Rafale M Deal: India and France to Fast-Track Negotiations After Elections

[Deino]

…will also be available in 5 years

Again, do it. Then we can talk … or since how many years the same peoples tell us what will be in x years and still nothing happend?

And the funniest part of your fan-boy claim is, that since how many years is India desperately trying to develop an UAV at least comparable to the good old Predator let alone anything more sophisticated and now your are buying for a heavy price tag Reapers in the US and still try to claim from CAD to service you will get an autonomous UCAV ready???

Really, try harder

 

[Harbyharb]

By the way CATS warrior and Manned Unmanned Teaming will also be available in 5 years

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796150330410905744

A company might make an air intake
"INDIAN LOYAL WINGMAN DRONES IN 5 YEARS!!!"

 

[panzerfaust 3]

I have to admit the PAF has surpassed the Bharati aviation in planning and execution by a large margin. One is imagining to get ready for the 6th gen air warfare, and the other is dreaming of fighting back both China and Pakistan with the Rafales....

Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein

Maybe you should also try to surpass us in economic development! That would really be something

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Again, do it. Then we can talk … or since how many years the same peoples tell us what will be in x years and still nothing happend?

And the funniest part of your fan-boy claim is, that since how many years is India desperately trying to develop an UAV at least comparable to the good old Predator let alone anything more sophisticated and now your are buying for a heavy price tag Reapers in the US and still try to claim from CAD to service you will get an autonomous UCAV ready???

Really, try harder

Again, do it. Then we can talk … or since how many years the same peoples tell us what will be in x years and still nothing happend?

And the funniest part of your fan-boy claim is, that since how many years is India desperately trying to develop an UAV at least comparable to the good old Predator let alone anything more sophisticated and now your are buying for a heavy price tag Reapers in the US and still try to claim from CAD to service you will get an autonomous UCAV ready???

Really, try harder

Thanks for Your Concern

We will keep trying

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

A company might make an air intake
"INDIAN LOYAL WINGMAN DRONES IN 5 YEARS!!!"

Yes it is definitely possible in 5 years

I will keep you posted

 

[Yasser76]

Peer level of air force? How many twin-engine fighters does the PAF operate compared to the IAF's fleet that includes Su-30MKI, Rafale, MiG-29, and Mirage 2000? How many transport aircraft like the C-17 Globemaster III, C-130J Super Hercules and C-295 does the PAF have, compared to the extensive transport fleet of the IAF? Does the PAF have vertical lift helicopters like the Chinook, advanced multi-role helicopters like the Dhruv, or the extensive Mi-17 fleet operated by the IAF?

How many dedicated SIGINT and ELINT aircraft does the PAF operate, similar to the Gulfstream III SRA and Boeing 707 ELINT in the IAF? What modern generation surface-to-air missile systems does the PAF have comparable to the IAF's Barak 8, SPYDER, S-400, Akash, and indigenous BMD systems? What tactical ballistic and cruise missiles like Pralay, BrahMos, Rudram, and Rampage does the PAF have in its arsenal?

What is the combat radius of PAF fighters like the JF-17 and F-16 in comparison to the IAF’s Su-30MKI, Rafale, MiG-29UPG, Tejas, and Mirage 2000? Do PAF aircraft have specialized EW suites like the SPECTRA on the Rafale and D-29 on the MiG-29UPG in the IAF? Does the PAF operate its own BVRAAMs like the IAF's Astra, and what advanced BVRAAMs do they use?

Peer level is not just a list of equipment (in which case Saudi Air Force would match IDF), it is capability. PAF has always managed to hod it's own in every conffrontation with IAF. In the most recent it bested the IAF on Feb 2019.

You mange to list a lot of kit, but the most recent confontation saw a combination of PAF AWAC, EW, Smart bombs and BVR missiles beat the IAF.

Right now I would argue the PAF matches IAF in many capabilities (like BVR, EW air refueeling), surupasses IAF in many areas (UCAVs and AEW assets) and possibly lags the IAF in some areas. In terms of training, I would put PAF at least a decade ahead too.

