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China Uses MBT-3000 VT4 Tanks To Entice US Ally In South America Following JF-17 Fighter Jet Setback

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China's Charm Offensive in South America: MBT-3000s After JF-17 Setback
The geopolitical landscape of South America is witnessing a fascinating dance between the established dominance of the United States and the rising influence of China. This dynamic was recently on display in the contrasting outcomes of China's attempts to sell two key military platforms: the JF-17 fighter jet and the MBT-3000 main battle tank (MBT).

JF-17: So Close, Yet So Far

China's hopes for a major breakthrough in Latin America received a setback when Argentina, a historically close US ally, ultimately opted for US-made F-16 fighter jets instead of the Chinese-built JF-17. The Argentine Air Force was initially attracted to the JF-17's affordability and perceived ease of maintenance. However, the US countered with a compelling offer of its own: surplus F-16s originally intended for Ukraine, equipped with advanced weaponry like AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-9 air-to-air missiles. This, coupled with concerns about potential compatibility issues with integrating the JF-17 into Argentina's existing defense infrastructure, ultimately swayed the decision in favor of the American aircraft.

Enter the MBT-3000: A Different Ball Game?

Undeterred by the JF-17 setback, China has set its sights on another lucrative South American market: Colombia. The Colombian military is currently looking to modernize its tank fleet, and the MBT-3000 VT4, China's most advanced MBT, has emerged as a potential contender. The VT4 boasts impressive firepower, mobility, and protection, making it a tempting option for Colombia, which faces ongoing security challenges from armed groups and drug cartels.

Colombia's Balancing Act: Geopolitics and Pragmatism

Colombia's decision on the MBT contract holds significant geopolitical implications. As one of the US's most steadfast allies in the region, a Colombian procurement of Chinese tanks would represent a notable shift in its traditional arms acquisition patterns. However, Colombia, like many other countries, is increasingly looking beyond traditional alliances to diversify its strategic partnerships and secure the best deals for its military needs.

Factors Influencing Colombia's Decision

Several factors will likely influence Colombia's ultimate decision on the MBT contract:

  • Cost and Technology: The VT4 comes at a competitive price point compared to Western MBTs. Additionally, China offers attractive financing packages and technology transfer agreements, which could be appealing to Colombia.
  • Geopolitical Considerations: The US may exert pressure on Colombia to choose American or European tanks, but Colombia may prioritize its own strategic interests and budgetary constraints over external pressure.
  • Interoperability and Maintenance: Colombia's existing military equipment is largely of Western origin. Integrating Chinese tanks could raise concerns about compatibility and long-term maintenance costs.
  • Beyond the Battlefield: The Broader Implications

China's efforts to sell the MBT-3000 in South America are part of a broader strategy to expand its economic and political influence in the region. Beijing has been steadily increasing its investments in Latin America, forging closer trade ties and providing infrastructure loans to cash-strapped governments. While the US remains the dominant player in the region, China's growing presence is undeniable, and its foray into the military market is a sign of its ambitions.

The MBT-3000 deal, if it materializes, would be a significant milestone for China's arms exports and a testament to its growing military prowess. It would also mark a further erosion of US dominance in a region it has long considered its backyard. However, the Colombian government faces a complex decision, and the outcome remains uncertain. The next few months will be crucial in determining whether the MBT-3000 follows the JF-17's path to rejection or paves the way for a deeper Chinese footprint in South America's military landscape.China's Charm Offensive in South America: A Tango of Tanks and Jets
The tango between the dragon and the eagle is playing out on a new stage: South America. While the United States has traditionally held sway in the region, China's recent ventures into selling military hardware suggest a shift in the tectonic plates of geopolitical influence. Let's delve deeper into the contrasting fortunes of China's JF-17 fighter jet and MBT-3000 tank in this fascinating dance of diplomacy and defense.

The JF-17's Missed Tango:​


Argentina, a historical US ally, initially seemed poised to waltz with the JF-17. Its affordability and perceived ease of maintenance were undeniable allurements. However, the US countered with a seductive step of its own: surplus F-16s meant for Ukraine, adorned with advanced weaponry like AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-9 air-to-air missiles. This, coupled with concerns about integrating the JF-17 into Argentina's existing defense infrastructure, proved too irresistible, leaving the JF-17 on the sidelines, a wistful reminder of how geopolitical calculations can trump affordability in the tango of arms deals.

