Ali_Baba
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But can they keep him safe ?!? If they have lost their most heavily defended C&C - then this new bloke is on borrowed time.
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WhyWhy not ground invasion in Israel by Hez and all Iran Proxy around Israel?
It is already under scholar understanding that US/NATO was with Islam nations during cold war vs Communist power.
Even Indonesia (Muslim) killed many communists inside the country and invaded East Timor due to anti communist stand.
I am not into theology . Hopefully , you will forgive me for my lack of understanding ..... what's yajoj Majoj or gog and magog ? Would they be Chinese ?
It seems you guys don't know much about prophecies but still like write long compositions about it on a forum that too in a volatile time like this.
Let me give you a short chronological idea of the events :
The Black flags, an Islamic nation rooted in different sentiment than others pop up and challenges regional developments and the super powers of the world are unable to stop it from gaining strength and dictating (according to authentic Hadith). The nation is located around the direction of ancient khurasan. (Wink)
That nation then wages struggle because they were being restricted financially and in other ways by the superpowers. (They will be denied goods belonging to them according to the hadith, which sounds a lot like sanctions in the modern day) This nation is also the one that conquers Jerusalem and sets up the Mahdi's governance.
The mahdi comes after Israel is defeated by the Black Flag nation (the color of Marking sorrow or grief) which is the integral part of shia Islamic creed. Hate it as much as u want to or think whatever u like to. The Black Flag nation fights without the mahdi against Israel and defeats it and then waits for his coming to set up his governance in Jerusalem. That's what happens.
Then the mahdi comes and takes over and is supported by the Black Flag nations as well as all the others, sunni shia alike and is able to achieve extraordinary civil reform in a short amount of time. People believe in god again and wake up in a rejuvenated spirit holding hand in hand with each other.
By then the Muslims form a strong alliance with RUM (Rum in the time of the prophet was used to identify the state of eastern Christian Orthodoxy and it's king (Czar or Tsar), which in other words mean Russia. So Muslims led now by Mahdi and Russia form an alliance and launch a campaign against US-led NATO.
This is the third world world but not Armageddon or Malhama. Then the Muslims and Russians win the war and conquer Europe. America is nowhere mentioned after this event nd is most like to be absolutely destroyed in a pre emptive Russian nuclear strike (which makes sense because Russia has shorter nuclear reaction time and if America tries going preemptive Russia will still strike first). But after this joint victory when Muslim demand their fair share, the Russians and the subjugated Europeans betray them and attempt to drive the Muslims off of Europe and conduct a genocide of civilians likened to the holocaust and go after turkey. At that point the mahdi steps in asks the Russians to stop and say that they will be forced to intervene if Russia moves against any Muslim countries. At that point the two former allies gear up for fight. Both sides mobilise and conduct the most brutal and horrifying war in the history of the mankind with nuclear strikes on each other. But in the last phase of the conflict the Muslim relying on superior manpower manage to mobilise and resupply and crush the enemy. So that's Malhama al Kubra for you or Armageddon. The Dajjal comes after this Victory when the Muslims are about to get into the Christian land to settle and Inherit. Then they forget about all of this and focus solely on the Dajjal.
That's the whole of it.
There are some posts here that I find extremely interesting.
Xerxes22 has given us the Shia interpretation of Islamic prophecies.
--https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/hezbollah-israel-conflict-2024-lebanon-occupied-palestine-territories.13274/post-355349
r3alist posted Alexander Dugin's statement
--https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/hezbollah-israel-conflict-2024-lebanon-occupied-palestine-territories.13274/post-355365
All these events going on seem to make no sense unless we figure out what is motivating the various groups involved in this conflict. There are at least three levels:
1. Religious/nationalistic beliefs that drive people to act
2. Financial and secular motivations for power and resources
3. Military conflict to realize the above
This forum is all about military (level 3) but if we don't understand all levels we will not know what is going on. At the bottom all actors have their own version of conflicting religious beliefs (level 1).
1. Jewish beliefs about Mashiach (Messiah)
2. Evangelical Christian support Israel and believe that WW3 will trigger the coming of Jesus.
3. Regular Christian beliefs. In common with Muslims, they think the Jewish Messiah will be the Antichrist.
4. Sunni Muslims believe in one set of hadiths
5. Shia Muslims believe in a different set of hadiths with a slightly different chain of events.
The above have a lot of similarities (all predict a messiah) but they all conflict with each other. No wonder there's war. Each think they'll be the winners.
