Painful stories of missing journalists

Awwad

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I was checking the recent video of this vlogger, in the sidebar this video appeared.

Its too painful, the video is of about a poet & a journalist Mudasir Naaru. I never had heard about him. The video is of 2021 in which his mother is saying that she is waiting for his son for 2.5 years. So today its almost 6 years and the guy is still missing. His son was 6 months old when he went missing and now the son must be 6 year old. His childhood is spent in search of his father coming to courts. Naaru's wife did a lot of struggle for his release or whereabouts, she was a teacher and was able to put food on the table. But tragically she is no more. Apparently she had a heart attack in 2021 and passed away. Now the kid has only her grand mother. Both kid and grand mother still comes to court in search of Naaru. Its a heart wrenching story. Initial search suggests that Naaru was very anti of non-democratic forces, he was critic of powerful establishment. He was of the view of strong democratic governments. I wonder how many other tragic and painful stories of other journalists maybe there too.



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The above videos are 3 year old, now I think people have forgotten him and now his wife is no more too. Its really tragic for that child that his mother left the world in pain and when he is just a child and his father may or may not be alive.

His mother & Child waiting for justice.

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There are many such stories of horror. The missing person cases and especially if you are a poet then you are a target somehow. Before the elections one fan of IK and pro-PTI poet was murdered and he was hiding and had mentioned that his life is in danger. Then recently another poet from Azad Kashmir went missing, abducted by ISI goons. Because of strong intervention of Islamabad high court, agencies made him appear in kashmir but still arrested him in some charges. Everyone must raise their voices for human rights abuses. No one deserves this treatment. All countries of the world must ensure human rights and true democratic principles. Security states with military in-charge have no future.
 

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I try to feel sympathy for these journalists sometimes because some of them are truly innocent - they investigated corrupt figures with power that got them killed.

But many of them were also not that innocent. So it's not that black and white. Many of them in the past had sympathetic links with terror groups, some linked to foreign agencies and only had the intention to cause chaos.
 

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But many of them were also not that innocent. So it's not that black and white. Many of them in the past had sympathetic links with terror groups, some linked to foreign agencies and only had the intention to cause chaos.

NOT TRUE! This very mindset is alarming. Journalists or poets do not hold any powerful position. There are far more treacherous minds as Generals, Bureaucrats, or any other positions. What's the problem of the state with poets ?? and a mere journalist only reports a story. The problem is often the state do not like the truth. BTW, If any journalist has any "links" then military needs to bring forward evidence and bring him in front of the court. There can't be a jungle's law that you disappear or kill a citizen on your own. If any state does such evil things then such state do not deserve to exist any more. Nobody has the right to decide on their own that someone is guilty or not.

I often get the most lamest excuse that courts free the criminals. We witnessed how, establishment can make even bogus cases on even former PM and head of largest political party and force judges to get desired verdicts. So, if they will ever have a genuine case and real evidence against an ordinary journalist or a poet then I am 100% sure that no judge on entire country will free that person. The problem is you NEVER actually had an evidence of the "links". The entire evil psychology of pakistan army revolves around shutting down voices. This needs to change. Pakistan has to improve.

Truly evil and dark states does such things as forced disappearances. You do those only when you know you have NOTHING against a person and person hasn't done anything wrong and you can't prove him guilty in courts. You just don't like his writing or his speeches and that's why you make him disappear.

 

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In western world too same drama happens bhai.......some journalist disappears investigating or following up on some lead. What's da diff?
 

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How many if these guys were simps for the BLA and other terrorist groups?
 

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How many if these guys were simps for the BLA and other terrorist groups?

In most cases the journalists / poets which went missing had no writings / reports on Baluchistan at all. They only were critique of military establishment, army's role in politics and everything, and how country is being run like a mafia. The powerful don't care if you are even doing actions against the country, but yes if you speak against the Generals, their way of conduct, their monopoly, their power & grip on everything and you bring awareness on that particular area, only then you are targeted.

On baluchistan and BLA, something is seriously wrong with military approach. Why a mother of two children, educated women will blew themselves on military convoy. This shows the amount of belief those people have developed on their cause. This shows how much military has alienated a section of society. You can't eliminate millions of people, you can't do what you did in east. you should learn and understand that those are your people. Get political people to talk and resolve the matter. They must have some genuine grievances. Yes, there is a terror group and india links but Its not all. That would not have lasted for so long. There are people who genuinely believe in their cause, they don't care about money, no body gives up his or her life without a genuine cause. you don't need money if you giving away the most precious thing you have, that is your life. Just imagine kind of tragedies and circumstances a group of people would have endured to take that route.

