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New evidence suggests Harappan civilisation is 7,000 to 8,000 years’ old

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New evidence suggests Harappan civilisation is 7,000 to 8,000 years’ old

The discovery has been made during the third phase of excavations carried out by the ASI along with various teams across the country

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The first phase of excavations at Rakhigarhi was carried out by Dr Amarendra Nath of the Indian Archaeology Department from 1997 to 2000 during which evidence of the North Harappan culture dating back to 2500 BC was found.

Researchers from Deccan College Pune along with the Central Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) have established that human remains discovered at an ancient site of Rakhigarhi – a village in the Hisar district of Haryana – date back around 8,000 years. The discovery has been made during the third phase of excavations carried out by the ASI along with various teams across the country, including researchers from Deccan College Pune.
The first phase of excavations at Rakhigarhi was carried out by Dr Amarendra Nath of the Indian Archaeology Department from 1997 to 2000 during which evidence of the North Harappan culture dating back to 2500 BC was found. (HT PHOTO)


The first phase of excavations at Rakhigarhi was carried out by Dr Amarendra Nath of the Indian Archaeology Department from 1997 to 2000 during which evidence of the North Harappan culture dating back to 2500 BC was found. The second phase of excavations at Rakhi Garhi was carried out by professor Vasant Shinde from Deccan College Pune from 2006 to 2013 during which Shinde’s team collected evidence and conducted DNA tests to establish that this culture could be over 4,000 years’ old. Over the past two years, the ASI and Deccan College Pune have jointly carried out the third phase of excavations at Rakhigarhi through a team led by ASI joint director Sanjay Kumar Manjul and Deccan College Pune assistant professor Prabhodh Shirwalkar.

Shirwalkar said, “There are three parts to the Harappan culture; East Harappan, Middle Harappan, and North Harappan (Modern). The earlier two excavations found evidence of the Middle and Modern Harappan cultures dating back around 4,000 years. But now, the evidence found in the third phase of excavations shows that the culture dates back 7,000 to 8,000 years. The final report of the work is being prepared by our team.”

Shirwalkar said that the research on this will continue for many more months. “Human ‘DNA’ has remained the same for 8,000 years which we have found during our research. When human traps were found here, they were thoroughly tested. Scientists have drawn conclusions based on this. A large burial ground was found here and it had human traps as well as animal traps,” Shirwalkar said.

The ASI is actively involved in excavations at the Rakhigarhi archaeological site, and the primary goal of these excavations, according to Ajay Yadav, additional director-general of the ASI, is to make the site accessible to the public. This involves exposing and conserving the structural remains for future viewing and providing amenities for visitors.

About utensils of various metals including gold and silver found during the excavation, Shirwalkar said that old silver and copper ornaments, too, have been found. “The most beautiful are the clay pots. A dinner set from that period has been found,” Shirwalkar said.

“We think that the words bedroom and kitchen are of recent origin. Whereas in Rakhigarhi, an even larger settlement of the largest ancient houses ever was found underground. A courtyard and a drainage system were also found in it. There were two to six- bedroom houses that were also available at that time. The clothing fashion of the people of that time is also known. A colourful worn piece of cloth, a shawl and skirt were also found,” he said.

“This research has found strong evidence that the Harappan civilisation is 7,000 to 8,000 years old. Scientists from the department of archaeology of India and Deccan College have worked together on the project. It is agreed that there was human habitation or civilisation in our country 8,000 years ago. The evidence shows that the people of that time were as advanced as they are today,” said Shirwalkar.

Earlier this year, union finance minister Nirmala Sitharaman had highlighted Rakhigarhi in her budget speech of 2023, emphasising on the development of five iconic sites of archaeological significance, including Rakhigarhi, with on-site museums. The plan is to showcase the antiquities uncovered at Rakhigarhi, now considered the largest Harappan site spanning 350 acres, in an under-construction museum near the site. The museum is estimated to be worth ₹23 crores.
 
Graham Hancock has been getting a lot of play recently, Netflix series etc

It seems that more generally our perception of ancient civilizations downplays just how ancient they were; ivc, Amazonian/aztec and ancient Egyptian civilizations are all far more impressive than what was previously understood. Wonder why it was so wrong to begin with.
 
Graham Hancock has been getting a lot of play recently, Netflix series etc

It seems that more generally our perception of ancient civilizations downplays just how ancient they were; ivc, Amazonian/aztec and ancient Egyptian civilizations are all far more impressive than what was previously understood. Wonder why it was so wrong to begin with.

When Decline of the West was written by Oswald Spengler he didn't mention the Indus Valley because it wasn't discovered at the time he wrote the work.
 
could it be pre diluvian?
 
This is what comes up on chat gpt when I ask about Pakistani civilizational history

Mehrgarh (c. 7000 BCE - 2600 BCE) (predating IVC or was part of it?- DK)
Indus Valley Civilization (c. 3300 BCE - 1300 BCE)
Vedic Period (c. 1500 BCE - 500 BCE) (Or Gandhara in Pakistan)
Achaemenid Empire (c. 550 BCE - 330 BCE)
Maurya and Gupta Empires (c. 322 BCE - 550 CE)
Hindu Shahi (c. 822 CE- 1050 CE)
Islamic Period (c. 7th century onwards) (In Sindh and parts of south Punjab than end of Hindu Shahi all added in)
Delhi Sultanate and Mughal Empire (c. 1206 - 1857)
Sikh Empire (c. 1799 - 1849) (Kalhora and Talpur dynaty in Sindh and parts of Baluchistan)
British India (c. 1858 - 1947)
Modern Pakistan (from 1947)

These are some ancient lands we call home, 5-6000 years of urbanized history

despite historically being less populated than Britain

saw through AASI, ancient Iranian, Aryans and all sorts of migrations, civilizations, wars, Kings , clans, tribes, rise and fall of great men
 
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could it be pre diluvian?

