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US and its partners would find an emboldened, nuclear-powered Iran extremely difficult to stop​


By S. Paul Kapur

The horrors of Hamas’ attacks on Israel have refocused the world’s attention on the primitive savagery of Islamist terrorism. But to protect against this threat, we must address a problem at the other end of the technological spectrum: the danger of a nuclear Iran.

Iran played a central role in the Israel attacks, providing crucial material and political support to Hamas. Currently, Iran-backed Hezbollah is engaging Israel from the north, complicating Israeli operations in Gaza. Meanwhile, Iranian proxies launch attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria.

Today’s Iran, armed only with conventional weapons, is aggressive and dangerous. But tomorrow’s Iran will become even more so if it realizes its long-standing ambition to develop nuclear weapons.

Iran military parade


An Iranian military truck carries surface-to-air missiles past a portrait of Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, during a parade in Tehran on April 18, 2018. (Atta Kenare/AFP via Getty Images)
A nuclear Iran’s likely strategy is not a mystery. For a preview, we need only revisit the behavior of nuclear-armed Pakistan.


Following its birth in 1947, Pakistan sought to wrest the territory of Kashmir from India, causing decades of bloody conflict. When Pakistan acquired nuclear weapons in the late 1990s, it redoubled its efforts to take Kashmir with a combination of proxy and regular military forces, confident that its nuclear shield would limit Indian retaliation.

The result was even greater conflict than before, including India and Pakistan’s first war in 28 years. Since then, the dispute has ground on, with periodic eruptions of violence killing thousands of Indians and threatening to trigger a larger war.


A nuclear Iran would take a page from Pakistan’s playbook. Iran would deploy its proxies across the Middle East more aggressively than before, using regular military forces where necessary, insulated from retaliation.

The United States and its partners would find such an emboldened Iran extremely difficult to stop. The result would be further violence against Israel, and more bloodshed and instability in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq, which could spiral into regional war.

As the Pakistan case makes clear, a nuclear-armed Iran would be exceptionally dangerous. What does Pakistan suggest the United States and its partners should do about the menace of a nuclear Iran?



First, Pakistan reminds us not to ignore the seriousness of the Iranian nuclear problem. When India and Pakistan acquired nuclear weapons in the late 1990s, many experts underestimated the danger, believing that nuclear weapons would deter violence and stabilize South Asia.

But in fact, nuclear Pakistan became bolder and more aggressive. Similarly, nuclear weapons will embolden, rather than moderate, the behavior of a nuclear Iran.

Second, Pakistan shows that the U.S. must not inadvertently support the bad Iranian behavior that it wishes to oppose. During the War on Terror, the United States gave Pakistan tens of billions of dollars in aid, even as the Pakistanis continued to support proxy groups, including Lashkar-e-Toiba and the Taliban, in South Asia and Afghanistan.


Similarly, U.S. policy toward Iran has often supported rather than stymied Tehran’s nuclear efforts. For example, the Obama administration’s nuclear agreement with Iran, known as JCPOA, sought to restrict Iran’s nuclear program, but afforded Tehran access to over $100 billion in previously frozen assets, as well as a lax inspection regime.

Under the Biden administration, the United States has allowed Iran to pocket tens of billions of dollars in oil revenues ostensibly forbidden by economic sanctions. The administration also has made billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets available to the mullahs in exchange for the release of American prisoners.



Such cooperative policies provide Iran with the time and resources it needs to advance its nuclear ambitions. A return to the "maximum pressure" of the Trump administration’s sanctions regime wouldn’t end Iran’s nuclear program. But aggressive sanctions would at least increase the economic headwinds for Iran, undermining its nuclear efforts.

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We also should be willing to use tailored force to set back Iran’s nuclear program. Slowing Iran’s progress can buy time while we wait for more moderate leadership, or possibly regime change, in Tehran. Even the most ossified dictatorships don’t last forever.

Third, Pakistan shows that we must devise military strategies to resist Iran if it becomes a nuclear power. India, through calibrated military operations, has retaliated against Pakistan in a number of instances, including a high-intensity campaign in the mountains of Kashmir following the two countries’ nuclear tests.


India continues to develop strategies to punish Pakistan without triggering nuclear war. These measures haven’t ended Pakistani provocations. But they have demonstrated Indian resolve and shown that Pakistan will pay a price for masterminding regional violence.

We should devise similarly calibrated military strategies to impose costs on Iran without triggering all-out conflict. Even if we succeed, such strategies will make a bad situation only a little better. But as India learned with nuclear Pakistan, if Iran manages to get nuclear weapons, a little better may be the best we can do.

 
One more proof. They only respect strength. These Zionist Christians fear the ultimate weapon. He admits that going all out against a nuclear Pakistan would be terrible. He is right about that.

