Can the Turkish Navy defend against the BrahMos anti-ship missile ?

[MMM-E]

The Greek media has been making a strong case for acquiring the ground based BrahMos anti-ship missile to bolster the country’s naval power in the entire geographical range between the Aegean and Crete


They estimate that a single BrahMos missile will cost around $3.5 million

Range : 290 km ...... ( export variant )
Max Speed : mach 3

The Shore-Based BRAHMOS Anti-Ship Missile (SBASM)




Turkish Navy to counter anti-ship Missiles

4 GABYA class Frigates
armed with 36 SM-1MR and 32 ESSM SAMs



4 MEKO-200TN Frigates
armed with 32-64 ESSM SAMs



RIM-162 Evolved SeaSparrow Missile (ESSM)

Range : 50+ km
Speed : Mach 4+

ESSM is designed to counter supersonic maneuvering anti-ship missiles like BRAHMOS

116 ESSM Block1... ( The first batch of RIM-162 ESSM block-1 was delivered to the Turkish Navy in 2008 )
145 ESSM Block2 ..( The first batch of RIM-162 ESSM block-2 was delivered to the Turkish Navy in 2019 )





8 ISTIF class Frigates to be armed with 64 x HISAR-D SAMs



HISAR-D Air Defense System to intercept even supersonic Missiles
Range : 40+ km
Speed : Mach 3.5

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Thanks to Turkish MIDLAS VLS with quad pack capability



UAV based Air Defense Concept

Also In a conflict
10 AKINCI UCAVs can stay in the air for 24 hours to protect Turkish Navy Warships against anti-ship Missiles

Warship Radar can not detect sea skimming anti-ship Missiles from long distance ... because for the Radar Horizon
but UAV based AESA Radar can detect BRAHMOS Missile from long distance


10 AKINCI UCAVs can carry 60 GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles with range of 100+ km to intercept anti-ship missiles even in sea skimming mode

AKINCI UCAV will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles





Quad pack ESSM can fire 2 missiles at a time to ensure 100% strike rate as compare to 1 BRAHMOS Missile

Quad pack HISAR-D can fire 2 missiles at a time to ensure 100% strike rate as compare to 1 BRAHMOS Missile

so Turkish Frigates are capable of handling 16 BRAHMOS missiles at a time.

BRAHMOS Missile has No any special except Indian Dream
Ukraine intercepted even New Russian ZIRCON hypersonic Cruise Missile
Russian hypersonic cruise missile, the 3M22 Zircon, intercepted by US-made missile defense systems over Kyiv, on March 25.

https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-uncovers-secrets-of-russias-new-hypersonic-missile/

They estimate that a single BrahMos missile will cost around $3.5 million
so Greece can not use expensive Missiles for swarm attack

on the other hand Turkish Economy is bigger than Greece+Egypt-İran combined
and Tukiye produce its own Missiles to use for swarm attack

Only a day and more Hellenic Navy ...
Thanks to Turkish Defense Industy ATMACA , SOM , CAKIR , KUZGUN , TOLUN-IIR , MAM-T-IIR , IHA-230 , KGK-SIHA-82 , KEMANKES , SIMSEK , SUPER SIMSEK

Also 500+ HARPOON , SLAM-ER and HARM Missiles

 

[hyperman]

Eurasiantimes. lol bro I've nver come across a more BS site than eurasniantimes. Its some Indian guy jerking himself off to fake news, in an inflated sense of self importance.

Greece is not going to Acquire the Brahmos missile for one simple fact, Russia which owns 49.5% of the Brahmos corporation, and hold the intellectural property for the P-800 which the Brahmos is based on, and provides much of the subcomponents will never allow it, after the stance of the Greek govt during the Ukraine war, where they sent previously supplied Russian weapons to Ukraine, to kill Russian servicemen.

Greece is more likely to acquire French weaponry, or the FC/ASW missile under development thats supposed to be ready by 2028.

 

[Pingle]

Well I don't know much about future weapons of Turkiye but if war is fought tomorrow then no hell big no..... there's no counter available with Turkish navy to defeat Brahmos..... sorry nothing can counter Brahmos today or near future...... once Turkiye starts entering newer technologies things may change but by then Brahmos will too be in its newer lethal avatar......

 

[hussain0216]

Well I don't know much about future weapons of Turkiye but if war is fought tomorrow then no hell big no..... there's no counter available with Turkish navy to defeat Brahmos..... sorry nothing can counter Brahmos today or near future...... once Turkiye starts entering newer technologies things may change but by then Brahmos will too be in its newer lethal avatar......

It's just a Russian missile, even the Russians don't use the Oniks that much

 

[Pingle]

It's just a Russian missile, even the Russians don't use the Oniks that much

It was derived from onix but now in India Brahmos is evolved so much that so many nations want to buy this beast...... Russians have other longer range hypersonic options like kinzhal, zircon etc..... now wait for hypersonic Brahmos to come out.....

 

[DDG-80]

Russians have other longer range hypersonic options like kinzhal, zircon etc.....

Kinzhal is a air launched ballistic missile similar to our rudram 2/3

 

[hyperman]

Well I don't know much about future weapons of Turkiye but if war is fought tomorrow then no hell big no..... there's no counter available with Turkish navy to defeat Brahmos..... sorry nothing can counter Brahmos today or near future...... once Turkiye starts entering newer technologies things may change but by then Brahmos will too be in its newer lethal avatar......

Buddy its just a glorified P-800/Bastion P. We have seen it being used in Ukraine by Russia(the ones who provide India with the subcomponents and license to locally produce it as "Brahmos") Its not some wunderwaffe thats somehow "unstoppable", The Ukrainians have been able to shoot many of the missiles down.

