Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Dalit]

I won't post the entire garbage Indian propaganda piece, but the Indians aren't shying away from sharing their insecurities and butthurt to the rest of the world. The desperation is extreme.

LOL

"India will thus have to get creative in managing Pakistan. India's grievances are real and pressing, but as of now, there are few takers for them. Apart from shoring up its own security, New Delhi will need to expend more effort in public relations and media engagement to put forth its own narrative firmly. The ignorance around the world on the Kashmir issue, for instance, is mind-boggling. Pakistan is a rogue neighbour that cannot be wished away. India's task is to rein it in not just in its own neighbourhood, but also on the global stage."

The Indians aren't able to convince the rest of the world to take a stand against Pakistan. The Indians still believe that if they try harder and get creative they can convince the entire universe to isolate and punish Pakistan LOL There is so much butthurt.

 

[PK781]

That so-called restraint shown is resulting in all this.......wish they had actually finished the fucking job than to kick the can down the road.....

 

[Dalit]

That so-called restraint shown is resulting in all this.......wish they had actually finished the fucking job than to kick the can down the road.....

Imagine an enemy so desperate it must confess its failures to the entire world. It’s nothing but a barrage of excuses. For all the chest thumping and bravado, they have failed at their singular, self subscribed goal of isolating and admonishing their enemy Pakistan.

 

[FuturePAF]

I won't post the entire garbage Indian propaganda piece, but the Indians aren't shying away from sharing their insecurities and butthurt to the rest of the world. The desperation is extreme.

LOL

"India will thus have to get creative in managing Pakistan. India's grievances are real and pressing, but as of now, there are few takers for them. Apart from shoring up its own security, New Delhi will need to expend more effort in public relations and media engagement to put forth its own narrative firmly. The ignorance around the world on the Kashmir issue, for instance, is mind-boggling. Pakistan is a rogue neighbour that cannot be wished away. India's task is to rein it in not just in its own neighbourhood, but also on the global stage."

The Indians aren't able to convince the rest of the world to take a stand against Pakistan. The Indians still believe that if they try harder and get creative they can convince the entire universe to isolate and punish Pakistan LOL There is so much butthurt.

Pakistan’s best counter to India’s efforts, in a sustainable manner, regardless of who is in other nation’s governments, is simply to grow the economy faster than India.

In a sense Pakistan’s leaders poor decisions over the past decades, have made India look like a better market for returns, and foreign investors want returns and to support whatever government gives them that, consistently, for decades to come.

 

[Dalit]

Pakistan’s best counter to India’s efforts, in a sustainable manner, regardless of who is in other nation’s governments, is simply to grow the economy faster than India.

In a sense Pakistan’s leaders poor decisions over the past decades, have made India look like a better market for returns, and foreign investors want returns and to support whatever government gives them that, consistently, for decades to come.

Despite India having an economic edge, it still believes that it must completely isolate Pakistan worldwide to claim victory. India wants the world to sever economic, diplomatic and all other relations with Pakistan. It even wants the world to treat Pakistan like an Indian colony. Yet, the rest of the world sees Pakistan as a completely separate, independent and sovereign nation.

 

[Goenitz]

It is just one part of the matrix. We are lacking in other indicators.
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If our BP is right, it doesn't mean we are not suffering from lung, kidney, and liver issues.

 

[Goenitz]

Though I will be happy if we can restore UAE relations with us and with the rest of the neighbours.

 

[delta2]

Pakistan’s best counter to India’s efforts, in a sustainable manner, regardless of who is in other nation’s governments, is simply to grow the economy faster than India.

In a sense Pakistan’s leaders poor decisions over the past decades, have made India look like a better market for returns, and foreign investors want returns and to support whatever government gives them that, consistently, for decades to come.

In all honesty though, the Pakistani firms were shadow banned from getting contracts during the "War of Terror" days. So much so that many ended up setting up offices in places like Dubai etc in order to stay in business, in the long run ending up benefitting the UAE a lot more than Pakistan. Some packed up and just left.