As for American ally India, they cannot possibly think going all out against Pakistan. The Americans and Indians cannot do an Iraq with Pakistan.
 
One more proof. They only respect strength. These Zionist Christians fear the ultimate weapon. He admits that going all out against a nuclear Pakistan would be terrible. He is right about that.
Do you realise that the US has been at war with Russia in Syria and then Ukraine for more than 5 years now.

That is (still, 30 years on from SALT I and II)over 10,000 nukes aimed at each other.

You think they will bat an eyelid about Pakistan?

Cheers, Doc
 
Do you realise that the US has been at war with Russia in Syria and then Ukraine for more than 5 years now.

That is (still, 30 years on from SALT I and II)over 10,000 nukes aimed at each other.

You think they will bat an eyelid about Pakistan?

Cheers, Doc

You didn't read the article? It is all about Iran and Pakistan. Clearly your American Zionist Christian friends understand the implications of a nuclear Pakistan. I am glad they do.

The American Zionist Christian author is correct with regards to limited possibilities against Pakistan. The US has limited options. Just like India has limited options against Pakistan. Nuclear weapons play a major role.
 
Do you realise that the US has been at war with Russia in Syria and then Ukraine for more than 5 years now.

That is (still, 30 years on from SALT I and II)over 10,000 nukes aimed at each other.

You think they will bat an eyelid about Pakistan?

Cheers, Doc
Proxy wars aren't the same as threatening each others territorial integrity.
 
You didn't read the article? It is all about Iran and Pakistan. Clearly your American Zionist Christian friends understand the implications of nuclear Pakistan. I am.glad they do.
I need an article to tell me, after 15 years on defence forums, including America war vet ones, that your nukes only ensure you cannot be conquered?

Not prevent you from getting killed. As a spot on earth.

Cheers, Doc
 

US and its partners would find an emboldened, nuclear-powered Iran extremely difficult to stop​


By S. Paul Kapur

The horrors of Hamas’ attacks on Israel have refocused the world’s attention on the primitive savagery of Islamist terrorism. But to protect against this threat, we must address a problem at the other end of the technological spectrum: the danger of a nuclear Iran.

Iran played a central role in the Israel attacks, providing crucial material and political support to Hamas. Currently, Iran-backed Hezbollah is engaging Israel from the north, complicating Israeli operations in Gaza. Meanwhile, Iranian proxies launch attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria.

Today’s Iran, armed only with conventional weapons, is aggressive and dangerous. But tomorrow’s Iran will become even more so if it realizes its long-standing ambition to develop nuclear weapons.

Iran military parade


An Iranian military truck carries surface-to-air missiles past a portrait of Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, during a parade in Tehran on April 18, 2018. (Atta Kenare/AFP via Getty Images)
A nuclear Iran’s likely strategy is not a mystery. For a preview, we need only revisit the behavior of nuclear-armed Pakistan.


Following its birth in 1947, Pakistan sought to wrest the territory of Kashmir from India, causing decades of bloody conflict. When Pakistan acquired nuclear weapons in the late 1990s, it redoubled its efforts to take Kashmir with a combination of proxy and regular military forces, confident that its nuclear shield would limit Indian retaliation.

The result was even greater conflict than before, including India and Pakistan’s first war in 28 years. Since then, the dispute has ground on, with periodic eruptions of violence killing thousands of Indians and threatening to trigger a larger war.


A nuclear Iran would take a page from Pakistan’s playbook. Iran would deploy its proxies across the Middle East more aggressively than before, using regular military forces where necessary, insulated from retaliation.

The United States and its partners would find such an emboldened Iran extremely difficult to stop. The result would be further violence against Israel, and more bloodshed and instability in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq, which could spiral into regional war.

As the Pakistan case makes clear, a nuclear-armed Iran would be exceptionally dangerous. What does Pakistan suggest the United States and its partners should do about the menace of a nuclear Iran?



First, Pakistan reminds us not to ignore the seriousness of the Iranian nuclear problem. When India and Pakistan acquired nuclear weapons in the late 1990s, many experts underestimated the danger, believing that nuclear weapons would deter violence and stabilize South Asia.

But in fact, nuclear Pakistan became bolder and more aggressive. Similarly, nuclear weapons will embolden, rather than moderate, the behavior of a nuclear Iran.

Second, Pakistan shows that the U.S. must not inadvertently support the bad Iranian behavior that it wishes to oppose. During the War on Terror, the United States gave Pakistan tens of billions of dollars in aid, even as the Pakistanis continued to support proxy groups, including Lashkar-e-Toiba and the Taliban, in South Asia and Afghanistan.


