Why Iran never retaliates

The way things are unfolding , it is highly likely that Israel after finishing with Hezbolla might go after Iran.

This whole thing (in totality) is a unfinished project of West (Britain and France, as they were the powers back then) around World War 1 time somewhere. Even the US has done a exercise (a retired Army general in 2006 or around)on re-drawing of Middle Eastern map, that extends up to Pakistan even.

People seem to think its for Oil but Oil is just 'finder's keeper's' stuff, the real aim is power and influence.



One has to perhaps say that, certain Middle Eastern nations might be supporting this whole thing. At least those who benefit from all this shake up.
Hi,

The "Christians" want their holy sites back in possession---.

The israelis are their henchmen---. Once Israel takes over completely---"the christians" will wipe out the jews and take total control---.

The christians just don't want a direct clash with the muslims when they can have the jews do the work for them---.
 
I believe that the Iranian civilian population would not commit to being attacked by Israel if allowed to vote on it
That we do not know, many in Iran are pro-Palestinian and are supportive of their actions against Israel. What is holding Iran back is it actually does not have clear cut reasons to retaliate in the conventional sense as they have let their own red lines become so blurred. We saw when Israel attacked their Embassy there was a direct Iranian response.
if they drag their society into a destructive war with Israel, merely to pursue Hamas goal of pushing the Jews into the sea.
That is your view, but I dont think they have a view to push jews into the sea, the second largest Jewish population in the ME is in Iran if they were so intolerant of Jews, the jews there would have left long ago. Iranian foreign policy from what I can see is to help create an independent Palestinian state through armed resistance. Israel can actually easily stop this by abiding by the numerous UN resolutions, withdraw to the 1967 borders let Jerusalem become a shared capital the west bank and gaza part of the Independent Palestinian state. All muslim countries would recognise Israel, which would force Iran to as well.
 
Hi,

The "Christians" want their holy sites back in possession---.

The israelis are their henchmen---. Once Israel takes over completely---"the christians" will wipe out the jews and take total control---.

The christians just don't want a direct clash with the muslims when they can have the jews do the work for them---.
MastanKhan, Sir! Brillant analysis. The Christians are always looking for an excuse to wipe out the Jews. If they can get back the Church of the Nativity, so much the better. Then they (the Christians) can sit there and fight the Muslims and restore their honor stolen by Saladin!!
 
All muslim countries would recognise Israel, which would force Iran to as well.


There would be no support in BD for example to recognise a Zionist entity that still controls 78% of Palestine. This is a land theif that has committed genocide and massacres throughout the decade.

If the Palestininians want to make peace with the entity that is the right as an occupied eople but no Muslim country should follow and rewards the entity for stealing 78% of it. Entity needs to be destroyed in due course and the region brought back under sole Muslim control.
 
There would be no support in BD for example to recognise a Zionist entity that still controls 78% of Palestine. This is a land theif that has committed genocide and massacres throughout the decade.

If the Palestininians want to make peace with the entity that is the right as an occupied eople but no Muslim country should follow and rewards the entity for stealing 78% of it. Entity needs to be destroyed in due course and the region brought back under sole Muslim control.
Hamas were willing to recognise Israel if they withdrew to 1967 borders. If the Palestinians at large are happy with this arrangement, the muslim world should support it. Israel does not have an excuse then about its security.
 
Israel can actually easily stop this by abiding by the numerous UN resolutions, withdraw to the 1967 borders let Jerusalem become a shared capital the west bank and gaza part of the Independent Palestinian state. All muslim countries would recognise Israel, which would force Iran to as well.
Israel does not believe that the Muslims that hold the ideology of Hamas and Hezbollah will ever let Jews live in peace, even if it were within the pre=1967 borders. Just read the vitriol on this forum about never, ever allowing Jews in the Middle East and you will see why the Israelis do not trust the outcome you postulate. After all, the Jews left Gaza, and the Palestinians turned it into a staging ground for ceaseless attacks on Israel rather than making it into a successful economic and cultural example of Palestinian rule and intentions.
 
Hamas were willing to recognise Israel if they withdrew to 1967 borders. If the Palestinians at large are happy with this arrangement, the muslim world should support it. Israel does not have an excuse then about its security.


No, no, no.

Like I say Palestinians are the ONLY ones with the right to recognise this entity as they are occupied.

Rest of Muslim world pretends it still does not exist.

When the time is right it gets destroyed. Need the Zio-US to no longer dictat around the world.

Saladdin is a legend as that is the mentality he had and traitors will always be humiliated by history.
 
Your opinion is worthless as the KSA armed forces are also worthless with more money spent on it than the rest of the region combined. They should be a regional superpower with some of the best weapons that money can buy like F-15s and Typhoons and so should have no need to be afraid of Iran which does not even have a modern airforce.

KSA citizens simply would not fight for the Saudi ruling dictatorship and they are kept hostage with the support of the US/west. Ruling regime knows this and that is why they beg the US for "security guarantees".

There is no consensual "social contract" but one of let us rule or else we will torture and kill you, as happens to any dissenters to Saudi regime. Look what they did to that journalist in their embassy on Turkey some years ago.