But the mismanagement of the past 70+ years didn't help either because there was no system ever built from ground up to help Pakistan survive through a storm like the War of Terror.

But those days are behind now.

But even currently, you have low life street criminal, drug mafia types put into positions of power masquerading as presidents and prime ministers and leaders, so it really still is a mess and a garbage show.

 

[delta2]

In all honesty though, the Pakistani firms were shadow banned from getting contracts during the "War of Terror" days. So much so that many ended up setting up offices in places like Dubai etc in order to stay in business, in the long run ending up benefitting the UAE a lot more than Pakistan. Some packed up and just left.

But the mismanagement of the past 70+ years didn't help either because there was no system ever built from ground up to help Pakistan survive through a storm like the War of Terror.

But those days are behind now.

But even currently, you have low life street criminal, drug mafia types put into positions of power masquerading as presidents and prime ministers and leaders, so it really still is a mess and a garbage show.

But the point is that the Brahmins, the Hindutvadis, the Indians grossly overestimate themselves. They only reproduce like rabbits but that is more of a liability than an asset because there are about 800 MILLION Indians on the brink of starvation.

If they think automation killed off jobs in North America/West, they have no idea what will happen when the next phase of automation, which more correctly will be "automaton-ization" coupled with next-gen AI of everything even in the underdeveloped countries arrives.

As said earlier, should have killed off all of their Rafale. But no, someone had the "keera" of palying "gentleman". These idiots sometimes boil blood because of their stupidities.

 

[Watandar]

Heavy copium from Indian media. The west was praising them day and night for the last 20 years as part of a courtship and it really went to these Indian heads. They have been cut down to size in the last 12 months lol.

 

[delta2]

Heavy copium from Indian media. The west was praising them day and night for the last 20 years as part of a courtship and it really went to these Indian heads. They have been cut down to size in the last 12 months lol.

The Anglo-Saxon ruling classes LOVE their horses and LOVE horse racing and would spend any amount of wealth on their horses and breeding programs. But if a horse loses a race or is even slightly injured, they put it down without hesitation and do not forgive any disappointments or failures. They do the same with their beloved dogs and do not hesitate to put them down to "end their suffering". The Indians let them down big time and disappointed them. The Indians do realize this. This is why the Indians will regroup, get all the help they can get, and launch another attack. It is only a matter of time.

 

[FuturePAF]

Despite India having an economic edge, it still believes that it must completely isolate Pakistan worldwide to claim victory. India wants the world to sever economic, diplomatic and all other relations with Pakistan. It even wants the world to treat Pakistan like an Indian colony. Yet, the rest of the world sees Pakistan as a completely separate, independent and sovereign nation.

They are not wrong, that if Pakistan can be isolated like North Korea, especially if it becomes basically an economic non-entity, India by contrast will have a global economic lobby that will have governments around the world siding with them.

Even with North and South Korea, where the economic contrast is very stark, North Korea has a utility to its partner nations and finds a way to come out of this. But granted survival is not enough.

So for the love of God and frankly their own future prosperity, Pakistani authorities need to take this moment of Pakistani relevance in the global discourse to change its economic track. Part of this requires political stability at home to boost FDI confidence (if you know what I’m indicating) but it also involves using all leverage to hold the Iran deal together and leverage Pakistan’s military prowess to become equipped and economically funded to become the guardian of the deal/the new Middle East status quo.

Vis a vi D.I.M.E. We need to sustain the diplomatic push to a finish line, attract FDI and cheap oil/gas to industrialize, leverage the military to guard the peace, and grow the economy in a broad way, that has middle class growth sustain economic development, even through the inevitable boom bust cycles over the next 30-50 years, our demographic window. If we do this we can grow faster than India on an annual rate, because we are less developed than them, and draw on global attention to help solve our diplomatic issues vis a vi the Indus water treaty or militants based out of Afghanistan.

Otherwise, if India keeps growing and gap becomes so wide, even Pakistani partners may become reluctant to side with Pakistan over an ever growing Indian market, and Pakistani leaders may have to second addresses in bunkers near Islamabad-Rawalpindi area, akin to Iranian and North Korea leadership.