Similarly, U.S. policy toward Iran has often supported rather than stymied Tehran’s nuclear efforts. For example, the Obama administration’s nuclear agreement with Iran, known as JCPOA, sought to restrict Iran’s nuclear program, but afforded Tehran access to over $100 billion in previously frozen assets, as well as a lax inspection regime.

Under the Biden administration, the United States has allowed Iran to pocket tens of billions of dollars in oil revenues ostensibly forbidden by economic sanctions. The administration also has made billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets available to the mullahs in exchange for the release of American prisoners.



Such cooperative policies provide Iran with the time and resources it needs to advance its nuclear ambitions. A return to the "maximum pressure" of the Trump administration’s sanctions regime wouldn’t end Iran’s nuclear program. But aggressive sanctions would at least increase the economic headwinds for Iran, undermining its nuclear efforts.

Brig. Gen. Robert Spalding: We need to recognize we're at war with Iran're at war with Iran

We also should be willing to use tailored force to set back Iran’s nuclear program. Slowing Iran’s progress can buy time while we wait for more moderate leadership, or possibly regime change, in Tehran. Even the most ossified dictatorships don’t last forever.

Third, Pakistan shows that we must devise military strategies to resist Iran if it becomes a nuclear power. India, through calibrated military operations, has retaliated against Pakistan in a number of instances, including a high-intensity campaign in the mountains of Kashmir following the two countries’ nuclear tests.


India continues to develop strategies to punish Pakistan without triggering nuclear war. These measures haven’t ended Pakistani provocations. But they have demonstrated Indian resolve and shown that Pakistan will pay a price for masterminding regional violence.

We should devise similarly calibrated military strategies to impose costs on Iran without triggering all-out conflict. Even if we succeed, such strategies will make a bad situation only a little better. But as India learned with nuclear Pakistan, if Iran manages to get nuclear weapons, a little better may be the best we can do.

I think it's a failure in Irans part to not have actually created these weapons yet.
 
I need an article to tell me, after 15 years on defence forums, including America war vet ones, that your nukes only ensure you cannot be conquered?

Not prevent you from getting killed. As a spot on earth.

Cheers, Doc

You should by all means try to conquer Pakistan. Try and see what happens. I would rather pay good attention to the American Zionist Christian author. He makes some good suggestions for India. Don't screw with a nuclear Pakistan.  Yes, Pakistan is emboldened and confident despite all sorts of challenges. It is because we are a nuclear power. Absolutely no doubt about it.

The moment Pakistan became nuclear you guys lost a great deal of power. You won't admit it because you are stubborn, but you know the truth.

I think it's a failure in Irans part to not have actually created these weapons yet.

Major failure. The American author is exactly making the case from preventing Iran becoming a nuclear power.
 
You should by all means try to conquer Pakistan. Try and see what happens. I would rather pay good attention to the American Zionist Christian author. He makes some good suggestions for India. Don't screw with a nuclear Pakistan. 



Major failure.
Sigh.

Again the chest thumping.

Read what I said.

US. NOT India.

The US can touch you. Intimately. And there is nothing you can do about it.

This is not about conquering boots on the ground forces. This is about the final solution.

Cheers, Doc
 
Sigh.

Again the chest thumping.

Read what I said.

US. NOT India.

The US can touch you. Intimately. And there is nothing you can do about it.

This is not about conquering boots on the ground forces. This is about the final solution.

Cheers, Doc

The US tried for 20 years in Afghanistan. Take a deeper sigh. Don't mention nor hide behind the US though. You are after all the enemy and the real target. India cannot hide behind the US to tackle Pakistan. Papa America is back to square one after the exit from Afghanistan.

Just like you the US has limited options with regards to Pakistan. We know why CENTCOM and others are holding meetings with the Pakistani COAS.

Also don't forget that when it comes to India and Pakistan there is also China. If you have the US on your side we have China.
 
S Paul Kapur writing on Fox News :ROFLMAO: , wah re uparwale tere karname

Why does this article feel like, someone wants to legitimize a nuclear Iran?
 
The US tried for 20 years in Afghanistan. Take a deeper sigh.
Bro, the US was your FRIEND then.

Their most important non NATO ALLY.

Cheers, Doc
 
Bro, the US was your FRIEND then.

Their most important non NATO ALLY.

Cheers, Doc

Welcome to realpolitik. Friends change.

By the way, the US was never a friend of Pakistan. It was an alliance of convenience.
 
Welcome to realpolitik. Friends change.

And so do enemies.

Anyways, this thread is about Iran. But nukes will open a new Pandora's box for them.

It then legitimises a decapitating overwhelming first strike. One which Iran will not emerge from.

Cheers, Doc
 

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