The next Pakistani Government should seek good relations with neighbors, especially India

[Sharma Ji]

Prof. Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed urges the next Pakistani Government which would be a coalition most probably led by Shehbaz Sharif to let go ideological fixation and in the best national interest of Pakistan seek good relations with Pakistan's neighbours, especially India.

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[Nester]

India is following a de-hyphenation policy vis-a-vis Pakistan. India does not want to escalate conflict but Indian foreign ministry has no intention of promoting trade or cultural relations with Pakistan.

We want the world to not associate India with Pakistan. It is not suitable for an upcoming global power to be assosicted with Pakistan, it damages India's image.

So it is not in the hands of Pak govt or establishment to improve relations with India. The only thing they can do is to promote hostility or have no relations.

 

[Krptonite]

India is following a de-hyphenation policy vis-a-vis Pakistan. India does not want to escalate conflict but Indian foreign ministry has no intention of promoting trade or cultural relations with Pakistan.

We want the world to not associate India with Pakistan. It is not suitable for an upcoming global power to be assosicted with Pakistan, it damages India's image.

So it is not in the hands of Pak govt or establishment to improve relations with India. The only thing they can do is to promote hostility or have no relations.

Thats a very short sighted view.

Global power is primarily more about geography than any other factors and geography is immutable, no way around it

India can not be an effective superpower while simultaneously investing significant resources to secure its borders. Without peace at our borders our capability is severely hampered. We would have to achieve our goals despite challenges wheres long term peace removes those challenges entirely

Peace with Pakistan frees our resources significantly. Theres no changing that fact. So long as that remains true, one would not be surprised to see genuine peace initiatives reciprocated

 

[Wood]

Neither India nor Pakistan need a status quo change in the current relationship. Peaceful relations is a nice to have, but impractical given the impasse between both side on Kashmir

 

[Nester]

Thats a very short sighted view.

Global power is primarily more about geography than any other factors and geography is immutable, no way around it

India can not be an effective superpower while simultaneously investing significant resources to secure its borders. Without peace at our borders our capability is severely hampered. We would have to achieve our goals despite challenges wheres long term peace removes those challenges entirely

Peace with Pakistan frees our resources significantly. Theres no changing that fact. So long as that remains true, one would not be surprised to see genuine peace initiatives reciprocated

de-hyphenation mesns peace. Peace without engaging economically, culturally or socially. India does not want war. India wants Pak to remain stable, because if Pak collapses we might have a refugee crisis on our hands.

 

[Nester]

Neither India nor Pakistan need a status quo change in the current relationship. Peaceful relations is a nice to have, but impractical given the impasse between both side on Kashmir

Kashmir has FINALLY been connected to rest of India by railway. This will boost both tourism and trade. It is very difficult to conduct trade using only road transport as it's very expensive. Trains are many times cheaper.

This effectively means tht many industries which were not profitable in Kashmir earlier would now be profitable. I can see rapid industralisation of the valley in next 10 years. https://www.hindustantimes.com/life...onnectivity-announcement-101684321735367.html

 

[PakAl]

Rail network to reach up to LoC, says Ashwini Vaishnaw

Railway Minister Ashwini Vaishnaw said today that Kashmir’s railway connectivity with the rest of the country will be increased, extending up to the LoC.

www.thehindu.com

As Pak is incapable of providing Pakistan Azaad Kashmir with a railway network, India should connect GB & Pakistan Azaad Kashmir to the coast via Indian railways. Those poor people have seen no economical progress for decades.

Pakistan Kashmir is rich, we have schools, colleges, universities, hospitals, roads even in the mountains, our literacy rate is the highest in all of Pakistan, Big jobs are mainly in the cities because we live on mountains.

 

[hembo]

Thats a very short sighted view.

Global power is primarily more about geography than any other factors and geography is immutable, no way around it

India can not be an effective superpower while simultaneously investing significant resources to secure its borders. Without peace at our borders our capability is severely hampered. We would have to achieve our goals despite challenges wheres long term peace removes those challenges entirely

Peace with Pakistan frees our resources significantly. Theres no changing that fact. So long as that remains true, one would not be surprised to see genuine peace initiatives reciprocated

My two cents:

1. In current scenario, India and Global/Superpower should not be uttered together at all. Everyone should just keep focusing on the job in hand and keep working diligently on their respective fields.
2. Lasting peace between India & Pakistan cannot be achieved in the near future for various reasons. The best we can expect for now is status quo and revisit the subject after a decade or so.
3. If we really want to expedite things, solving border dispute with China should take utmost priorities. It has multi-prong benefits, which I will not elaborate here. Special & rapid Task force with sharp people with give and take policy needed to accomplish any breakthrough here. Status quo here is not acceptable. And they are also ripe and ready for it, IMHO.
4. Ease of doing business, be it manufacturing or trading, is still abysmal in India. If we really want to reduce the trade gap with others, especially China, we need to make things more transparent here. Barely relying on remittance to make up for the deficit simply won't work. We need to make things at a breakneck speed if we want to run rather than the crawling we are doing currently.

 

[Developereo]

India is following a de-hyphenation policy vis-a-vis Pakistan. India does not want to escalate conflict but Indian foreign ministry has no intention of promoting trade or cultural relations with Pakistan.

