USA: The Decaying Empire

[StraightEdge]

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Child molestation plea nets US soldier suspended sentence, Eighth Army says

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[dbc]

So why is this news discussion worthy? Are you surprised paedophiles exist in America?
Was the sentence too severe? Not harsh enough?
I don’t get why you posted this news?

 

[VCheng]

This thread presents a counterpoint to the Team USA thread.

All posts MUST follow forum rules and basic standards of decency and logic. NO EXCEPTIONS.

 

[VCheng]

Child molestation plea nets US soldier suspended sentence, Eighth Army says

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USA: The Decaying Empire

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[KingQamaR]

The history teaches us that every big power/ country has "shelf time" (old Persia, Babylon, Egypt...). Nowadays, UK is insignificant, EU is sinking & becoming poor... Everyone knows that the same thing will happen to USA... however, I did NOT expect it will happen so quickly.

 

[VCheng]

The history teaches us that every big power/ country has "shelf time" (old Persia, Babylon, Egypt...). Nowadays, UK is insignificant, EU is sinking & becoming poor... Everyone knows that the same thing will happen to USA... however, I did NOT expect it will happen so quickly.

Of course. Just like all those before it, USA's dominance will pass. It is only a matter of time. How long that takes remains to be seen, but I take it that you are saying that it has already happened?

 

[Developereo]

The history teaches us that every big power/ country has "shelf time" (old Persia, Babylon, Egypt...). Nowadays, UK is insignificant, EU is sinking & becoming poor... Everyone knows that the same thing will happen to USA... however, I did NOT expect it will happen so quickly.

All empires must surely end but I would replace the UK in your example with the Roman Empire.

I am not a history expert but most previous empires either succumbed militarily or became irrelevant due to external powers. The only exception I know of is the Roman Empire which died primarily because of internal decay.

It is unlikely that any country will surpass the US militarily or technologically in the near future. The Chinese are impressive and may even surpass the US in some technical fields, but their superiority will not be at dominance level. In any case, the US will take down the world militarily before relinquishing its dominance. Hum to dubenge sanam, ...

The threat to US dominance, therefore, comes from within: income divides, ethnic divides, ideological divides, etc. None of these are at anywhere near crisis level, but all divides exacerbate when the economy fails. However, when the US economy falls to that level, the rest of the world won't be looking pretty either. Ironically, the US desire to decouple with China may be the best gift the US ever gave to China.

 

[KingQamaR]

Of course. Just like all those before it, USA's dominance will pass. It is only a matter of time. How long that takes remains to be seen, but I take it that you are saying that it has already happened?

There's this very interesting British documentary that I watched back in 2016 on YT that is called hyper-normalisation. It basically describes what is happening right now in the US to this day, which Its sad for who? because I wish what was covered in the documentary wasn't coming to fruition but unfortunately, it is. People over in US are seeing the collapse happening all around them and guess what people are doing? Just continuing to go to work and distract themselves with their daily routines like nothing major is happening at all. Its the fall of the Soviet union all over again, only now its there turn...

 

[VCheng]

However, when the US economy falls to that level, the rest of the world won't be looking pretty either.

Who quipped that "when the US sneezes, the world catches a cold"?

 

[VCheng]

guess what people are doing? Just continuing to go to work and distract themselves with their daily routines like nothing major is happening at all.

May be they know that what is being direly described is not like that at all?

 

[KingQamaR]

All empires must surely end but I would replace the UK in your example with the Roman Empire.

I am not a history expert but most previous empires either succumbed militarily or became irrelevant due to external powers. The only exception I know of is the Roman Empire which died primarily because of internal decay.

It is unlikely that any country will surpass the US militarily or technologically in the near future. The Chinese are impressive and may even surpass the US in some technical fields, but their superiority will not be at dominance level. In any case, the US will take down the world militarily before relinquishing its dominance. Hum to dubenge sanam, ...

The threat to US dominance, therefore, comes from within: income divides, ethnic divides, ideological divides, etc. None of these are at anywhere near crisis level, but all divides exacerbate when the economy fails. However, when the US economy falls to that level, the rest of the world won't be looking pretty either. Ironically, the US desire to decouple with China may be the best gift the US ever gave to China.

If we’re being honest the Uk actually did quite well pulling off a surprisingly gentle fall from the top to the Roman Empire mayhem demise.

We should have said that about China not USA alone. Both country’s sneezes are contagious.

 

[Developereo]

If we’re being honest the Uk actually did quite well pulling off a surprisingly gentle fall from the top to the Roman Empire mayhem demise.

The UK's slide was cushioned by the fact that the successor, USA, started out as UK-lite and they are still so close.
I wonder how the world would look if the USA had formed from Spanish colonies.

P.S. I do remember some historian (Niall Ferguson?) compared North and South American culture and claimed that American success is due to the Protestant work ethic. Interesting analysis...

We should have said that about China not USA alone. Both country’s sneezes are contagious.

Indeed. One from the supply side and one from the demand.

 

[VCheng]

If we’re being honest the Uk actually did quite well pulling off a surprisingly gentle fall from the top to the Roman Empire mayhem demise.

We should have said that about China not USA alone. Both country’s sneezes are contagious.

No doubt, China is a manufacturing powerhouse with a huge influence in world trade.

 

[KingQamaR]

The UK's slide was cushioned by the fact that the successor, USA, started out as UK-lite and they are still so close.
I wonder how the world would look if the USA had formed from Spanish colonies.

P.S. I do remember some historian (Niall Ferguson?) compared North and South American culture and claimed that American success is due to the Protestant work ethic. Interesting analysis...



Indeed. One from the supply side and one from the demand.

I always wondered too if, given enough time , Native Americans would develop into and what kind of this North Anerica country would be like today?

They regret thanksgiving that’s for sure.

 

[VCheng]

I always wondered too if, given enough time , Native Americans would develop into and what kind of this North Anerica country would be like today?

They regret thanksgiving that’s for sure.

A North American equivalent of Wakanda? Unlikely.