I'm glad that Xerxes22 posted the Shia version. It completely explains the behaviour of Iran. In fact, I was wondering why Iran is doing what it is doing, and now I understand, assuming that Xerxes22's post reflects Iranian beliefs of the coming of the Mahdi. In this version Jerusalem is liberated by Iran (black flags) before the arrival of the Mahdi, so they're fighting while the Sunnis sit and watch. The sequence of events in this interpretation is very different from the Sunni one.
In the major 6 Sunni hadith collections there is very little reference to the Mahdi, and more emphasis on the return of Jesus. The Mahdi will come first, then the Dajjal, then Jesus, then Armageddon and then the Caliphate in Jerusalem. Sunnis don't all agree with each other about the chain of events either. All they can agree with is that Jesus will come and spread Islam.
Alexander Dugin's statment is intersting becasue he's close to Putin and his views may be reflected in Russian policy. The Anglo-Zionists tried to assasinate him and ended up killing his daughter.
This is a myth. Dugin has never been close to Putin and his policies are not even echoed by the Russian political leadership.Alexander Dugin's statment is intersting becasue he's close to Putin and his views may be reflected in Russian policy. The Anglo-Zionists tried to assasinate him and ended up killing his daughter.
This is a myth. Dugin has never been close to Putin and his policies are not even echoed by the Russian political leadership.
For the record I am not advocating anything, I just say it's part of the considerationThere are some posts here that I find extremely interesting.
Xerxes22 has given us the Shia interpretation of Islamic prophecies.
--https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/hezbollah-israel-conflict-2024-lebanon-occupied-palestine-territories.13274/post-355349
r3alist posted Alexander Dugin's statement
--https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/hezbollah-israel-conflict-2024-lebanon-occupied-palestine-territories.13274/post-355365
All these events going on seem to make no sense unless we figure out what is motivating the various groups involved in this conflict. There are at least three levels:
1. Religious/nationalistic beliefs that drive people to act
2. Financial and secular motivations for power and resources
3. Military conflict to realize the above
This forum is all about military (level 3) but if we don't understand all levels we will not know what is going on. At the bottom all actors have their own version of conflicting religious beliefs (level 1).
1. Jewish beliefs about Mashiach (Messiah)
2. Evangelical Christian support Israel and believe that WW3 will trigger the coming of Jesus.
3. Regular Christian beliefs. In common with Muslims, they think the Jewish Messiah will be the Antichrist.
4. Sunni Muslims believe in one set of hadiths
5. Shia Muslims believe in a different set of hadiths with a slightly different chain of events.
The above have a lot of similarities (all predict a messiah) but they all conflict with each other. No wonder there's war. Each think they'll be the winners.
I'm glad that Xerxes22 posted the Shia version. It completely explains the behaviour of Iran. In fact, I was wondering why Iran is doing what it is doing, and now I understand, assuming that Xerxes22's post reflects Iranian beliefs of the coming of the Mahdi. In this version Jerusalem is liberated by Iran (black flags) before the arrival of the Mahdi, so they're fighting while the Sunnis sit and watch. The sequence of events in this interpretation is very different from the Sunni one.
In the major 6 Sunni hadith collections there is very little reference to the Mahdi, and more emphasis on the return of Jesus. The Mahdi will come first, then the Dajjal, then Jesus, then Armageddon and then the Caliphate in Jerusalem. Sunnis don't all agree with each other about the chain of events either. All they can agree with is that Jesus will come and spread Islam.
Alexander Dugin's statment is intersting becasue he's close to Putin and his views may be reflected in Russian policy. The Anglo-Zionists tried to assasinate him and ended up killing his daughter.
Why
These are not convectional armies, they dont have tanks, Jets, Anti air systems to protect them for Air strikes.
If its that easy why always see modren armies use air force to soften the enemies and afterwards push with air cover.
you spot a enemy group 100s to 1000s in number with no cover of any sort coming towards you on the road what you think will be first response.
Israel with hugh military why they didn't just invade Gaza or even Lebanon.
Most militias survive by gorilla warfare, if your enemy randomly starts killing civilians more people will hate them and join you. its a very simple strategy.