Discussion: Electronic devices based attack in Lebanon

[AjayGhatak]

They use pagers as security measure and nobody open the case of a device to see anything inside?

I am of the opinion that they can’t find any thing even if they look inside. The explosive was embedded in the battery most likely. Triggered by sustained drain.

 

[LeGenD]

No professional company will plant an explosive in consumer goods. One member was calling for invasion of Taiwan in this thread. It is always sensible to wait for things to become clear as earliest pointers are largely premature or incomplete before passing judgement. Agents of chaos also spread false information.

Taiwan is home to TSMC. Invasion of Taiwan will affect global computing supply chains and systems and might set the stage for world war. Be careful what you wish for.

That being said, this incident indicates a terrifying attack vector. There should be debate about rules of war or how to end war before it gets more ugly.

 

[KingQamaR]

Think about it,

1) Mossad knew that Iran/Hezbollah is going to order (or has ordered) pagers.

2) They quickly devised technology of implanting bombs in such a tiny device

3) They then either infiltrated the manufacturer (or may be replaced the actual shipment)

They pulled the entire operation with such finesse that Iranians had no clue whatsoever. Imagine, Iranian Ambassador himself using Hezbollah pager.

Hats off to Mossad, they are way ahead of CIA.

Really makes me wonder if someone well placed in Hezbollah was a double agent.
Arrange for the pagers to be purchased and distributed and then disappear to a third country with enough finances to live very comfortably for the rest of their life. It wasn't like they told their people to get pagers, they were given special pagers to use. Poor Iranian diplomat got one given to him too

 

[onlinpunit]

Everyone has already assume that it was done by israel.
1. What is the proof that it was done by israel. ?
2. Has israel claimed the responsibility of this attack ?
3. Is there any concrete evidence of israel agent / companies were involved in the tempering of pagers ?

 

[GatlingGun]

It's admirably such a meticulous planning, the amount of explosive was also put very carefully to avoid any collateral of the surrounding people.
Even Hezbulla leader made announcement to dispose all pagers in Lebenon, that means there are still normal pagers used by Civillian. Whichever miniscule collateral we have seen is non target kids or Doctor getting hold of Hezbulla pagers through someone who is Hezbulla member.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1836094065970233684

 

[KingQamaR]

Pagers can't work without a Paging Service Provider who programs the pagers into their database (installs them) and provides the communication towers (or perhaps a satellite link) to transmit messages. Pagers aren't just shipped from a manufacturer to a customer, they go to the Paging Service Provider who activates them and then sends them to the clients. At least that is how it was 23 years ago I believe. How the f k did they do this.

 

[Immortals]

Same old enemy must “wait” for revenge statement from Hezbollah

https://twitter.com/x/status/1836245508781687190

Silence in Tehran at their Ambassador being critically injured

https://twitter.com/x/status/1836234517444456561

 

[PakFactor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1836223416875016393

Well here is a major OpSec problem. Buying pagers from a US satellite country (Taiwan) was the first mistake.

Either Chinese or Russian or hell Iranian. ‘Pagers’ aren’t some elite tech.

Pakistan made a similar mistake and lost Sachin. The Pakistani military placed an order for mountain gear, and the Indians did with the same company. They caught wind of it and launched their OP.

 

[PakFactor]

No professional company will plant an explosive in consumer goods. One member was calling for invasion of Taiwan in this thread. It is always sensible to wait for things to become clear as earliest pointers are largely premature or incomplete before passing judgement. Agents of chaos also spread false information.

Taiwan is home to TSMC. Invasion of Taiwan will affect global computing supply chains and systems and might set the stage for world war. Be careful what you wish for.

That being said, this incident indicates a terrifying attack vector. There should be debate about rules of war or how to end war before it gets more ugly.

I will respectfully disagree with making rules as history has repeatedly shown that the powerful will bend the rules, create loopholes in their favor, and force the lesser powers to comply. After the Israel-Palestinean conflict, all options and tactics the Israelis have employed and continue or develop to employ must be on the table, especially for Pakistan, in case of conflict with India or any other nation, be it civilian, military, or dual-use facilities and structure. If an Indian officer is attending an event and he's high value, the option must be readily available to bomb that venue and take him or her out.

Thus, we must not limit ourselves, as the justification and acceptance are right before us, and we have plausible assertions for them.

 

[AjayGhatak]

Everyone has already assume that it was done by israel.
1. What is the proof that it was done by israel. ?
2. Has israel claimed the responsibility of this attack ?
3. Is there any concrete evidence of israel agent / companies were involved in the tempering of pagers ?

Who else has the capability and motive to do this?

 

[nahtanbob]

One member was calling for invasion of Taiwan in this thread.

Bring it on. It is easiest way to get into a shooting war with America. It is time we cleaned up the gene pool a little bit

 

[onlinpunit]

Who else has the capability and motive to do this?

It can be any one. It can be a sabotage by a disgruntled group within Hezbollah.
It Can be done by CIA or the guys who managed to plant a bomb in th bedroom of hamas chief.
Israel no doubt is a prime suspect.

 

[Falcon29]

Hezbollah has released a press statement. Stating they won't stop daily operations to pressure Israel to end war in Gaza. And say there will be a response to this act against Lebanon and it's people:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1836245508781687190

 

[Falcon29]

It can be any one. It can be a sabotage by a disgruntled group within Hezbollah.
It Can be done by CIA or the guys who managed to plant a bomb in th bedroom of hamas chief.
Israel no doubt is a prime suspect.

Huh, Hamas's chief is in Gaza. Israel had no idea about Hamas's sophisticated operation on 10/7 and Hamas was not able to be compromised.