Gaza-Israel Conflict | 2023-2024

The oppression and apartheid, is a result of the occupation and apartheid that Israel has forced upon millions of Palestinians

Israel controls all the air space space space and borders of Palestine

Their are more then 7 million Arabs under Israeli occupation or control, that's more then the Jews in the region and it's only growing as Palestinian population increases



That demographic advantage Palestinians have is the biggest weapon against Israel

Keeping that much people living under occupation is not sustainable


That's why stopping good relations with the Arab and Muslim world is essential for the future


The Jews are detested at the moment and we need to take advantage of that


By openly and brazenly committing genocide there is absolutely no chance that the Palestinians and Arab neighbours(people and not the puppet regimes which will anyhow be kicked out and/or reform as balance of power changes over next 10-15 years in the world) will now ever accept these foreign interlopers to the land and region.

Those Jews that have family history to the land at the time of the Ottomans will be allowed to stay and the rest kicked out. All that came in from the British mandate period have no legitimate right to live in Palestine.
 
The operations carried out by the Palestinian resistance groups on Thursday, January 4, are as follows:

Al-Qassam Brigades' operations:


  • Destroyed three Merkava tanks, west of Al-Maghazi in central Gaza and the other north of Khan Yunis city.
  • Shelled Israeli military forces and their vehicles in Khan Yunis city with mortars.
  • Detonated a powerful explosive device among an Israeli infantry force inside a building, leading to casualties, north of Al-Nuseirat camp in central Gaza.
  • Detonated an anti-personnel explosive device within a fortified Israeli force in the Al-Maghraqa area in central Gaza.
  • Targeted an Israeli military gathering in Bureij camp with heavy-caliber mortars.
  • Destroyed two Merkava tanks with 'Al-Yassin-105' shells in Al-Mahatta and Al-Katiba areas in Khan Yunis city, southern Gaza.
  • Shelled Israeli regime forces in Al-Maghraqa north of Al-Nuseirat camp with mortars.
  • Pounded an Israeli military gathering in Khan Yunis city, southern Gaza, with mortars.
  • Targeted an Israeli military gathering and a military vehicle in the Tuffah neighborhood in Gaza City with an RPG, causing casualties.
  • Targeted an Israeli military force in the Tuffah neighborhood in Gaza City with mortars.
Al-Quds Brigades' operations:

  • Destroyed two Israeli military vehicles with RPGs, east of Al-Bureij camp, in central Gaza.
  • In a joint operation with Al-Qassam Brigades, targeted a gathering of Israeli regime forces in the Al-Tuffah neighborhood in Gaza City with mortars.
  • Engaged in clashes with Israeli military forces in the central Khan Yunis city.
Palestinian Mujahideen Brigades' operations:

  • Targeted a fortified Israeli military force in the Al-Shati area, west of Gaza City, with an anti-personnel explosive device.
  • Shelled Israeli soldiers and their military vehicles with short-range rocket barrages in central Gaza City.
Martyr Omar Al-Qassem Brigades' operations:

  • Engaged in clashes with Israeli regime forces, east of Al-Bureij and Al-Maghazi camps, and detonated an explosive device southeast of Al-Bureij camp on Israeli military vehicles, causing deaths and injuries
  • Targeted Israeli military vehicles in the Mahata area in central Khan Younis with RPGs, and confirmed a direct hit on one of the vehicles, causing casualties.
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades' operations:

  • Targeted an Israeli military vehicle with an RPG, in the east of the Al-Bureij neighborhood.
  • Engaged in clashes with Israeli forces in central Khan Younis city, using machine guns and RPGs.
Al-Nasser Salah Al-Din Brigades' operations:

  • Shelled a gathering of Israeli occupation forces and their vehicles in Khan Younis city with four heavy-caliber mortars.
 
This is absolutely not correct. Muslim invaders were looting and destroying their opponents 100%. Either they killed their men, or enslaved them. They raped all their women and girls. They didn't even spare small children and enslaved them too although they had never any role in any wars.


Yes.
You have to acknowledge that due to the civilized world, Israel didn't kill even 1% of the Palestinian civilian population.
But this same civilized world will not let Palestinian civilians or Hamas or extremist Muslims seize the right of Israel to exist today and to kill Israeli civilians in the name of their being invaders.
Really?
Which Muslim armies or invaders invaded Maldives, Indonesia, Malaysia, Ghana, west Africa, China etc? ( hint - none )

Who converted the mongol Ilkhanate and the Turks to Islam? ( The mongols and turks defeated Muslim armies )

So please stop spreading BS propoganda here.
 
Same with arabs in Palestine, they used to be newcomers then settled there in Palestine during the Rashidun Chalipate and Ottoman empire.
Same like turks, the ancestors of the Turks originated from Central Asia, particularly the region known as the Altai Mountains, which spans present-day Mongolia, China, Russia, and Kazakhstan.
We all came from Summeria and spread all over the world as new comers then became settlers.
Same like Australian and American.
Practically all nations except summerian/iraqe used to be newcomers/new settlers.

You are right.
And there are no 'original inhabitants' anywhere. We are all migrants everywhere except, if you believe in the Rift Valley hypothesis, somewhere from eastern Africa human spread.