I wish Pakistani leaders would listen to this reality and follow the same policy.

Time after time, Pakistani leaders including Imran Khan, keep begging India for friendship. They get kicked in the teeth but they keep coming back, begging, begging for India to be friends and do trade.

It has not penetrated their septuagenarian brain that the India of today is not the India of 1947. The society and mindset is completely different, especially anyone under 40.

Pakistan has failed to tap into the enormous trade potential of the MENA, LATAM, Far East, the West, etc, etc, etc. but they dream the dream fantastic that rivers of milk and honey will flow if only Pakistan trades with India.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Prof. Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed urges the next Pakistani Government which would be a coalition most probably led by Shehbaz Sharif to let go ideological fixation and in the best national interest of Pakistan seek good relations with Pakistan's neighbours, especially India.

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Every country has its share of short sighted fools; Pakistanis don't want anything to do with fascist states like India where they massacre dalits, christians, sikhs and muslims every other day. Stay away India and keep your cowla bad habits to yourself.

 

[Hmmmm]

Prof. Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed urges the next Pakistani Government which would be a coalition most probably led by Shehbaz Sharif to let go ideological fixation and in the best national interest of Pakistan seek good relations with Pakistan's neighbours, especially India.

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IMHO the next Pakistan Government should, in the best national interest of Pakistan seek good relations with Pakistan's own citizens first rather then worry about India.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

I wish Pakistani leaders would listen to this reality and follow the same policy.

Time after time, Pakistani leaders including Imran Khan, keep begging India for friendship. They get kicked in the teeth but they keep coming back, begging, begging for India to be friends and do trade.

It has not penetrated their septuagenarian brain that the India of today is not the India of 1947. The society and mindset is completely different, especially anyone under 40.

Pakistan has failed to tap into the enormous trade potential of the MENA, LATAM, Far East, the West, etc, etc, etc. but they dream the dream fantastic that rivers of milk and honey will flow if only Pakistan trades with India.

On the contrary, Pakistan follows a different approach. They are not begging for a good relationship with India, not even Imran Khan he practically did irreparable damage to the relation than military leadership could've done and if that was your aim, you should be thanking Imran Khan. In hindsight, he also damaged your relationship with most of your allies. Remember how Imran's dilly-dallying with the Saudis caused India to seize the opportunity?

Pakistan's policy as far as from an Indian point of view is negotiating a trade route to Central Asia and maybe Europe if India is willing to cede Kashmir. Indian leaders in the past stupidly thought it was an issue of water and agriculture that's why the leaders in the past put up with an unfavorable treaty of 80-20 water sharing with Pakistan. But the current leadership sees it as irredentism and chooses to ignore it altogether.

Pakistan's problems are structural, warming up relationships with neighbours/enemies won't solve the immediate crisis.

 

[Developereo]

Imran Khan he practically did irreparable damage to the relation than military leadership could've done and if that was your aim, you should be thanking Imran Khan. In hindsight, he also damaged your relationship with most of your allies. Remember how Imran's dilly-dallying with the Saudis caused India to seize the opportunity?

Imran Khan inherited a Pakistan which had formed 70 years of slave-master relationship with almost every other country. He offered a different vision, one which aimed to serve the country's interests instead of the politician or military dictator's personal post-retirement plans.

It was impossible that he could rectify the rot of 70 years and he failed, predictably, backstabbed by the same corrupt system. The Saudis, the Americans and everyone else would have none of it and he was replaced by the trusty old slaves.

What kind of imbecile ignores India's actions on Kashmir and turns a blind eye to the fact that India is actively engaged in anti-Pakistan lobbying around the world in almost every forum, in every context?

I know. The selfish elites who don't give a damn about Pakistan but will do anything to help their personal business empires. This nonsense about trade with India is part and parcel of the same policy where the primary beneficiaries will be these selfish elites.

 

[Nester]

On the contrary, Pakistan follows a different approach. They are not begging for a good relationship with India, not even Imran Khan he practically did irreparable damage to the relation than military leadership could've done and if that was your aim, you should be thanking Imran Khan. In hindsight, he also damaged your relationship with most of your allies. Remember how Imran's dilly-dallying with the Saudis caused India to seize the opportunity?

Pakistan's policy as far as from an Indian point of view is negotiating a trade route to Central Asia and maybe Europe if India is willing to cede Kashmir. Indian leaders in the past stupidly thought it was an issue of water and agriculture that's why the leaders in the past put up with an unfavorable treaty of 80-20 water sharing with Pakistan. But the current leadership sees it as irredentism and chooses to ignore it altogether.

Pakistan's problems are structural, warming up relationships with neighbours/enemies won't solve the immediate crisis.

Pakistan's problem is overpopulation leading to an economic, political, water and agricultural crisis/shortage. No one can fix that. Right now, India should just maintain it's distance and let China exploit Pakistan fully. CPEC has already made next two generations economic slaves, things will only get worse from here.

 

[Musings]

@Nester

Pakistan didnt want to be a part of India a long time ago. A nation one seventh the size of India has kept them at bay comfortably.
This thread isnt here to give you an opportunity to introduce words like "begging for peace" and other soft trolling remarks.
Stop the immature behaviour - another crappy post and you will be banned and have to go in your cave to rapidly create a new ID - save yourself the trouble and grow up......