Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

Muslim countries trade volume with India.
Saudi trade with India 40 time as high as Iran

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I think all would have a surplus against India? If they want, they can leverage against India for Pakistan a lot diplomatically.
Remittance included?
 
Before people get carried away with this latest "Muslim Nato".

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First the "Muslim Nato" are losers.

When the Houthis get sent back to stone age then these Muslim NATO will be called genocidal.

I cannot wait to see you and your kind crying.

The Israelis/jews and Shia are most mad about this , funny that?
 
First the "Muslim Nato" are losers.

When the Houthis get sent back to stone age then these Muslim NATO will be called genocidal.

I cannot wait to see you and your kind crying.

The Israelis/jews and Shia are most mad about this , funny that?
Weak attempt to troll. Try again.
 
I asked AI about similar defensive alliance in the past and it provided me with this glorious list.

A comprehensive list of historical security pacts, defense treaties, and regional alliances attempted by Muslim-majority nations includes initiatives spanning the Cold War era to the current day.
These past initiatives are categorized below by their primary strategic objectives.

Hard Defense and Cold War Alliances
  • The Baghdad Pact / CENTO (1955): A pro-Western military alliance comprising Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, and the United Kingdom. It sought to prevent Soviet expansion in the Middle East but disintegrated after Iraq withdrew following its 1958 revolution. [1]
  • The Arab Joint Defense and Economic Cooperation Treaty (1950): Signed by early members of the Arab League (including Egypt, Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia), this pact contained an explicit mutual defense clause stating that an attack on one signatory was an attack on all. However, it suffered from profound political divisions and failed to foster real military unity during regional conflicts.
  • Saudi-Pakistani Bilateral Defense Pacts (1982 & September 2025): Pakistan has provided military training, protocols, and thousands of troops to safeguard Saudi territory for decades. This relationship was deeply formalized with a bilateral Strategic Mutual Defence Agreement, which laid the direct operational foundation for Turkey to join the framework. [1, 2, 3]

Counter-Terrorism and Coalition Frameworks
  • Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition (IMCTC, 2015): A pan-Islamic coalition initiated by Saudi Arabia that grew to include over 40 Muslim-majority countries, including Pakistan and Turkey. It focuses primarily on intelligence sharing, ideology combat, and counter-terrorism funding rather than conventional state-versus-state mutual defense. [1]
  • The Peninsula Shield Force (1984): The joint military arm of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), consisting of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, and Bahrain. While it serves as a collective defense force for the Gulf monarchies, its scope is strictly regional and it lacks the pan-Islamic scale or nuclear/industrial dimensions of the newer alliance.

Political and Economic Security Blocs
  • Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC, 1969): Established following the Al-Aqsa mosque arson, the OIC is the largest body of Muslim-majority states. It promotes Islamic solidarity, political cooperation, and the protection of holy sites, but it holds no military mandate or collective security mechanism. [1, 2, 3]
  • Regional Cooperation for Development (RCD, 1964) / Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO): Originally founded by Turkey, Pakistan, and Iran to build infrastructure and economic interconnectedness. While it successfully fostered trilateral ties, it purposely avoided expanding into a military or hardware defense apparatus.
  • The Damascus Declaration (1991): An alliance formed in the wake of the Gulf War between Egypt, Syria, and the six GCC states. It was intended to create an Arabic-led peacekeeping and security framework to protect the Gulf, but it quickly dissolved due to disagreements over funding and geopolitical alignment. [1]

Short-Lived Geopolitical Mergers
  • The United Arab Republic (UAR, 1958–1961): A total political and military fusion of Egypt and Syria driven by pan-Arab nationalism. It aimed to create a massive, centralized Arab military power but collapsed within three years due to Syrian resistance against Egyptian dominance.
  • The Arab Federation (1958): A direct, short-lived response to the UAR, merging the Hashemite kingdoms of Iraq and Jordan into a unified defense and political unit. It lasted only a few months before being permanently dismantled by the Iraqi military coup.
You can judge for yourself how successful all these have been :D
 
I asked AI about similar defensive alliance in the past and it provided me with this glorious list.

A comprehensive list of historical security pacts, defense treaties, and regional alliances attempted by Muslim-majority nations includes initiatives spanning the Cold War era to the current day.
These past initiatives are categorized below by their primary strategic objectives.