The MBT-3000's Potential Foxtrot:


Undeterred by the JF-17's missed step, China is now eyeing Colombia, a country known for its intricate salsa of security challenges. The Colombian military's desire to modernize its tank fleet presents an opening for the MBT-3000 VT4, China's most advanced MBT. Its firepower, mobility, and protection offer a compelling rhythm for Colombia's quest for enhanced security. This potential foxtrot with the MBT-3000, however, comes with a complex choreography of considerations.

Colombia's Balancing Act: Between Salsa and Cha Cha Cha


As Colombia deliberates on the MBT contract, it faces a diplomatic cha cha cha. Choosing the VT4 would mark a significant departure from its traditional arms acquisition patterns, potentially irking its long-standing partner, the US. Yet, Colombia, like many others, is looking beyond traditional alliances, seeking the best deals for its military needs. Cost becomes a critical step in this dance, where the VT4's competitive price and attractive financing packages potentially hold Colombia's attention.

Technology and Interoperability: The Two-Step Challenge


While cost may be the initial beat, technology and interoperability become crucial two-steps in Colombia's dance with the MBT-3000. Integrating Chinese tanks into a largely Western-equipped military raises concerns about compatibility and long-term maintenance costs. The US may also offer waltz lessons in the form of pressure to choose American or European tanks, adding another layer of complexity to Colombia's dance routine.

Beyond the Battlefield: The Tango's Wider Stage


China's efforts in South America's military market are part of a larger tango, one where it seeks to expand its economic and political influence. Beijing's increased investments, trade ties, and infrastructure loans are instrumental in this broader performance. While the US remains the dominant player, China's moves cannot be ignored. The MBT-3000 deal, if it materializes, would be a significant pirouette for China's arms exports, showcasing its growing military prowess and marking a further dip in US dominance.

The Verdict: Will it be a Seductive Salsa or a Tango of Tension?


The Colombian government faces a complex decision, a quickstep between economic advantage and geopolitical considerations. The next few months will be crucial in determining whether the MBT-3000 finds its place in Colombia's military arsenal, or ends up relegated to the sidelines, like the JF-17 in Argentina. This tango between China and the US, played out on the South American stage, promises to be one with intricate steps, unexpected turns, and ultimately, a profound impact on the region's future security landscape.
 
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Also, the decision for Argentina's fighter program still hasn't been made, and is likely going to be indefinitely postponed as Argentina goes through extreme austerity to avoid hyper inflation and restart its economy.

The new Argentine leader seems to be a bit of a sociopath, with really retarded ideas about how to run an economy (he's an anarcho-capitalist).
 
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Also, the decision for Argentina's fighter program still hasn't been made, and is likely going to be indefinitely postponed as Argentina goes through extreme austerity to avoid hyper inflation and restart its economy.

The new Argentine leader seems to be a bit of a sociopath, with really retarded ideas about how to run an economy (he's an anarcho-capitalist).
Ok sir
 
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when Argentina, a historically close US ally,

LOL! Not since the 1982 Falklands War. They've been on the military blacklist ever since.

The VT4 boasts impressive firepower, mobility, and protection, making it a tempting option for Colombia, which faces ongoing security challenges from armed groups and drug cartels.

Let's hope things are not so bad that they are actually thinking of using tanks against their own populace. The US is definitely not going to sell them tanks if this is one of the stated main reasons. Actually I'm not even sure we have sold any modern tanks to South America just for reasons like this.
 
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Also, the decision for Argentina's fighter program still hasn't been made, and is likely going to be indefinitely postponed as Argentina goes through extreme austerity to avoid hyper inflation and restart its economy.

The new Argentine leader seems to be a bit of a sociopath, with really retarded ideas about how to run an economy (he's an anarcho-capitalist).
He is batsh*t insane. Also, someone should tell this clown that being an anarcho-capitalist is oxymoronic.
 
Why post these garbage stuffs? Every time whenever someone posts about Argentina, it boggles my mind do they ever think "how will Argentina pay for these stuff" ?

