Pakistan Air Force/air defense confirmed kills with visual confirmation in Pakistan -india conflict

[Jango007]

Four Days in May: The India-Pakistan Crisis of 2025 • Stimson Center

An early assessment of available evidence on what transpired in the recent India-Pakistan crisis and its implications

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The French Are Anxious to Know the Fate of Rafales in Operation Sindoor Combat

“The issue of the Rafale is, of course, of primary importance to us,” said a French defence ministry spokesperson, noting that any confirmation of loss would mark the first in the warplane’s history.

thewire.in

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India finally admits it lost fighter jets in clash with Pakistan

Speaking candidly about the brief conflict with Pakistan earlier this month, India’s chief of defence staff says two countries never close to nuclear war

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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/31/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-conflict-jets-intl

How Did India Lose a Rafale Jet Against Pakistan?

As impressive as the Rafale’s maneuverability is, maneuverability doesn’t count for much in the BVR (beyond-visual-range) dogfighting conditions that comprised the dogfight between India and Pakistan.

nationalinterest.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/04/india-news-channels-misinformation-pakistan-conflict/

Operation Sindoor: How India's Gamble Backfired and Made It More Vulnerable

India's recent military operation against Pakistan has failed to achieve its strategic objectives while exposing critical vulnerabilities and strengthening China-Pakistan cooperation. The subcontinent now teeters on the edge of a devastating conflict with China holding the keys to escalation...

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[Jango007]

Dozens killed as Pakistan and India exchange fire in disputed Kashmir

India said it had carried out a "precision strike" on "terrorist camps" - but Pakistan's defence minister said all the targets hit were civilian places, not militant camps.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-05-06/india-strikes-pakistan-after-kashmir-attack?taid=681a995b79cfff00010e3910&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/three-fighter-jets-crashed-indias-jammu-kashmir-local-govt-sources-say-2025-05-07/

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[Windjammer]

It seems India didn't learn it's lesson from 2019 with trying it's luck by using the spice jet airliner and indulged with same misadventure during last month clash :
@Oscar @Trailer23 @Irfan Baloch @Panzerkiel

Express Tribune

In the ongoing information warfare between India and Pakistan, narratives clash with great fervor. India has, over the past few weeks, come forward accusing Pakistan of using civilian airliners as...

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[Irfan Baloch]

It seems India didn't learn it's lesson from 2019 with trying it's luck by using the spice jet airliner and indulged with same misadventure during last month clash :
@Oscar @Trailer23 @Irfan Baloch @Panzerkiel

Express Tribune

In the ongoing information warfare between India and Pakistan, narratives clash with great fervor. India has, over the past few weeks, come forward accusing Pakistan of using civilian airliners as...

www.facebook.com

looks like the Indians learnt that trick from their Israeli friends (who don't let them in the restaurants during peace times , and kick them out during religious rituals and deny entry to Indians into air shelters ).

Israelis have been claiming Hamas has its head quarters under the hospitals when in fact its the Israelis who were found out to have a military base under the Hospital which got exposed last week during a missile attack.

in future whenever Indian government makes any absurd accusation on Pakistan be assured its actually doing that itself.

 

[Windjammer]

Meanwhile I received this information from some reliable sources !

This is how the score increased to 7-0

HQ-9B - UAV
HQ-9B - Su-30MKi (Akhnoor)
J-10c - Rafale (Bhatinda)
J-10c - Rafale (Pir Panjal)
J-10c - Rafale (Shawalakot)
J-10c - Mirage 2000 (Pampore)
J-10c - MiG-29 (Ramban)

 

[Oscar]

It seems India didn't learn it's lesson from 2019 with trying it's luck by using the spice jet airliner and indulged with same misadventure during last month clash :
@Oscar @Trailer23 @Irfan Baloch @Panzerkiel

Express Tribune

In the ongoing information warfare between India and Pakistan, narratives clash with great fervor. India has, over the past few weeks, come forward accusing Pakistan of using civilian airliners as...

www.facebook.com

They basically projected onto Pakistan what they tried to do.
Not only that , they recklessly endangered civilian airliners during that engagement while PK ATC had to push airliners to expedite out of the combat zone.

Humanity is gone from this Bhakotra bunch.
Dont talk to them, dont engage with them. Just report - ٹٹّی سے کھیلنے میں کوئی شان نہیں ہے

 

[Oscar]

Meanwhile I received this information from some reliable sources !