 

[r3alist]

Eurasiantimes. lol bro I've nver come across a more BS site than eurasniantimes. Its some Indian guy jerking himself off to fake news.

Greece is not going to Acquire the Brahmos missile for one simple fact, Russia which owns 49.5% of the Brahmos corporation, and hold the intellectural property for the P-800 which the Brahmos is based on, and provides much of the subcomponents will never allow it, after the stance of the Greek govt during the Ukraine war, where they sent previously supplied Russian weapons to Ukraine, to kill Russian servicemen.

Greece is more likely to acquire French weaponry, or the FC/ASW missile under development thats supposed to be ready by 2028.

Such a rational response, pity, deprived of reading people's imagination go into warp drive

 

[hyperman]

but now in India Brahmos is evolved so much

The Ramjet engine and the seeker is still being supplied by Russia on production variants. India only recently managed to replace the booster with an indigenous version, before that, it was also being supplied by Russia.

 

[DDG-80]

The Ramjet engine and the seeker is still being supplied by Russia on production variants. India only recently managed to replace the booster with an indigenous version, before that, it was also being supplied by Russia.

BrahMos: Greek Experts Pitch Indo-Russian Supersonic Cruise Missile To Checkmate S-400 Armed Turkey

Recently, the voices in Greek media have gotten stronger to procure a “truly strategic weapon from India” – the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile – to counter Turkey’s nefarious designs in the Aegean Sea and the Sea of Crete. Prime Minister Modi’s visit to Greece was the first by an Indian...

defencepk.com

 

[hussain0216]

1- The U.S is the world's current super power and the only state that can truly project significant power anywhere in the world

2- Then we have Russia and China in the second tier

3- we have around 20 or so countries, each with their own strengths and weaknesses, they have limited power projection, but have the ability to resist attack from most world powers including the U.S or atleast make any attack very very costly

4- everyone else



Both Turkey and India are in the Third tier, significant military powers with limited ability to project power out of their local area, Turkey would decimate any Indian presence in the local area

It's also questionable whether Greece a member of NATO would need to slum down and purchase Indian missiles based on a Russians missile where Russia still has a significant interest in, if only financial





I think Turkey, Arabs, Indonesians etc etc are all understanding what Pakistan has been saying about Indians, the rabid hindutva threat is real

Turkey has made great advances in it's military and to confront these common enemies it's vital countries like Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, Turkic/Arab world, Indonesia etc work together to make weapons and help weapons development

 

[hussain0216]

It was derived from onix but now in India Brahmos is evolved so much that so many nations want to buy this beast...... Russians have other longer range hypersonic options like kinzhal, zircon etc..... now wait for hypersonic Brahmos to come out.....

Who???? Youve allegedly sold it to one country

 

[hyperman]

BrahMos: Greek Experts Pitch Indo-Russian Supersonic Cruise Missile To Checkmate S-400 Armed Turkey

Recently, the voices in Greek media have gotten stronger to procure a “truly strategic weapon from India” – the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile – to counter Turkey’s nefarious designs in the Aegean Sea and the Sea of Crete. Prime Minister Modi’s visit to Greece was the first by an Indian...

defencepk.com

Yes, I know, there is a seeker in testing, note how I said "production variants". I'm aware that there have been tests of a indigenous seeker in development, but its not in production.

 

[Pingle]

Buddy its just a glorified P-800/Bastion P. We have seen it being used in Ukraine by Russia(the ones who provide India with the subcomponents and license to locally produce it a "Brahmos") Its not some wunderwaffe that somehow "unstoppable", The Ukrainians have been able to shoot many of the missiles down.

Ukraine is also survived in a war because of USA weapons and intel support otherwise in the first wave of attack itself Russia ran over huge chunk of Ukraine..... just because Ukraine with American support can do it doesn't apply to Turkey against Greece...... Greece is equally or better armed and Turkey isn't USA..... Brahmos in the hands of Greece especially if they are extended range of 900 kms then Greece too will be able to take out your fighters on the bases itself before they are airborne..... Greece navy will start eating up Turkish navy in no time.....

I mean your drones can take out enemy bases in no time

Your atmaca missiles can finish entire enemy navy

Even kamikaze drones can attack enemy and GAME OVER......

But when it comes to other nations weapons its an old technology based on this or that.....

 

[hyperman]

1- The U.S is the world's current super power and the only state that can truly project significant power anywhere in the world

2- Then we have Russia and China in the second tier

3- we have around 20 or so countries, each with their own strengths and weaknesses, they have limited power projection, but have the ability to resist attack from most world powers including the U.S or atleast make any attack very very costly

4- everyone else



Both Turkey and India are in the Third tier, significant military powers with limited ability to project power out of their local area, Turkey would decimate any Indian presence in the local area

It's also questionable whether Greece a member of NATO would need to slum down and purchase Indian missiles based on a Russians missile where Russia still has a significant interest in, if only financial





I think Turkey, Arabs, Indonesians etc etc are all understanding what Pakistan has been saying about Indians, the rabid hindutva threat is real

Turkey has made great advances in it's military and to confront these common enemies it's vital countries like Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, Turkic/Arab world, Indonesia etc work together to make weapons and help weapons development

Bro, these guys have an amazing PR department. I swear every little tiny vaporware project got its own wikipedia entry, I'm actually kind of jealous as there are a bunch of Turkish projects that exist and are even in production and are significant but no wikipedia entry, so many people don't even know such a product exists. I wish more Turks spoke english and edited wikipedia. lol the Indians are unmatched some of the pages I read the entry was created in like 2010 and still no product, but the wiki entry for the vaporware product is there and in detail.