SSC site Rakhigarhi's date being pushed back to 6000 BCE is Huge news and the final nail in the coffin of "Aryan invasion theory".

Archaeological evidence of Hindu Vedic ritual structures like brick fire altars resembling Yoni Peetha & Garuda Vedi were discovered in Rakhigarhi.

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The burials in Rakhigarhi followed the Vedic Traditions showing an unbroken Hindu civilization of 8000+ years.

Matches the instructions give in the Atharva Veda.

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Here is a story of Yoni Pith found in Sari Deula at Bhubaneswar, Odisha.

From Western Tip of India to the Eastern Tip of the Indian peninsula, evidence of a common Hindu civilization exist.

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Yoni Pith of another temple found near Sari Deula

 
Rakhigarhi represents the urban apogee of Harappan civilization that extended from Manda in Jammu to Daimabad in Maharashtra, covering a distance of around 1,600 km.

What is noteworthy is that the area covered by the Harappan civilization was more than that of the
contemporary civilisation(s) in Egypt and Mesopotamia.

Chariot model found in Daimabad, Maharashtra.

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This is a rare terracotta plaque (9 cm-wide) from Nepal that depicts Krishna and Arjuna. While the epic talks about four horses for several people, Arjuna is specifically identified with a chariot drawn by four horses named Saibya, Sugriva, Meghapushpa and Balahaka. Salya, another great charioteer, drove Karna’s chariot with a single horse named Vayujit.

What is more interesting is that The two figures are wearing Harappan-style headbands.

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The tablet was authenticated by Oxford Authentication using thermoluminescence or TL dating method on May 14th, 2019. The result of the authentication confirms that the date of the firing was between 2,300 and 3,600 years ago, that is, 1,600 BCE to 300 BCE.


Similarly in a soapstone excavated from MohenjoDaro, Larkana district, Pakistan, there is a boy wearing bangles in both arms uprooting two trees from which emerge two human figures.

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The only person in our entire cornucopia of literature who does this is Krishna who uproots two trees from which emerged two cursed Gandharvas—Nalakubera and Manigriva. This is among the many popular stories in the Harivamsa and Bhagavata Purana, which establish the divinity of Krishna.

So we see can the common Hindu civilization from MohenjoDaro to Haryana to Nepal to Odisha and at least upto Maharashtra.
 
Graham Hancock has been getting a lot of play recently, Netflix series etc

It seems that more generally our perception of ancient civilizations downplays just how ancient they were; ivc, Amazonian/aztec and ancient Egyptian civilizations are all far more impressive than what was previously understood. Wonder why it was so wrong to begin with.

I do not know what the Amazonian civilization is. The IVC is not comparable to the Egyptian civilization. For that matter Aztec. This is not to downplay the IVC or Aztecs
 
I do not know what the Amazonian civilization is. The IVC is not comparable to the Egyptian civilization. For that matter Aztec. This is not to downplay the IVC or Aztecs

Graham Hancock believes that there was a large sophisticated civilization within the Amazon forest, watch his stuff, I just called it the Amazonian/Aztec.

I never said that they were comparable, I just said that they were all ancient.
 
I do not know what the Amazonian civilization is. The IVC is not comparable to the Egyptian civilization. For that matter Aztec. This is not to downplay the IVC or Aztecs

Have you heard of Gympie District, Queensland, Australia ?

One of the oldest artifact found there was the "Gympie Ape"

Its made of made of conglomerate ironstone.

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But do you know what else was found in Gympie ?

THIS,

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Statue of Hindu god Ganesha carved in GRANITE !

And THIS,

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Clearly a Hindu goddess sitting in a Yoga Mudra on a Lotus flower. Probably Goddess Laxmi.

So the Ape could very well be "Hanuman" mentioned in the Ramayana.
 
Graham Hancock believes that there was a large sophisticated civilization within the Amazon forest, watch his stuff, I just called it the Amazonian/Aztec.

I never said that they were comparable, I just said that they were all ancient.

There is a description of the Paracas Candelabra of Puru in the Ramayana.

It is said to be made by Indra (God of Thunder/Lightning and Rain) (also king of the Devas - demi Gods) to mark the Eastern direction.

In the Peruvian folklore the Paracas Candelabra or Trident is identified with the 'Lightening Rod of the Mayan God Viracocha'.

Andes mountain range is called the Udaya Parvata (mountain) in the Ramayana.

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There is a description of the Paracas Candelabra of Puru in the Ramayana.

It is said to be made by Indra (God of Thunder/Lightning and Rain) (also king of the Devas - demi Gods) to mark the Eastern direction.

In the Peruvian folklore the Paracas Candelabra or Trident is identified with the 'Lightening Rod of the Mayan God Viracocha'.

Andes mountain range is called the Udaya Parvata (mountain) in the Ramayana.

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It would not surprise me, there seems to be far far more depth and sophistication to the tale of ancient histories than popular culture would imply.

They also seemed to last longer and therefore you could infer they were more robust and wise even.
 

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