 

[panzerfaust 3]

As long as PDM government stays in power
We don't have to do anything

They will declare Bankruptcy before they get hands on any J31CE

PAF took a 12 yr loan to buy 25 J10CE

Pakistan already owes China 40 billion USD

They are not getting any free loans before the previous loans are paid off

The people that you are addressing don't really understand economics!
They think that Pakistan has actually oneupped india because of their planning and professionalism
They don't understand the aren't able to pay the INF back, they are destroying their economic base and somehow think they are winning the war
We both know they have already lost

 

[Yasser76]

The people that you are addressing don't really understand economics!
They think that Pakistan has actually oneupped india because of their planning and professionalism
They don't understand the aren't able to pay the INF back, they are destroying their economic base and somehow think they are winning the war
We both know they have already lost

Remember Indians saying this 10 years ago. Despite all this, PAF set to induct 5th Gen in a few years as IAF stays with 4th Gen. Riddle me that....

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Peer level is not just a list of equipment (in which case Saudi Air Force would match IDF), it is capability. PAF has always managed to hod it's own in every conffrontation with IAF. In the most recent it bested the IAF on Feb 2019.

You mange to list a lot of kit, but the most recent confontation saw a combination of PAF AWAC, EW, Smart bombs and BVR missiles beat the IAF.

Right now I would argue the PAF matches IAF in many capabilities (like BVR, EW air refueeling), surupasses IAF in many areas (UCAVs and AEW assets) and possibly lags the IAF in some areas. In terms of training, I would put PAF at least a decade ahead too.

Next Time please Don't close the Air Space for FIVE months

Pakistan reopens airspace after India standoff

Pakistan shut its airspace in February amid tensions following clashes with India.

www.google.com

 

[Yasser76]

Next Time please Don't close the Air Space for FIVE months

Pakistan reopens airspace after India standoff

Pakistan shut its airspace in February amid tensions following clashes with India.

www.google.com

Next time send better pilots.

 

[Cryptonian]

Peer level is not just a list of equipment (in which case Saudi Air Force would match IDF), it is capability. PAF has always managed to hod it's own in every conffrontation with IAF. In the most recent it bested the IAF on Feb 2019.

You mange to list a lot of kit, but the most recent confontation saw a combination of PAF AWAC, EW, Smart bombs and BVR missiles beat the IAF.

Right now I would argue the PAF matches IAF in many capabilities (like BVR, EW air refueeling), surupasses IAF in many areas (UCAVs and AEW assets) and possibly lags the IAF in some areas. In terms of training, I would put PAF at least a decade ahead too.

Pakistan has been defeated in multiple wars by India and it also lost its other half. Yet you keep harping about one single skirmish, about which your parliamentarian said that your top General was trembling by the thought of a long drawn war.

 

[Yasser76]

Pakistan has been defeated in multiple wars by India and it also lost its other half. Yet you keep harping about one single skirmish, about which your parliamentarian said that your top General was trembling by the thought of a long drawn war.

No, try not to change the subject. The debate (if you can keep up with it) was on peer level air forces. 5 years ago, PAF used data links, EW, AEW, BVR, guided bombs and advanced tactics to keep IAF at bay, shoot down an IAF aircraft and bomb Indian bases. That is an example of a peer level air force. Can you understand that?

 

[Cryptonian]

No, try not to change the subject. The debate (if you can keep up with it) was on peer level air forces. 5 years ago, PAF used data links, EW, AEW, BVR, guided bombs and advanced tactics to keep IAF at bay, shoot down an IAF aircraft and bomb Indian bases. That is an example of a peer level air force. Can you understand that?

You were able to throw GBU from your own territory like a coward because our SAMs and CAP fighters were ordered to not escalate and only engage if Pakistani fighters cross the LOC.
Now go ask Gaffoor who was the second pilot he kept talking about even after 1 week of skirmish.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1762450440103584006

 

[Yasser76]

You were able to throw GBU from your own territory like a coward because our SAMs and CAP fighters were ordered to not escalate and only engage if Pakistani fighters cross the LOC.
Now go ask Gaffoor who was the second pilot he kept talking about even after 1 week of skirmish.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1762450440103584006

Oh here we go, its the conspiracy theories again..... nice try....

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

We must ALL collectively Pray to GOD almighty, for a War Soon

So that we can settle this IAF Vs PAF debate

This debate has been going on for 5 years , very sad thing

It is time for Closure