Hard Defense and Cold War Alliances
  • The Baghdad Pact / CENTO (1955): A pro-Western military alliance comprising Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, and the United Kingdom. It sought to prevent Soviet expansion in the Middle East but disintegrated after Iraq withdrew following its 1958 revolution. [1]
  • The Arab Joint Defense and Economic Cooperation Treaty (1950): Signed by early members of the Arab League (including Egypt, Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia), this pact contained an explicit mutual defense clause stating that an attack on one signatory was an attack on all. However, it suffered from profound political divisions and failed to foster real military unity during regional conflicts.
  • Saudi-Pakistani Bilateral Defense Pacts (1982 & September 2025): Pakistan has provided military training, protocols, and thousands of troops to safeguard Saudi territory for decades. This relationship was deeply formalized with a bilateral Strategic Mutual Defence Agreement, which laid the direct operational foundation for Turkey to join the framework. [1, 2, 3]

Counter-Terrorism and Coalition Frameworks
  • Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition (IMCTC, 2015): A pan-Islamic coalition initiated by Saudi Arabia that grew to include over 40 Muslim-majority countries, including Pakistan and Turkey. It focuses primarily on intelligence sharing, ideology combat, and counter-terrorism funding rather than conventional state-versus-state mutual defense. [1]
  • The Peninsula Shield Force (1984): The joint military arm of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), consisting of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, and Bahrain. While it serves as a collective defense force for the Gulf monarchies, its scope is strictly regional and it lacks the pan-Islamic scale or nuclear/industrial dimensions of the newer alliance.

Political and Economic Security Blocs
  • Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC, 1969): Established following the Al-Aqsa mosque arson, the OIC is the largest body of Muslim-majority states. It promotes Islamic solidarity, political cooperation, and the protection of holy sites, but it holds no military mandate or collective security mechanism. [1, 2, 3]
  • Regional Cooperation for Development (RCD, 1964) / Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO): Originally founded by Turkey, Pakistan, and Iran to build infrastructure and economic interconnectedness. While it successfully fostered trilateral ties, it purposely avoided expanding into a military or hardware defense apparatus.
  • The Damascus Declaration (1991): An alliance formed in the wake of the Gulf War between Egypt, Syria, and the six GCC states. It was intended to create an Arabic-led peacekeeping and security framework to protect the Gulf, but it quickly dissolved due to disagreements over funding and geopolitical alignment. [1]

Short-Lived Geopolitical Mergers
  • The United Arab Republic (UAR, 1958–1961): A total political and military fusion of Egypt and Syria driven by pan-Arab nationalism. It aimed to create a massive, centralized Arab military power but collapsed within three years due to Syrian resistance against Egyptian dominance.
  • The Arab Federation (1958): A direct, short-lived response to the UAR, merging the Hashemite kingdoms of Iraq and Jordan into a unified defense and political unit. It lasted only a few months before being permanently dismantled by the Iraqi military coup.
You can judge for yourself how successful all these have been :D
These "alliances" meant nothing. What did these Muslim nations produce at the time? Nothing.

Things are a little different now. Still, I don't see what benefit this alliance is for Turks and Pakistanis. We can still look after ourselves and don't really need each other.. a little different for Saudis as their Pan-Arabism Nationalism doesn't really exist beyond online forums.

While this Alliance might have good intentions I don't see how it works in an event of a serious war between Iran-Saudis or Pakistan-India and Turkiye-Israel.

It'll turn out how NATO is. Just join a war(all members) on smaller weaker deemed nations and act tough.
 
I think all 3 nations going for the Kaan will be a good thing, it keeps the fighter within their circles so they only rely on each other and will increase co-operation plus provide a heavy range fighter. J35 will still happen but Turkey and SA unlikely to procure (both probably try for F35).
 
lol, this guy thinks the legislature in Egpyt isn't a rubber stamp on the Pharoah. lol
You're a mod , right? Can you be a role model and respectful ?
Because i answer you respectfuly.
 
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English Translation:

Retired Rear Admiral Cihat Yaycı:

"Pakistan is the only nation, the only state that will stand unreservedly behind Türkiye.

Pakistan's strength adds to our strength.

Pakistan has never done the slightest thing against Türkiye.

The rapprochement between Türkiye, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia ensures stability and security in the region."

May the Lord make the unity and togetherness of the Turkish nation and its friends everlasting.

Strong Türkiye, strong friendships! 🇹🇷💪

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English Translation:
There was talk that after Iran, Turkey is next. After the Mecca defense agreement, Pakistan has now become very powerful, and after this alliance, Israel will think a thousand times before attacking Turkey because now Pakistan stands with Turkey.

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These "alliances" meant nothing. What did these Muslim nations produce at the time? Nothing.

Things are a little different now. Still, I don't see what benefit this alliance is for Turks and Pakistanis. We can still look after ourselves and don't really need each other.. a little different for Saudis as their Pan-Arabism Nationalism doesn't really exist beyond online forums.

While this Alliance might have good intentions I don't see how it works in an event of a serious war between Iran-Saudis or Pakistan-India and Turkiye-Israel.

It'll turn out how NATO is. Just join a war(all members) on smaller weaker deemed nations and act tough.

Perhaps with Saudi funding they can help fund projects for Turkiye and Pakistan that will enable them to produce more deadly advanced weapons systems that can help all 3 nations become major global military powers in the future?
 
Perhaps with Saudi funding they can help fund projects for Turkiye and Pakistan that will enable them to produce more deadly advanced weapons systems that can help all 3 nations become major global military powers in the future?
Not that they wouldn't do without Saudi funding, but, definitely, they can expedite it now....
 

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