Improve the quality of your posts if you want me to reply to you in future.
Another example of hypocrisy - my opinion is worthless but yours and that Iranians opinion on what KSA should be doing has worth?

The amount of bullshit (or lies) being put out on what KSA needs to do, and whether KSA citizens are happy or not, is on another level, particularly when coming from citizens of countries which are not even close to providing the health, peace and prosperity that KSA provides its citizens.

Either way, glad to see UAE and KSA becoming dynamic global hubs, attract global talent, become even more prosperous and continue to outpace Iranians and their jihadi ilk.
 
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I am starting to believe that there is some backdoor deals between US and Iran, that's why Iran rat's out these leaders, once the top leadership of Hamas and Hezbullah are dead Iran will bring new leaders and the cycle continue, with every attack by these resistance group Israel will kill more civilians and make their life hell ultimately forcing people to just leave the Palestine. And Arabs who are right now living a luxurious life style are nothing but bidding their time sooner or later the flames of war will reach their capitals and by then it will be too late, Israel's recent pager attacks showed how easily it is for them to rig a tiny device turning into a lethal weapon, imagine what will happen to the Arab leaders if they ever dare to go against the will of their masters.
 

Israel Has Called Iran’s Bluff​

Story by Arash Azizi

Israel Has Called Iran’s Bluff

Israel Has Called Iran’s Bluff© Morteza Nikoubazl / NurPhoto / Getty

At the center of current conflicts in the Middle East is a long-running staring contest between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. And Netanyahu seems to have calculated that, even if Israel moves ferociously against Khamenei’s so-called Axis of Resistance—the region-wide network of militias arrayed against Israeli and Western interests—Khamenei won’t do much in response.

Yesterday, Israel’s attacks on the southern suburbs of Beirut killed Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah’s leader since 1992. That was only the latest in a dramatic series of strikes this month, including a sci-fi-esque operation using exploding pagers, that have killed high-ranking commanders of the Lebanese militant group and hundreds of Lebanese civilians. Hezbollah has been widely viewed as the most significant nonstate threat to Israel. Nasrallah was easily the most powerful operative in Iran’s Axis.

Hamas is also part of that Axis. And ever since the July 31 assassination of the Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, many in the Middle East have been bracing for an Iranian attack on Israel that could plunge the region into a broad war. But the response hasn’t come. Ultimately, Tehran decided against risking a major escalation with Israel. Khamenei has maintained his policy of “strategic patience,” slowly building militias surrounding Israel on all sides without getting into a direct confrontation.

Whether Nasrallah’s death will alter Khamenei’s cautious approach seems questionable. A statement yesterday from the Iranian embassy in Beirut claimed that the “rules of the game” had now changed, and threatened Israel with “appropriate punishment and discipline.” Predictably, the hard-liner mouthpiece Kayhan, whose history includes praise for Adolf Hitler and insistent Holocaust denial, declared today, “Israel has dug its own graves; now go ahead and bury its corpse.”

But officials in Tehran have been notably more reticent. Several simply pointed out, after yesterday’s strike but before Nasrallah’s death was confirmed, that whenever Hezbollah’s commanders are killed, they’ll be replaced with others. This was the position taken by Ahmad Vahidi, the founding head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force, who helped build Hezbollah into the formidable force it is today. Tehran has deep-seated reasons for showing restraint in recent weeks—reasons that still hold no matter how egregious it views the killing of Nasrallah to be.

First, Iran’s options for retaliation against Israel are very limited, and it can’t bring about much damage there without risking a destruction of Iranian infrastructure that might take decades to rebuild.

Second, Iran has been trying for months to ease tensions and pursue talks with other countries in the region and with the West. This past week in New York, on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly, a visiting Iranian delegation headed by President Masoud Pezeshkian defended Hezbollah and Hamas but put its main focus on giving out peace vibes. Pezeshkian even told a group of American journalists that Iran would put down its arms if Israel also did so. Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi later denied that the president had made such a statement, but Iranian hard-liners leaked audio that confirmed it.

Araghchi himself is spreading the message that Iran wants the international community to stop Israel from broadening the conflict. Araghchi said on X that he had warned, in a meeting earlier this week with his British counterpart, David Lammy, that “Israeli attacks must cease immediately to avoid unprecedented risk of all-out catastrophe in region.” In Tehran on Tuesday, Pezeshkian’s spokesperson, Fatemeh Mohajerani, likened the recent attacks against Hezbollah to Israel’s war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. She called on the UN Security Council to “intervene to prevent catastrophes like Gaza and Rafah in Lebanon.”

Such calls for measured action by the global community sound quite different from the stance taken by Hezbollah’s deputy leader, Naim Qassem, who last week warned that the group’s war with Israel had entered “a new phase of limitless settling of accounts.” Tehran isn’t Hezbollah. Although Pezeshkian had claimed on CNN that Hezbollah was unable to defend itself “on its own,” seemingly promising Iran’s entry into the conflict, his foreign minister essentially corrected that statement. Addressing reporters on Wednesday morning, Araghchi promised that Hezbollah “makes its own decisions and is fully capable of defending itself, Lebanon, and the people of Lebanon on its own.”