This is how the score increased to 7-0

HQ-9B - UAV
HQ-9B - Su-30MKi (Akhnoor)
J-10c - Rafale (Bhatinda)
J-10c - Rafale (Pir Panjal)
J-10c - Rafale (Shawalakot)
J-10c - Mirage 2000 (Pampore)
J-10c - MiG-29 (Ramban)

Without imagery and wreckage proof it is much like the MKI from 2019 - only electronic and HUMINT proof.

 

[Master Chief]

It seems India didn't learn it's lesson from 2019 with trying it's luck by using the spice jet airliner and indulged with same misadventure during last month clash :
@Oscar @Trailer23 @Irfan Baloch @Panzerkiel

Express Tribune

In the ongoing information warfare between India and Pakistan, narratives clash with great fervor. India has, over the past few weeks, come forward accusing Pakistan of using civilian airliners as...

www.facebook.com

You may recall that Pakistani air traffic controllers rejected the request of an Indian civilian aircraft approx 2 months ago to enter our airspace because of turbulence.

I still maintain that this was a correct approach because IF something did happen to that plane following our decision to allow it in, Indian media would immediately have blamed our ATC.

They are truly that toxic now, constantly inventing these fantastic new narratives, that our various civil and military professionals need to be very cautious of Indian civilian craft even in situations of crisis.

 

[Windjammer]

Without imagery and wreckage proof it is much like the MKI from 2019 - only electronic and HUMINT proof.

I understand PAF has more than that up it's sleeve this time !

 

[Windjammer]

The icing on the cake is Indians claiming that Pakistan is so scared that it closed it's airspace.
Hell if your enemy needs your permission to attack you then Iran should have learned from the Indians .

 

[Oscar]

I understand PAF has more than that up it's sleeve this time !

Just like you doing the dirty dishes - if the wife didn’t see you do it or you don’t have irrefutable photographs - it didn’t happen

 

[Trailer23]

You may recall that Pakistani air traffic controllers rejected the request of an Indian civilian aircraft approx 2 months ago to enter our airspace because of turbulence.

It was an IndiGo a320 that got caught up in a hailstorm.

First of all, gotta give credit where its due. The Flight Deck (Pilots) did a remarable job landing that f#*kin' thing 'cause judging by the damage & conditions..., them landing safely was a miarcle.

I still maintain that this was a correct approach because IF something did happen to that plane following our decision to allow it in, Indian media would immediately have blamed our ATC.

Let their DGCA clean up their sh!t too. Having an awesome economy, 1000's of Aircrafts & they still can't keep their sh#it togther. I'm surprised they didn't blame Pakistan for the Air India B787 crash in Ahmedabad.

Arnab whatshisface actually accused Turkey for the Ground Handlining & Turkish Technic in one of his shows.

 

[Trailer23]

HQ-9B - UAV
HQ-9B - Su-30MKi (Akhnoor)
J-10c - Rafale (Bhatinda)
J-10c - Rafale (Pir Panjal)
J-10c - Rafale (Shawalakot)
J-10c - Mirage 2000 (Pampore)
J-10c - MiG-29 (Ramban)

The one in Bhatinda is the one where a Rafale is falling from grace in 2 different camera angles. Killed a Villager. Recorded by a number of bystanders.

 

[Areesh]

Without imagery and wreckage proof it is much like the MKI from 2019 - only electronic and HUMINT proof.

Imagery and wreckage of 4 is present this time

1. SU30 MKI (Akhnoor)
2. Mig29 (Ramban)
3. Mirage 2000 (Pampore)
4. Rafale (Bathinda)

I have seen picture of some big Israeli drone wreckage on the night of 7th May(unfortunately didn't save that). So proof of five is definitely present

So this time we have some good stuff thanks to social media and that is what forced Anil Chauhan to come up with that interview with Bloomberg

 

[Jango007]

Imagery and wreckage of 4 is present this time

1. SU30 MKI (Akhnoor)
2. Mig29 (Ramban)
3. Mirage 2000 (Pampore)
4. Rafale (Bathinda)

I have seen picture of some big Israeli drone wreckage on the night of 7th May(unfortunately didn't save that). So proof of five is definitely present

So this time we have some good stuff thanks to social media and that is what forced Anil Chauhan to come up with that interview with Bloomberg

the bottom line is that we shot down everyone of their front line aircraft.......
imagine the panic and sheer chaos in their ranks right now...