Palestinians can still win this war

[fitpOsitive]

If they declare Jahad against Israel. If they declare themselves Muslims rather than Palestinians. Allah's promise is for Muslims not for any nation.
As long as they keep themselves secular, they will be getting exterminated like this till the last Palestinian.

Delare Jahad, and identify this movement as an Islamic movement, and don't be afraid of losing support from Arab Christians.




This is the war Flag I wanted to give to Pak army one day, and this the war flag I want to give to Palestinians today. May Allah be with them and us.
Aameen.

 

[Saifullah]

It’s not “can still win”.
They will win this war.
The only way anyone can stop israel from losing is by freeing Palestine.
Otherwise, this war will go on for generations. If Hamas is weakened another group will emerge. The ideology will stay strong.
Zionists have gone full Genocide mode in Gaza. Even the most peace loving Palestinian now wants revenge.
The morale of Israeli terrorists fighting in Gaza is low. They as a nation are very divided between far left and far right.
Palestinians will continue to resist until they are free even if the intensity of resistance is lower, resistance will always be alive.
The only outcome in this war is Palestinians get their land back.

If they declare Jahad against Israel. If they declare themselves Muslims

Delare Jahad

don't be afraid of losing support from Arab Christians.

Islamic movement

Hamas did declare Jihad and say they’re fighting for Islamic reasons. They don’t care about the west. They’ve appealed to Muslims all over the world for help. Their flag has the Shahada on it.

 

[Developereo]

Delare Jahad, and identify this movement as an Islamic movement

The Kashmiris struggle is an Islamic struggle. How much help are they getting from the rest of the Muslim world? Which side in that struggle is getting billions of dollars from the Gulf Arabs and other Muslim nations?

Post colonialism, the Sykes-Picot accord and other carvings up of Muslim lands were designed to keep Muslims split and fighting amongst each other. The European colonialists picked the most brutal, most selfish warlords and made them kings of their little tinpot kingdoms.

 

[fitpOsitive]

The Kashmiris struggle is an Islamic struggle. How much help are they getting from the rest of the Muslim world? Which side in that struggle is getting billions of dollars from the Gulf Arabs and other Muslim nations?

Post colonialism, the Sykes-Picot accord and other carvings up of Muslim lands were designed to keep Muslims split and fighting amongst each other. The European colonialists picked the most brutal, most selfish warlords and made them kings of their little tinpot kingdoms.

That's actually a very good point.
Let me explain it for you.
In 1980s jahad in Kashmir indeed got support from all around the globe. Arabs chechans Pakistani even Indian Muslims arrived Kashmir to fight. But then with passage of time they realized that kashmiri Jahad is not going anywhere but some generals of Pakistan army are buying properties all around the globe. Till late 1990s, these people already left Kashmir for Afghanistan where another venture was waiting for them.

 

[Developereo]

That's actually a very good point.
Let me explain it for you.
In 1980s jahad in Kashmir indeed got support from all around the globe. Arabs chechans Pakistani even Indian Muslims arrived Kashmir to fight. But then with passage of time they realized that kashmiri Jahad is not going anywhere but some generals of Pakistan army are buying properties all around the globe. Till late 1990s, these people already left Kashmir for Afghanistan where another venture was waiting for them.

We don't need ragtag individuals flocking there on foot.
We need Muslim leaders to form a united front. That has not happened, that will not happen any time soon.

These fantasies may be harmless for those of us sitting comfortably far away but the locals pay in blood.

 

[That_Guy]

Hamas doesn't have to win, they just have to make sure not to lose, that is their end game condition for declaring victory.

Israel has trapped itself with its stated and impossible goal of completely annihilating Hamas as both a political and military force. Most serious neutral observers have said that Israel's publically stated goals are unrealistic and impossible to achieve. Scholars such as Norman Finklestein, Noam Chomsky, John Mearsheimer have all suggested that Israel's actions are leading to an unachievable victory for Israel, and heading towards a long perpetual war that only a US political intervention can stop.

We're already seeing Biden forcing Israel and the IDF of scaling back some of their large scale operations and air campaign simply because they achieved nothing tactically, while trapping their forces in North Gaza fighting Hamas fighters who know the terrain better and have laid out traps for the better part of the last decade.

Another thing to note is that Israel is hiding its casualties. If not deaths (which I believe it is), then they're obviously hiding injuries suffered by the IDF, this lie was caught by Israeli newspaper Hareetz who investigated Israeli casualty claims and found that they do not match hospital records which far exceed the official IDF numbers.

Israel was fucked as soon as Natenyahu decided to go for a full invasion, and I suspect Natenyahu did it on purpose. The Oct 7th attack guaranteed his government was going to fall, a perpetual never ending war gives him a chance to keep power. The longer the war goes on, the more people will forget he's the reason for this entire situation, and that seems to be exactly what he's betting on.

We don't need ragtag individuals flocking there on foot.
We need Muslim leaders to form a united front. That has not happened, that will not happen any time soon.

These fantasies may be harmless for those of us sitting comfortably far away but the locals pay in blood.

Doesn't have to be a military response, just a united political one. Together the Muslim world has the power to force European and Western powers to stop their unconditional support for Israel.

But like you suggested, even that's unrealistic. Muslims are too divided. Pakistanis are obsessed with a united Ummah, but the chances of that currently are slim to none.