This is another way of saying that Iran doesn’t intend to rush to Hezbollah’s defense. Iran’s Lebanese allies are on their own. Javad Zarif, Tehran’s favorite English-speaking messenger who now serves as a vice president, repeated the same talking points on CNN on Thursday.

Iranian hard-liners are incensed at this attitude. Even before Nasrallah’s death, Iran’s political debate was starting to resemble the period from 2013 to 2021, when the centrist President Hassan Rouhani’s negotiations with the United States and other countries in the West led to a backlash in Iran. Earlier this week, one commentator accused Pezeshkian’s government of abandoning Hezbollah and claimed that if Iran didn’t respond to the attacks on Lebanon, Israel would attack Tehran next.

A centrist outlet responded by criticizing “extremists who always want to drum up tensions.” The anti-retaliation case was put forward most explicitly by Mohammad Khajoee, the head of the Lebanon section at a top Tehran think tank and a former Beirut bureau chief for Iran’s main news agency. In an article on Thursday in a reformist-leaning daily, he argued that “Iran must not enter itself into a military conflict with Israel. It must quickly find a way for Hezbollah to save face and leave this recent war, without suffering more damage.” Iran, Khajoee wrote, “must convince Hezbollah to finish its clashes with Israel and go back to pre–October 7 conditions.” Khajoee even criticized Hamas for getting Iran and the Axis into a war they hadn’t prepared for.

What Iran does next is up to Khamenei. The supreme leader has not given up on his decades-long crusade against the West, Israel, and his own people’s insufficient purity. But he has understood that intransigence could prove self-destructive for his regime and is thus putting out feelers for negotiations with the West that could help lift sanctions and stabilize the country. His open support for Pezeshkian limits the gambit of hard-liners, who are also hated by much of the Iranian population and even by many in the establishment.

In Tehran, many are cautiously hoping for a new era of talks with the West. A prominent Iranian diplomatic correspondent expressed the hope this week that negotiations with European countries to revive the Barack Obama–era Iranian nuclear deal and lift sanctions will soon resume, perhaps to be followed by discussions with the United States after the November presidential election.

But what if Tehran’s reticence tempts Israel into continuing its battering of Hezbollah? Netanyahu might feel that he has called Khamenei’s bluff and can now march on further, thereby keeping his fractious right-wing coalition happy and intact. The Axis might then increase its pressures on Tehran to get into the ring. Already, Yemen’s Houthis and Iraqi militias have fired salvos in Hezbollah’s defense.

Still, an uneasy equilibrium has been kept so far, preventing a full-on war between Israel and Iran. Israel would do well to take Nasrallah’s death as a resounding win against the Axis and use the occasion to wind down the wars against Hezbollah and Hamas. If there was ever a time for Israel to pursue peace with its neighbors from a position of strength, this is it.
 

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Israel does not believe that the Muslims that hold the ideology of Hamas and Hezbollah will ever let Jews live in peace, even if it were within the pre=1967 borders. Just read the vitriol on this forum about never, ever allowing Jews in the Middle East and you will see why the Israelis do not trust the outcome you postulate. After all, the Jews left Gaza, and the Palestinians turned it into a staging ground for ceaseless attacks on Israel rather than making it into a successful economic and cultural example of Palestinian rule and intentions.
Jews lived with muslims for hundreds if not over a 1000 years in relative peace. Its was the white Europeans who carried out their pogroms and mass killing of jews. There is no ideology that you speak of apart from one of freedom from occupation and tyranny. Every people deserve to live free and not under occupation. If Israel is not willing to go back to 1967 borders or accept palestinians as its citizens then the war will not end until one side loses completely. That long term is not good for Israel.
 
No, no, no.

Like I say Palestinians are the ONLY ones with the right to recognise this entity as they are occupied.

Rest of Muslim world pretends it still does not exist.

When the time is right it gets destroyed. Need the Zio-US to no longer dictat around the world.

Saladdin is a legend as that is the mentality he had and traitors will always be humiliated by history.
What I am saying will not come to pass, mainly because the zionists will not give up any land, infact they want to take more. Its for this reason the wars will go on until the zionists are crushed. The Palestinians I believe would settle for 1967 borders if given the choice now.
 
What I am saying will not come to pass, mainly because the zionists will not give up any land, infact they want to take more. Its for this reason the wars will go on until the zionists are crushed. The Palestinians I believe would settle for 1967 borders if given the choice now.

Israel has offered mainstream Fatah group in early 2000s pretty much that - whole of Gaza, 95% of West Bank with status of Jerusalem up for negotiations. the offer won't apply for groups like the Hamas for good reason
 
Israel has offered mainstream Fatah group in early 2000s pretty much that - whole of Gaza, 95% of West Bank with status of Jerusalem up for negotiations. the offer won't apply for groups like the Hamas for good reason
They didnt that as a made up myth during camp david. What was being offered was not a viable state and the Israelis wanted large parts of the west bank, not allowing Palestinians to return to their own state.
 

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