Do Argentina have money to pay for even food or oil or anything at all? DO you not see their economic situation? Seriously a little introspection is needed for posting such articles. I have read 1000's of posts of Argentina buying JF17 to F16 or Tejas and whatever else. Absolutely pointless waste of server space.
 
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Chinese tank turret doesn't look like a modern one.... see the match box type turret and look at the other modern turrets like Merkava, M1, T90, Leopard..... it looks very outdated compared to these tanks...... like Chinese fighter jets good luck to China this time too to win a tank contract with Argentina..... even Argentina own TAM tank looks better.....
 
Why post these garbage stuffs? Every time whenever someone posts about Argentina, it boggles my mind do they ever think "how will Argentina pay for these stuff" ?

Do Argentina have money to pay for even food or oil or anything at all? DO you not see their economic situation? Seriously a little introspection is needed for posting such articles. I have read 1000's of posts of Argentina buying JF17 to F16 or Tejas and whatever else. Absolutely pointless waste of server space.
That is EXACTLY why Argentina looks to Chinese weapons.

Argentina have perfect climate and pastures for grazing cattle, very abundant in mineral resources, and a major exporter of Oil and Natural Gas. They just don't have Money, or more specifically, currency.

For combined factors of geopolitics and poor government management, even when Argentina have an abundance of natural resources that would make most countries green with envy, their assets are valued very very unfavorably in the USD dominated world market. Argentinians don't want for food or oil, but they want for basically everything else.

China don't need green paper, China want food, minerals, and fuel, and it can provide manufactured products (aka "everything else"), and that includes weapons like VT-4/Al-Haider
 
Chinese tank turret doesn't look like a modern one.... see the match box type turret and look at the other modern turrets like Merkava, M1, T90, Leopard..... it looks very outdated compared to these tanks...... like Chinese fighter jets good luck to China this time too to win a tank contract with Argentina..... even Argentina own TAM tank looks better.....
Exactly. Eyeballs mark 1 is the perfect instrument to evaluate the effectiveness of tank armour layout...

Sarcasm aside, the turret design of modern Chinese tanks are highly similar to either Russian or Ukrainian tanks actually - high density base NERA (high KE protection but poor against Chemical) + ERA array, which in my opinion is better than NATO style of large chunks of bare low density NERA.
 
Exactly. Eyeballs mark 1 is the perfect instrument to evaluate the effectiveness of tank armour layout...

Sarcasm aside, the turret design of modern Chinese tanks are highly similar to either Russian or Ukrainian tanks actually - high density base NERA (high KE protection but poor against Chemical) + ERA array, which in my opinion is better than NATO style of large chunks of bare low density NERA.
I know actually just by looks we can't judge the effectiveness of a system..... maybe I'm too much impressed with Merkava turret these days after looking so many Gaza related news on TV channels...... doesn't that turret and overall Merkava looks most advanced to you?
 
I know actually just by looks we can't judge the effectiveness of a system..... maybe I'm too much impressed with Merkava turret these days after looking so many Gaza related news on TV channels...... doesn't that turret and overall Merkava looks most advanced to you?
How so? Effectiveness aside, Merkava's turret layout is actually very conservative if you look past its alien shape.

Because Israel never acquired the technology to develop high performance innert composite material, but still have very strict requirement in all round HEAT protection, they kinda went the direction of Japanese type 10 combined with T-84BM Oplot, that is to massively shrink the base turret profile, and compile large sections of NxRA
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This is Merkava mk IV's turret without the NXRA module. Note it doesn't have composite modules of its own.

There are valid reasons to believe that it has good resistance against both Kinetic and Chemical, as Israel have demonstrated via ballistics tests that the NXRA is very competent in reducing the penetration of both darts like 3BM42 and chemical, but in actual combat their survivability have repeatedly been challenged...B371AFFB149019979128D712696F40F4.jpg
This is the front of a Merkava mk.III, penetrated at the thickest part of its turret front, allegedly by a HJ-8/Baktar-Shikan ATGM.

Having a tiny base turret, while it means it can enjoy more thorough add-on armour dimension, also means it cannot fit in a big ammo ready rack, which means a large hull secondary rack have to supplement instead on top of battlefield sustainability issues. Merkava always featured very large hull secondary racks protected only with wet ammo racks (late ww2 level), which is quite a risk.
 
Beautiful post and thanks for such a detailed response......
 

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