The way forward for Muslim countries

[fitpOsitive]

Dear Muslims of the world.
We saw how the world is silent over the massacre of Muslims in Kashmir, Bosnia, and now Palestine. But Muslims are boiling inside out no matter what their nationalities are. We can curse Muslim rulers but the truth is, we don't have enough control over the financial system(national or international). The whole of the monetary show is being run by either the USA or Europe. No matter what we do or what we achieve, in the end, we will be standing on the doorsteps of Kuffars and begging for more money.

The biggest leap that we should take is to make our own financial system. No matter how poor it is, the next step will be to make it as perfect as possible. And then we should uproot all that comes in our way. But this we can't achieve unless we have a powerful financial system that is standing behind Islamic forces.

That's the only way forward. And if we achieve that, we will be able to handle the post-US-dollar era too, a big humanitarian crisis. So to save this world, this step is very necessary too.

 

[fitpOsitive]

یہود کی جان سود میں ہے۔ اگر یہود کو شکست دینی ہے تو سود ختم کردو۔ ایک دم جیسے جان سی نکل جائے گی۔

 

[VCheng]

And if we achieve that

And just what are the practical steps needed to do what you propose that will make "our own financial system"?

 

[r3alist]

And just what are the practical steps needed to do what you propose that will make "our own financial system"?

Well that's what you start threads for, to discuss these things.

 

[VCheng]

Well that's what you start threads for, to discuss these things.

Of course. One would have hoped that the OP saw it fit to share their thoughts on the topic first. Perhaps you might care for that too?

 

[r3alist]

Of course. One would have hoped that the OP saw it fit to share their thoughts on the topic first.

He literally did that, hence you responded to the op.

 

[VCheng]

He literally did that, hence you responded to the op.

He literally did not. He expressed a goal:

The biggest leap that we should take is to make our own financial system. No matter how poor it is, the next step will be to make it as perfect as possible. And then we should uproot all that comes in our way. But this we can't achieve unless we have a powerful financial system that is standing behind Islamic forces.

.. but ZERO practical steps to make it a reality.

Where do you, or anyone else, think this process should start?

 

[r3alist]

He literality did not. He expressed a goal:



.. but ZERO practical steps to make it a reality.

Where do you, or anyone else, think this process should start?

You went from asking about "sharing thoughts", which is literally what the op did to seemingly wanting a full technical document fleshed out for your critique.


That is not useful or helpful, it's just called moving the goal posts, the op was obviously introducing the notion, not explaining the mechanics of it. I know you must know this, but alas I am saying it just to be sure.

 

[VCheng]

You went from asking about "sharing thoughts", which is literally what the op did to seemingly wanting a full technical document fleshed out for your critique.


That is not useful or helpful, it's just called moving the goal posts, the op was obviously introducing the notion, not explaining the mechanics of it. I know you must know this, but alas I am saying it just to be sure.

Ah, so it was a "notion". But still no practical steps to make said nation a reality. Let's move the discussion forward, if you so care about the topic and not me.

 

[r3alist]

Ah, so it was a "notion". But still no practical steps to make said nation a reality. Let's move the discussion forward, if you so care about the topic and not me.

I care to some minor extent that discussion is not stifled, belittled and undermined due to artificially imposed "standards" and requirements.

It's a discussion forum.

 

[VCheng]

I care to some minor extent that discussion is not stifled, belittled and undermined due to artificially imposed "standards" and requirements.

It's a discussion forum.

Of course, I am trying to encourage the discussion here. What practical steps would help realize the notion presented by the OP? Please suggest some. Thanks.

 

[Oscar]

Of course, I am trying to encourage the discussion here. What practical steps would help realize the notion presented by the OP? Please suggest some. Thanks.

The last time it was attempted - it was immediately lost to personal greed and then some a.k.a BCCI - a lot of good people good got swept up in that along with their accounts.

 

[VCheng]

The last time it was attempted - it was immediately lost to personal greed and then some a.k.a BCCI - a lot of good people good got swept up in that along with their accounts.

Premature buildings on immature foundations In my view.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Premature buildings on immature foundations In my view.

I have some thoughts but I really don't want to share that on this forum as on this forum we have more enemies than friends.
The biggest hurdle that I am facing my background. It's like I know something is wrong and how it may be corrected but I don't know how different parts and steps work.

@VCheng
@r3alist
You both guys have a valid points. Not need to fight. You guys call me names, no worries, but please keep in mind:

1) I don't know the intermediate steps, because my background is not commerce.
2) I will not share steps here, even if I know them.

 

[r3alist]

@fitpOsitive I didn't call you names, I encourage the discourse.