Project 17B: Defence Ministry set to clear ₹70,000 crore frigates' order

[Fifa124]

New Delhi: The defence ministry is set to clear a mega ₹70,000 crore order for new warships for the Indian Navy. The stealth frigates will be the most advanced ships to be built in India and are a follow-on of the Nilgiri class that are currently under construction.

Sources said that state-run yards - Mazagon Dockyards Limited (MDL) and Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) - are the frontrunners for the order that is classified as Project 17B. The two yards are currently constructing frigates under Project 17A (Nilgiri class). MDL is making four of the frigates while GRSE is executing an order for three.

While details will emerge after the defence ministry clears the project, there is a possibility that it could be split between the two yards, as was the case for Project 17A. A split order helps shorten delivery timelines for the Indian Navy.

The advanced frigates will have high indigenous content, which will include locally developed fire control system, Brahmos cruise missiles, anti-submarine weapons and electronic warfare systems. The order will help boost dozens of sub-suppliers and vendors who will get a major share of the work.

One of India's most advanced shipyards, MDL has a larger order book that could get further strengthened with the order. The Mumbai-based yard is currently constructing the Kalvari class submarines, Project 17A class frigates and has just completed construction of Project 15B class destroyers.

The yard is also expected to sign a contract for three additional Kalvari class submarines in the current financial year, which is likely to be valued at around ₹35,000 crore. These new submarines will be larger and more advanced than the six Kalvari class that have been constructed by the yard.

GRSE is currently building next generation offshore patrol vessels and anti-submarine warfare corvettes. The Kolkata-based yard also has had recent success in securing export orders, with several more in the pipeline.

 

[Pingle]

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New Delhi: The defence ministry is set to clear a mega ₹70,000 crore order for new warships for the Indian Navy. The stealth frigates will be the most advanced ships to be built in India and are a follow-on of the Nilgiri class that are currently under construction.

Sources said that state-run yards - Mazagon Dockyards Limited (MDL) and Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) - are the frontrunners for the order that is classified as Project 17B. The two yards are currently constructing frigates under Project 17A (Nilgiri class). MDL is making four of the frigates while GRSE is executing an order for three.

While details will emerge after the defence ministry clears the project, there is a possibility that it could be split between the two yards, as was the case for Project 17A. A split order helps shorten delivery timelines for the Indian Navy.

The advanced frigates will have high indigenous content, which will include locally developed fire control system, Brahmos cruise missiles, anti-submarine weapons and electronic warfare systems. The order will help boost dozens of sub-suppliers and vendors who will get a major share of the work.

One of India's most advanced shipyards, MDL has a larger order book that could get further strengthened with the order. The Mumbai-based yard is currently constructing the Kalvari class submarines, Project 17A class frigates and has just completed construction of Project 15B class destroyers.

The yard is also expected to sign a contract for three additional Kalvari class submarines in the current financial year, which is likely to be valued at around ₹35,000 crore. These new submarines will be larger and more advanced than the six Kalvari class that have been constructed by the yard.

GRSE is currently building next generation offshore patrol vessels and anti-submarine warfare corvettes. The Kolkata-based yard also has had recent success in securing export orders, with several more in the pipeline.

Great news... NILGIRI class is one hell of a warship.... with China continuously increasing 52/55 nos and Pakistan adding new warships and submarines this was much needed addition to Indian navy.... Hope they will be armed with 900 km range Brahmos....

 

[harpy1]

Any images of this new 17B

I have seen niglrli class many times

INS Vindhyagiri and Project 17A - Civilsdaily

INS Vindhyagiri is the sixth ship of the Project 17A Frigates series, showcasing India's commitment to indigenous defense technology and self-reliance.

www.civilsdaily.com

 

[Pingle]

Any images of this new 17B

I have seen niglrli class many times

INS Vindhyagiri and Project 17A - Civilsdaily

INS Vindhyagiri is the sixth ship of the Project 17A Frigates series, showcasing India's commitment to indigenous defense technology and self-reliance.

www.civilsdaily.com

I would also love to watch....

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Great news... NILGIRI class is one hell of a warship.... with China continuously increasing 52/55 nos and Pakistan adding new warships and submarines this was much needed addition to Indian navy.... Hope they will be armed with 900 km range Brahmos....

Actually I never understand the indian navy requirements.

Indian naval warships are having less fire power compared to their sizes.

Most disappointment to see the kamorta class ship - with the such size can be performed more than anti submarine role.

Indian army seems focus more on endurance in sea than fire power

 

[Pingle]

Actually I never understand the indian navy requirements.

Indian naval warships are having less fire power compared to their sizes.

Most disappointment to see the kamorta class ship - with the such size can be performed more than anti submarine role.

Indian army seems focus more on endurance in sea than fire power

Yes if you see other country warships I have to agree that our warships are way too underpowered.... look at the VLS cells of Arleigh Burke, Type 55 warships and even Turkey is coming with TF-2000 class heavy warships...
In front of these our warships looks too under power and their size is not properly utilized.... It does not suite to the size of our navy.... Lets see how fast Project 18 becomes a reality....

 

[Fifa124]

Great news... NILGIRI class is one hell of a warship.... with China continuously increasing 52/55 nos and Pakistan adding new warships and submarines this was much needed addition to Indian navy.... Hope they will be armed with 900 km range Brahmos....

Actually I never understand the indian navy requirements.

Indian naval warships are having less fire power compared to their sizes.

Most disappointment to see the kamorta class ship - with the such size can be performed more than anti submarine role.