But we can't do anything about those migrations and displacements, can we? But in case of Palestinians, they number in many millions and are living either in the land they have been living for hundreds or thousands of years--even if occupied by Israel--or living very close to that land as refugees. One can't wish them away! Just as one shouldn't wish away the Jews living in that land.

But reading your and posts similar to your's, it is perfectly alright to either force the remaining Palestinians out of the Occupied Territories or force them to be subjugated to the Jewish Supremacists in Israel. But, unlike in the historic migrations and displacements, something CAN and SHOULD and WILL be done about that!!
 
Same with arabs in Palestine, they used to be newcomers then settled there in Palestine during the Rashidun Chalipate and Ottoman empire.

Same like turks, the ancestors of the Turks originated from Central Asia, particularly the region known as the Altai Mountains, which spans present-day Mongolia, China, Russia, and Kazakhstan.
We all came from Summeria and spread all over the world as new comers then became settlers.

Same like Australian and American.

Practically all nations except summerian/iraqe used to be newcomers/new settlers.

The Israelis are not native to this land. The Palestinians are natives of this land. All reasonable human beings don't dispute this fact.
 
This is absolutely not correct. Muslim invaders were looting and destroying their opponents 100%. Either they killed their men, or enslaved them. They raped all their women and girls. They didn't even spare small children and enslaved them too although they had never any role in any wars.


Yes.
You have to acknowledge that due to the civilized world, Israel didn't kill even 1% of the Palestinian civilian population.
But this same civilized world will not let Palestinian civilians or Hamas or extremist Muslims seize the right of Israel to exist today and to kill Israeli civilians in the name of their being invaders.

Did you learn this in your Christian Zionist bible?
 
You are right.
And there are no 'original inhabitants' anywhere. We are all migrants everywhere except, if you believe in the Rift Valley hypothesis, somewhere from eastern Africa human spread.

But we can't do anything about those migrations and displacements, can we? But in case of Palestinians, they number in many millions and are living either in the land they have been living for hundreds or thousands of years--even if occupied by Israel--or living very close to that land as refugees. One can't wish them away! Just as one shouldn't wish away the Jews living in that land.

But reading your and posts similar to your's, it is perfectly alright to either force the remaining Palestinians out of the Occupied Territories or force them to be subjugated to the Jewish Supremacists in Israel. But, unlike in the historic migrations and displacements, something CAN and SHOULD and WILL be done about that!!


Zionists: “Palestinians are barbaric and medieval”

Also Zionists: “Ethnic clensing happened in the medieval, why is it so wrong today?”
 
Everyone's emotional state is being manipulated here by silly statements.

Perhaps for those of us with heart and conscious do not realise how we have been cumulatively affected by what we seen and are vulnerable to provocation.

IGNORE THE SUPPORTERS OF THE VIOLENCE.
 
Also Zionists: “Ethnic clensing happened in the medieval, why is it so wrong today?”

While Netanyahu used the horrible, genocidal Alamek example from the Bible, I have seen Israelis in last few weeks referring to the various displacements of populations around the Second World War to justify kicking out all Palestinians from Gaza--and then probably also from the West Bank.
 
Everyone's emotional state is being manipulated here by silly statements.

Perhaps for those of us with heart and conscious do not realise how we have been cumulatively affected by what we seen and are vulnerable to provocation.

IGNORE THE SUPPORTERS OF THE VIOLENCE.

@RescueRanger Sir, mah frand aks many kesschuns. :D


Are we to ignore all violence, or just some violence, depending on a preferred direction of said violence?
 
Are we to ignore all violence, or just some violence, depending on a preferred direction of said violence?


If I were to reply in your unique style I might say something highfalutin like "your lack of understanding is your problem", or "the ambiguity you create is not in my wording but in your interpretation".

However, I want to create a better forum and standard where possible so I will confirm all violence for sure, though obviously there is in this scenario an imbalance.
 
However, I want to create a better forum and standard where possible so I will confirm all violence for sure, though obviously there is in this scenario an imbalance.

Ah yes. An imbalance. Is there ever a requirement for war to be balanced? Doesn't every party to a conflict fight as best as it can, or must it restrict itself to what can be regarded by popular opinion what is balanced?

Just a simple question, nothing high falutin' at all.
 
Ah yes. An imbalance. Is there ever a requirement for war to be balanced? Doesn't every party to a conflict fight as best as it can, or must it restrict itself to what can be regarded by popular opinion what is balanced?

Just a simple question, nothing high falutin' at all.
I was merely stating a reality and an observation, sometimes there is not more to it than that.

If I were to indulge your questions discussion would quickly descend into a downward spiral of whataboutery.

The reality speaks for itself.
 
I was merely stating a reality and an observation, sometimes there is not more to it than that.

If I were to indulge your questions discussion would quickly descend into a downward spiral of whataboutery.

The reality speaks for itself.

So I guess the clear and simple answer is that there is no requirement for a "balanced" response by popular judgement, and that every party to a conflict has a duty to fight as best as it can with all available resources.

I am just stating a reality too. :D
 

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