Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tsunset]

Talks about a nuclear hit on Pickaxe are getting louder. Anthony Aguilar says a South Korean destroyer may be sent through the Strait as bait. Iran sinking the destroyer can then be used as cause to drop a nuke.

Nothing in your post makes sense

 

[Immortals]

 

[PK781]

This war isn't going to end soon because the five factions that rule america, 4 of them want to continue.
1. Zionist Jewish faction that dominates the media, finance, banking etc want to shell out America for Israeli interests.
2. Military Industrial complex needs forever wars to sell their weapons.
3. Neo conservative faction of various wealthy influential people want a firm victory and to continue bullying the world and strengthening US power
4. CIA deepstate faction which sets the agenda and directs American foreign policy and treat the world like never ending chessboard of pieces to take.
5. Rich tech billionaires who want to make money and digitally colonise the world with their technology and collect all the data. They are the only faction who isn't interested in continuing the war.

So it seems that regardless of who wins elections etc, the major factions in America want to continue fighting for the forseeable future even if they want different things.

this is american foreign policy and no change in presidency can change the course. Every president and regime will follow the dictation of the jewish zionist cabal

they will sink america if needed to achieve the goals which is already underway

 

[HAIDER]

But Netanyahu, gave reason to surrounding Muslim countries to form different type of defense alliance. Sooner or later they will come after him.

 

[PK781]

Let this sink in. Israeli media is brainstorming on how to get the US to start a land war with Iran despite massive problems, including a shortage of soldiers (up to 1.5 million soldiers would be needed!).

The solution?

Well, according to the Jerusalem Post, the US should offer to erase student loans and credit-card balances for the young Americans willing to join the slaughter.

The cost would, of course, be MASSIVE. And it would be paid for by ordinary American taxpayers. All because Israel wants more war…

true, whatever israel wants, the american military/CIA will do as ordered.
Their own M.I.C. would love the orders, and the money (jerbs for white americans)

 

[hasssanali8998]

imma be honest iran is loosing because they wont act

 

[PK781]

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all they had to do was attack the zionist entity, but they don't wanna do that.
So this is the result

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

But Netanyahu, gave reason to surrounding Muslim countries to form different type of defense alliance. Sooner or later they will come after him.

Arabs attacking Israel? Good Joke.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Ali_Baba]

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To be fair - IRGC now needs to stop firing on USN ships like that. It serves no purpose. Just look at the damage on those tankers. Was it a sensible exchange rate for the IRGC ?????

It is very obvious by now that IRGC weapons simply cannot hit a USN, let alone do anything worse and the exchange ratio of having misses like they are having, in return having your oil tankers damaged like this make no more sense tactically or strategically at all.

The "not wanting" to hit a USN is absolute nonsense. If they really wanted to hit, but not cause mass casualties, then why not replace the warhead itself with concreate or some other inert material?? That would deliver a better message if messaging is all the IRGC want to do. As for references to Yemen, not even Yemen could get close to actually hitting a USN.

Until IRGC can develop / fix issue with their anti-ship and ballistic missiles inability to score a hit, they should go back to the drawing board and redevelop their platforms first on war time footing and not waste their time, the lives of the ballistic missile/antiship missile operators on dead end missions like this..

As of now, IRGC's anti-naval capability against the USN is basically redundant, lets not kid ourselves here.

 

[Flotilla]

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Try to read a bit before answering.
US hit Iranian oilers because iranians try to hit... A CARRIER. So that means that Irán is escalating slowly.

 

[Flotilla]

To be fair - IRGC now needs to stop firing on USN ships like that. It serves no purpose. Just look at the damage on those tankers. Was it a sensible exchange rate for the IRGC ?????

It is very obvious by now that the IRGC cannot hit a USN, let alone do anything worse and the exchange ratio of having misses like they are having, in return having your oil tankers damaged like this make no more sense tactically at all.

The "not wanting" to hit a USN is absolute nonense. Not even Yemen could get close to actually hitting a USN.

Until IRGC can develop / fix issue with their anti-ship and ballistic missiles inability to score a hit, they should go back to the drawing board and redevelop their platforms first on war time footing.

As of now, IRGC's anti-naval capability against the USN is basically redundant, lets not kid ourselves here.

If IRGC wanted to hit a USN ship probably they would.
They just launch some missiles against them. But a saturation attack will deffinitively hit with them.
Remember a DDG just carry some ESSM missiles and when finished those or just diminish their number, the probabilities of hitting them exponentially increase.
Just launch 3 missiles daily until they exhaust their ESSM in their VLS...

 

[Ali_Baba]

If IRGC wanted to hit a USN ship probably they would.

I honestly don't think they can. Period. Yemen could not, and they really really really tried. The systems are technically not good enough.

But, the real question is, why even bother firing missiles if you do not intending on hitting, and in return getting damage to your own tanker fleet like this ?

 

[Immortals]

I honestly don't think they can. Period. Yemen could not, and they really really really tried. The systems are technically not good enough.

But, the real question is, why even bother firing missiles if you do not intending on hitting, and in return getting damage to your own tanker fleet like this ?

I think they could. If they couldn’t then US navy ships would be in SoH sailing back and forth.

The issue is what would be the benefit? Creating a mass casualty naval event would not lead to an agreement. It would not lead to closure of SoH. It has many unknowns and Iran is afraid of escalation.

Thus if you are afraid of escalation of military casualties, you must go with economic escalation.

There are 10-15 ships doing STS transfers off the coast of UAE/Oman, how come Iran hasn’t attacked these vulnerable and defenseless ships? Why not attack the storage tanks that hold the fuel that is boarded on to the tankers? There is the UAE pipeline that is ferrying 2MBPD sitting out in the open and vulnerable. Why hasn’t that been attacked?

There are plenty of non military targets that can increase Iranian leverage, but it chooses not to go after them. The fact of matter is Iran is back in ‘strategic patience’ mode. While they may occasionally lash out with some symbolic attacks, do some military damage here or there, it is quite clear that Mojtaba is not a military leader or an aggressive fighter. He is following his father’s disastrous foreign policy.