Indian army seems focus more on endurance in sea than fire power

So it's official that the P17B frigates will be joining the P17A frigates, making it a total of 15 multi-role frigates armed with 448 Barak 8 missiles. Adding these to the P15A/B destroyers gives a total of 704 Barak 8 missiles, which will be backed up by VL-SRSAM for the second layer of defense. A contract for 6 NGMVs was signed last year by the GOI, and hopefully, a contract for 8 NGCs will be done by 2025. This will seriously boost our anti-air capabilities. Meanwhile, 4 Tushil-class frigates are getting ready for delivery to the IN.

India to finally get its new stealth frigate 'Tushil', crew of about 200 carrying out acceptance trials

India in 2016 inked inter-governmental agreement with Russia for 4 frigates, a follow-on of Talwar-class vessels. Contract was signed in 2018. The 2nd could be delivered in 2025.

theprint.in

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

So it's official that the P17B frigates will be joining the P17A frigates, making it a total of 15 multi-role frigates armed with 448 Barak 8 missiles. Adding these to the P15A/B destroyers gives a total of 704 Barak 8 missiles, which will be backed up by VL-SRSAM for the second layer of defense. A contract for 6 NGMVs was signed last year by the GOI, and hopefully, a contract for 8 NGCs will be done by 2025. This will seriously boost our anti-air capabilities. Meanwhile, 4 Tushil-class frigates are getting ready for delivery to the IN.

India to finally get its new stealth frigate 'Tushil', crew of about 200 carrying out acceptance trials

India in 2016 inked inter-governmental agreement with Russia for 4 frigates, a follow-on of Talwar-class vessels. Contract was signed in 2018. The 2nd could be delivered in 2025.

theprint.in

A fresh batch of indian ships will be added to the Indian navy in next 3-5 years

The current or upcoming three to four years would see the same number of Pakistani front ships total available. The Indian Navy will get the same number of ships and firepower in the coming years that the PN will have by including old and new.

It also means the firepower of the Indian Navy will grow significantly.

 

[kmc_chacko]

So it's official that the P17B frigates will be joining the P17A frigates, making it a total of 15 multi-role frigates armed with 448 Barak 8 missiles. Adding these to the P15A/B destroyers gives a total of 704 Barak 8 missiles, which will be backed up by VL-SRSAM for the second layer of defense. A contract for 6 NGMVs was signed last year by the GOI, and hopefully, a contract for 8 NGCs will be done by 2025. This will seriously boost our anti-air capabilities. Meanwhile, 4 Tushil-class frigates are getting ready for delivery to the IN.

India to finally get its new stealth frigate 'Tushil', crew of about 200 carrying out acceptance trials

India in 2016 inked inter-governmental agreement with Russia for 4 frigates, a follow-on of Talwar-class vessels. Contract was signed in 2018. The 2nd could be delivered in 2025.

theprint.in

Its not only about increasing fire power but also increasing ability/capacity of dockyards to build heavier warship at good pace, initially only one dockyard was building Destroyers or Frigates now all the important dockyards including private docks are given orders to build larger capital ships.

 

[Magadh]

A fresh batch of indian ships will be added to the Indian navy in next 3-5 years

The current or upcoming three to four years would see the same number of Pakistani front ships total available. The Indian Navy will get the same number of ships and firepower in the coming years that the PN will have by including old and new.

It also means the firepower of the Indian Navy will grow significantly.

Naval Airforce of India will be bigger than entire Pakistan Airforce equipped with Rafales and TEDBF

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

that not going to happen, but IN will have around 70-80 aircraft
in their inventory, if they induct 3rd aircraft carrier than might will go up to 120 approx

Naval Airforce of India will be bigger than entire Pakistan Airforce equipped with Rafales and TEDBF

 

[Magadh]

that not going to happen, but IN will have around 70-80 aircraft
in their inventory, if they induct 3rd aircraft carrier than might will go up to 120 approx

Yes, but those fighter jets will be Rafales and TEDBF, not outdated F-16s, JF-17s, Mirages 3 or 5, or J-7s which the Pakistan Air Force operates. That's why I said the Indian Naval Air Force will be bigger than the PAF.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Yes, but those fighter jets will be Rafales and TEDBF, not outdated F-16s, JF-17s, Mirages 3 or 5, or J-7s which the Pakistan Air Force operates. That's why I said the Indian Naval Air Force will be bigger than the PAF.

can't say outdated.

F16 block 50 is a very decent aircraft that can threat to any.

Jf17 block 3 is also not bad with ASEA radar and BVR with 160 km

 

[kmc_chacko]

Yes, but those fighter jets will be Rafales and TEDBF, not outdated F-16s, JF-17s, Mirages 3 or 5, or J-7s which the Pakistan Air Force operates. That's why I said the Indian Naval Air Force will be bigger than the PAF.

What ? how can you compare IN Air arm with PAF ? if you had compared Pakistan Navys airwing with Indian Navy's Air Arm then yes we are better equipped and larger in size.

IN also has outdated 50+ Mig-29Ks and Rafales are under negotiation it will take another 20-36 months to induct it, even if we sign it by end of this year.

TEDBF - have you seen it ?

 

[Magadh]

What ? how can you compare IN Air arm with PAF ? if you had compared Pakistan Navys airwing with Indian Navy's Air Arm then yes we are better equipped and larger in size.

IN also has outdated 50+ Mig-29Ks and Rafales are under negotiation it will take another 20-36 months to induct it, even if we sign it by end of this year.

TEDBF - have you seen it ?

The TEDBF can be powered by either two GE-F404 engines, the French M88 engine, or an improved Kaveri engine. Therefore, I am confident it won't face delays like the Tejas MK1A, which only has one engine option, the GE-F404.