Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NA71]

Do you know why it's happening in the first place? Because in 2019, PAF was able to show us a weapon video when only 4-6 total A2G weapons were fired. This time around their claim is that they delivered more tonnage on Indian targets on May 10th in 4-6 hours than they managed to do in entire 1965 war which continued for 17 Days and yet there is No weapon video, no BDA report, no satellite imagery. People are not frustrated without a reason. What they are compelled to do is using non-official social media account to post non-clear CCTV footages showing explosion taking place near by on Indian soil.

Yet another our claim .....although its true.....we delivered more tonnage ....

 

[Baibers_1260]

Because videos for that are available? And no, satellite imagery for Iranian attack on US base is available.

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Some lack of basic comprehension skills on your part:
I mentioned IRAN had no satellite imagery available. The USA like Russia, Israel, (and to some extent Ukraine), has no problem acknowledging hits, and in fact the USA is far more honest than others in acknowledging losses. The USA in fact publishes its own pictures of BDA. Any country with genuine military strength, and above all resolve has no compunction stating facts.
It is India that plays "Bollywood " fantasies like shooting down an F-16 in 2019, and claiming no damage in retaliatory missile strikes by Pakistan. India does eventually acknowledge the truth, but only months later such as the "friendly fire" downing of the Mil-17 helicopter in February 2019 .Meanwhile it also plays a victim card.


Thanks for providing the Osint commentary which is extremely interesting (extract below):
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<< While not directly denying an impact, U.S. officials in the days and weeks after clearly attempted to downplay the Iranian attack, likely in an effort to not disrupt the swift ceasefire between Israel and Iran that was signed almost immediately following the attack against Al Udeid >>
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Note the words:
" Swift ceasefire,"; "down play Iranian attack" ...
Now substitute Iranian with Pakistani and a similar situation seems plausible,

Next round of the "new normal" please.
@Master Chief @Pak Shaheen

 

[gamaji]

Even though Razi Dada starts by talking about apparent Saudi-India 'strategic' relations in the context of Iran-India 'strategic' relations and how Indians backstabbed Iranians in favor of their real strategic partner, i.e. Israel. But more interestingly, he reveals how Iran has just recently handed over several hundred terrorists to Pakistan.

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[PakShaheen_79]

your approach to justify validity of your conclusions, is right!
Truth is evidence based or it may seem to a person.

I'd argue, you are wrong!

how?

even though, a circle can divided into pies (which is an optical illusion)..
those divided pies still have circles (as centers!) as without centers, pies would not exist, in the first place!

Nice attempt but wrong analogy!
It is "there can't be a smoke without a fire in the first place" type argument. Here, a black and white answer is required. No grey areas, no half backed theories. This is that typical situation for Pakistan where either you Put Up or you Shut Up!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Nice attempt but wrong analogy!
It is "there can't be a smoke without a fire in the first place" type argument. Here, a black and white answer is required. No grey areas, no half backed theories. This is that typical situation for Pakistan where either you Put Up or you Shut Up!

i'm not here to prove you wrong!
but, truth is never black or white...
Truth is relative and needs to understood (not proven by evidence)


I hope, you can see, the contrast, in my 1st and 3rd line.
if you cannot, then I rest my case!

 

[NA71]

Because videos for that are available? And no, satellite imagery for Iranian attack on US base is available.

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The Imgae in the tweet is edited using free tool available.....and Indians are happy to use it as evidence

 

[PakShaheen_79]

i'm not here to prove you wrong!
but, truth is never black or white...
Truth is relative and needs to understood (not proven by evidence)


I hope, you can see, the contrast, in my 1st and 3rd line.
if you cannot, then I rest my case!

So you mean truth has versions. Your version, my version, Indian version or Pakistani version. Right?

Let me tell you, TRUTH is SINGULAR! It has NO Version. Inability to reach it or accept it is another matter. You can best argue that no body know full singular truth but this is where evidence comes in and help us complete the circle.

 

[Distant_Observer]

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[Cipher212]

Another point to think about. Considering that Sargodha runway was hit. Why does it have intersecting runways?

Should our airbases have more runways or alternate strips in case of a hit? And why didn't we see any rapid repair on the crater. I think on twitter the damage was there for at least another 3-4 days.

 

[Maarkhoor]

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[Abdul q]

Another point to think about. Considering that Sargodha runway was hit. Why does it have intersecting runways?

Should our airbases have more runways or alternate strips in case of a hit? And why didn't we see any rapid repair on the crater. I think on twitter the damage was there for at least another 3-4 days.

Our motorways are make shift runways

 

[Ali_Baba]

Another point to think about. Considering that Sargodha runway was hit. Why does it have intersecting runways?

Should our airbases have more runways or alternate strips in case of a hit? And why didn't we see any rapid repair on the crater. I think on twitter the damage was there for at least another 3-4 days.

The design choices of airbases, in particular to the one you refer to, amongst others are odd. Sargodha AB was knocked out for several hours while the runways were repaired both down to poor design, and lack of adequate redundancy in the lack of runways, also in the design of the airbases. It was shocking to hear Sargodha was knocked out for several hours, it is such an important airbase as well.

 

[side-winder]

The design choices of airbases, in particular to the one you refer to, amongst others are odd. Sargodha AB was knocked out for several hours while the runways were repaired both down to poor design, and lack of adequate redundancy in the lack of runways, also in the design of the airbases. It was shocking to hear Sargodha was knocked out for several hours, it is such an important airbase as well.

What do you think the parallel operating surfaces are for? Only taxing? No Sir.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

So you mean truth has versions. Your version, my version, Indian version or Pakistani version. Right?

Let me tell you, TRUTH is SINGULAR! It has NO Version. Inability to reach it or accept it is another matter. You can best argue that no body know full singular truth but this is where evidence comes in and help us complete the circle.

thats your version!
everything runs on relativity (understood under scientific principles)
truth is not singular nor it has many versions..
truth determines the fragility of arguments.
(but what is the evidence of what I am saying is based on evidence)
Counter question you could have asked, which only shows your inability to synthesize behaviors!

(where is evidence /truth of this: Truth is relative and needs to be understood (not proven by evidence)

see the video I have posted in your account

 

[Cipher212]

Our motorways are make shift runways

They are but I meant having more alternate strips on the base itself.

For example Sargodha has two and they intersect. If you made even one hit on where they cross you will at least force the jets to taxi to the other side.