Read article below and understand it.
 

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In western world too same drama happens bhai.......some journalist disappears investigating or following up on some lead. What's da diff?

There is a difference bro. If journalist is investigating / following up on some lead and got disappeared that means its done to cover up a specific crime or a scandal or a particular case.

however in the west, you don't really get disappeared on simply critical writing or critical poetry. In the west, no one really bothers if someone is critical of military or politicians or anyone else. There is freedom of speech. No institution is so insecure minded that they will make a person disappear simply on his general awareness talks.
 

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There is a difference bro. If journalist is investigating / following up on some lead and got disappeared that means its done to cover up a specific crime or a scandal or a particular case.

however in the west, you don't really get disappeared on simply critical writing or critical poetry. In the west, no one really bothers if someone is critical of military or politicians or anyone else. There is freedom of speech. No institution is so insecure minded that they will make a person disappear simply on his general awareness talks.
Are you serious?

You go out on da limb on da US street and hold a banner saying Al-Qaeda and Daesh are CIA Sunni/ wahabbi lower caste converts and we need them against Russia/ China/ Iran for our geo-political agenda. And we need to recruit chutiye from this migrant community right here for role playing online/ overseas.

I'd like to see what happens to you..... :p
 
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Majority of us grew up listening to stories of people being missing but we always doubted these stories

But now Majority of Pakistan realize these stories had some weight in them
 

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Nasty elite and establishment of Pakistan has made that country a disaster.
 

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The above videos are 3 year old, now I think people have forgotten him and now his wife is no more too. Its really tragic for that child that his mother left the world in pain and when he is just a child and his father may or may not be alive

If 20 years later this kid blow himself up in the middle of a busy street...................... Will you blame him ?
 

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NOT TRUE! This very mindset is alarming. Journalists or poets do not hold any powerful position. There are far more treacherous minds as Generals, Bureaucrats, or any other positions. What's the problem of the state with poets ?? and a mere journalist only reports a story. The problem is often the state do not like the truth. BTW, If any journalist has any "links" then military needs to bring forward evidence and bring him in front of the court. There can't be a jungle's law that you disappear or kill a citizen on your own. If any state does such evil things then such state do not deserve to exist any more. Nobody has the right to decide on their own that someone is guilty or not.

I often get the most lamest excuse that courts free the criminals. We witnessed how, establishment can make even bogus cases on even former PM and head of largest political party and force judges to get desired verdicts. So, if they will ever have a genuine case and real evidence against an ordinary journalist or a poet then I am 100% sure that no judge on entire country will free that person. The problem is you NEVER actually had an evidence of the "links". The entire evil psychology of pakistan army revolves around shutting down voices. This needs to change. Pakistan has to improve.

Truly evil and dark states does such things as forced disappearances. You do those only when you know you have NOTHING against a person and person hasn't done anything wrong and you can't prove him guilty in courts. You just don't like his writing or his speeches and that's why you make him disappear.


Dude I'm not reading all of that cope, clearly you have your mind made up about it already so no point in discussing

But I know countless that actively call for violence, and it's their job to act against that.
 

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Dude I'm not reading all of that cope, clearly you have your mind made up about it already so no point in discussing

But I know countless that actively call for violence, and it's their job to act against that.
200 k qareeb westerners nay journalists maar daalay hain sirf Gaza main in da last year or so….!

So we don’t get to see the tens of thousands of babies and children buried under the rubble.

I’m no mazhabi dude……but dis shit is shameful and criminal.
 

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How many if these guys were simps for the BLA and other terrorist groups?
Then have a proper trial of them in a court? Forced disappearances aren't the way. Why creating grudges in population with such shenanigans?
 

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Then have a proper trial of them in a court? Forced disappearances aren't the way. Why creating grudges in population with such shenanigans?

Don't negotiate with terrorists who murder barbers, who kill innocents and blow up infrastructure

These people are scum,

Who are you going to talk to and about what?

It's all going to be some ethnocentric jahilat that any rational state could never agree to


At some point you have to make a stand against this degeneracy



IBOs,. Strengthen the border, work with Iran and help each other destroy a common enemy of both Pakistan, Iran and the Muslims
 

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