Pakistan General Elections 2024

[PakCan]

OR not AND

IK has lied and backstabbed many times. For example, bringing electables and conspiring with establishment and its brutal tactics to come to power. These are all contrary to the principles PTI was originally founded on.

Yaar , get of the sasti charas

 

[WildApache]

what is the gaurantee that these independent candidates will not support PML-N after elections ?
what does rule say ? since they dont belong to PTI, they can support anyone.

Bidding ongoing
Reason for delay
Zardari in out of the blue ....

 

[Olympus81]

It will be difficult to make it look like a PMLN victory from this point.

Lets see.

 

[Fatman17]

I'm seeing lots of internet down posts, but Can Pakistani residents tell if their Fiber connection is working fine ,
and if it's working then what your establishment is trying to achieve by banning mobile internet but leaving out the cable- internet facility.

Mobile network was 100% down in Pakistan. Therefore voters couldn't access their voter data by sending a text message to 8300. If you don't have that information then it gets difficult to vote because you don't know where your polling station is located.
Internet was blocked selectively. In my area it was not

 

[arjunk]

The real question here is why WoT impacted Pakistan and not these other two countries.

it may be on a smaller scale compared to WoT but India has had an insurgency in Kashmir for two decades or more now. Why has it not impacted the national economy or exploded into something much bigger? On the contrary, the last two decades have seen a vast positive economic transformation in India.

Blaming WoT for Pakistan’s woes is only a quarter of the story.

Because the scope of the Kashmir conflict is limited to the freedom of Kashmir (a small, isolated territory relative to India) and implementation of UN resolutions.

On the other hand, TTP seeks to overthrow the entire country of Pakistan, BLA wants to break half the country off.

Here are other factors:


1. Kashmiris are disarmed unlike Pashtuns/Baloch.

2.Kashmiris are less conservative than Pashtuns, less likely to join religious militia, and also more tolerant towards Indian mistakes.

3.Kashmiris have no ethnic/tribal affiliation with Afghanistan. Some Pashtuns joined TTP because they thought Pakistani democratic govt was an American puppet aiding a crusade against Afghan Muslims. Thus, they believed the Pakistani govt should be replaced with their version of Sharia.

4.Kashmiris do not enjoy the level of arms and logistical support that Taliban or BLA does. Kashmiris are using crappy old weapons or captured Type 56 (INSAS is not even used because it is so bad). TTP and BLA have latest US weapons, and roam openly in Iran and Afghanistan. Meanwhile, Kashmiri fighters live in caves in the forest, and people like Bajwa and Imran Khan have shut down their infiltration routes.

5. LoC is shorter than Durrand Line

6. India has 600,000-700,000 troops in Kashmir, Pakistan only 200,000 at the Durrand Line.

7. Pakistan does not commit the level of suppression and human rights abuses that India does. Partly because Baloch and Pashtun militants are indigenous to Pakistan, while Kashmiris are foreign to India and it is easier to abuse foreigners than your own misguided people

 

[ThrustVector998]

Pti was leading on 150+ seats. They closed result announcement in the night and started announcing again in the morning. After manipulating results, it looks like pti will be given max 80 seats. 1971 repeating.

 

[arjunk]

Yaar , get of the sasti charas

You need to stop blindly worshipping politicians. You have not been in the system and seen how filthy they all are and the things you need to do to get to power.

 

[Protagoras]

The Generals are in a war room deciding whose results to flip.

All major PTI candidates are now loosing their seats.

Reduce PTI to 60-70 and then chip away the relatively new or weak independents.

 

[Protagoras]

That's what we are hoping for too.

PTI takes over and is allowed to rule 5 years. In 5 years IK would irreversibly damage foreign relations. India needs two things, UNSC permanent membership and OIC membership. IK could indirectly help in our cause.

Nice try.

Needed a bit more subtleness.

Not your fault. Indians are not the subtle kind.

 

[Ghseean]

Nawaz Sharif is done and dusted. He tossed his election victory speech in the trash and is going home.

i don't think so, the way yesterday after polling sends, police took over whole constituency where Marium is contesting for Punjab assembly.

they kick out polling agents out of polling stations and overnight what has happened will be shown in results.

how can she let her seat go as she is dreaming CM Punjab.

by 12 at night average 10% of results were announced on tv channels of the constituencies. in the morning today they were around 16-20%.

they are going to break record of rigging anywhere in the world.

 

[Olympus81]

Guys stick to the topic.

Indians, please take India focused posts to another thread.

 

[Ghseean]

Then why vote manipulation, pitch k donon taraf agar yehi batting kar rahe hain to phr dar kis cheez k ... results kiun change ho rahe??

yesterday Nawaz said when a news channel representative asked "are you going to make govt with alliance" he said: "no we need clear majority" his reaction was spontaneous.

they will rig elections to the level where they need minimum assistance from some other party or independents.

 

[Waterboy]

I would disagree.

I believe if PTI wins and is allowed to rule by the establishment (ironic thing to say), they will make amends. I am sure there are sane minds in establishment who would reciprocate.

The establishment needs to understand. The majority have decided on PTI, now please take a back seat and let them succeed or fail and let the next elections decide.

These theatrics invite more ridicule towards Pakistan.

Khan u turned on everything he said. When got along well with bajwa, bajwa was the best. Asim munir one of the best when introducing him to foreign dignitaries. There are no sane minds in military, the trust is gone.

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

yesterday Nawaz said when a news channel representative asked "are you going to make govt with alliance" he said: "no we need clear majority" his reaction was spontaneous.

they will rig elections to the level where they need minimum assistance from some other party or independents.

They won't be able to....
especially if margin is upwards of 30-40k
Coalition gov all the way - no matter whose PM comes to power
PTI will get around 100 seats atleast - PMLN gets to manipulate the strategic seats of senior leadership and that's about it
While PTI's senior leadership gets the kick
10-15 seat rigging

 

[Gauz]

No clear winner in Pakistan as Khan-backed independents lead vote count

Ex-PM Nawaz Sharif claims victory despite trailing Imran Khan-backed independents as counting nears end.

www.aljazeera.com