Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Meengla]

We may perish, but Pakistan will always be there and none will be able to harm this great country.

I am trying to understand the ongoing discussions in Turkey between Pakistan and Afghanistan. But can't believe how unreasonable the Taliban are!! All Pakistan wants from them is leave Pakistan alone! No territorial claims by Pakistan on Afghanistan. No desire to inflict pain on Afghanistan--on the contrary. But so far the Afghan delegation's demands are like:

No written guarantee that Afghan soil would not be used against Pakistan.
Allow free movement of people across the border
Can't declare the Pakistani Taliban as terrorists
Don't deport Afghan refugees from Pakistan
Give us recognition, billions of Rupees then we might think of action against terrorists.

OMG, they don't even have the intelligence for self survival! But it looks like even Irshad Bhatti has enough of this! What an electric speech!! English captions available.

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[Master Chief]

I am trying to understand the ongoing discussions in Turkey between Pakistan and Afghanistan. But can't believe how unreasonable the Taliban are!! All Pakistan wants from them is leave Pakistan alone! No territorial claims by Pakistan on Afghanistan. No desire to inflict pain on Afghanistan--on the contrary. But so far the Afghan delegation's demands are like:

No written guarantee that Afghan soil would not be used against Pakistan.
Allow free movement of people across the border
Can't declare the Pakistani Taliban as terrorists
Don't deport Afghan refugees from Pakistan
Give us recognition, billions of Rupees then we might think of action against terrorists.

OMG, they don't even have the intelligence for self survival! But it looks like even Irshad Bhatti has enough of this! What an electric speech!! English captions available.

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Sir, there is little confusion here. They are simple pawns of Hindustan who demand what they are told to demand.

 

[Meengla]

Sir, there is little confusion here. They are simple pawns of Hindustan who demand what they are told to demand.

An 'Afghan' is always someone's 'pawn': Their 'communist' top leadership wanted the Soviets to invade. Their 'democrats' wanted America to stay for as long as possible. Their 'Muslim' Taliban were taking bribes from the occupying Americans to let American troops through--the same troops which were bombing and killing the Taliban and other Afghans.
Now, the so-called 'Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan' is willing to concede Kashmir to India, willing to take $1 billion from India to inflict pain on Pakistan.
Afghanistan is not a 'nation'. It is really a resource starved region in every sense of the word and being a 'whore' best describes their leadership. But worse than that there are those God Damn ethnic politicians who provide the oxygen to such elements in Pakistan to regain power!!

 

[Master Chief]

An 'Afghan' is always someone's 'pawn': Their 'communist' top leadership wanted the Soviets to invade. Their 'democrats' wanted America to stay for as long as possible. Their 'Muslim' Taliban were taking bribes from the occupying Americans to let American troops through--the same troops which were bombing and killing the Taliban and other Afghans.
Now, the so-called 'Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan' is willing to concede Kashmir to India, willing to take $1 billion from India to inflict pain on Pakistan.
Afghanistan is not a 'nation'. It is really a resource starved region in every sense of the word and being a 'whore' best describes their leadership. But worse than that there are those God Damn ethnic politicians who provide the oxygen to such elements in Pakistan to regain power!!

Sadly, it is worse than you think. "Liberalised" Pakistani diaspora in UK and USA are entirely confused in their conjecture, interpretation, and determination of facts.

Many of the peers I grew up and studied with have fallen for the typical narrative regarding Pakistan without giving due consideration to  why western media always pushes this agenda.

Truly they are beyond recourse when they sit in their social media groups barking that "Pakistan is a sell out, Pakistan has locked up its true elected representative, Pakistan is a dictatorship". They close their eyes and cover their ears when confronted with actual facts on the ground regarding the impact of the divisive rhetoric that you speak of. They don't pause to consider that the nation state of Pakistan simply must not be permitted to fall, regardless of liberal opinions about our methodologies. They don't seem to acknowledge that without Pakistani national stability, this land mass will simply become another Syria or Iraq. Perhaps they will actually be happy then, sitting in foreign lands comfortably while their ancestral homes burn and their relatives live in subservience to hindutva demands.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Sadly, it is worse than you think. "Liberalised" Pakistani diaspora in UK and USA are entirely confused in their conjecture, interpretation, and determination of facts.

Many of the peers I grew up and studied with have fallen for the typical narrative regarding Pakistan without giving due consideration to  why western media always pushes this agenda.

Truly they are beyond recourse when they sit in their social media groups barking that "Pakistan is a sell out, Pakistan has locked up its true elected representative, Pakistan is a dictatorship". They close their eyes and cover their ears when confronted with actual facts on the ground regarding the impact of the divisive rhetoric that you speak of. They don't pause to consider that the nation state of Pakistan simply must not be permitted to fall, regardless of liberal opinions about our methodologies. They don't seem to acknowledge that without Pakistani national stability, this land mass will simply become another Syria or Iraq. Perhaps they will actually be happy then, sitting in foreign lands comfortably while their ancestral homes burn and their relatives live in subservience to hindutva demands.

These types will only realise what they have done if Pakistan falls and we all have to roam the world like stray dogs. It has happened to many nations.

We will never truly understand the psyche of such filth. They would prefer to be at the feet of Indians or whoever listens to them than work together to become a strong civilization and a great power.

 

[krash]

The COAS being a Hafiz himself and in the military barracks Quranic verses are read to motivate the soldiers and the masses but actual Islam is not implemented in the country. Kya ye khula tazad nahi? The army should transform itself from a Colonial Western force to an Islamic army that fights for ideology and not for monetary gain. We are offering our services to Saudi Arabia and the UN as fighters for financial benefit. This is the root cause of the present conflict which is not being addressed properly. Previously, we sided with the US and NATO against the Taliban and earned billions of dollars and even sold the Ambassador of Afghanistan to America. If we implement Islam in Pakistan then the fight with TTP and Afghanistan would be over in one day. Afghanistan would become our trusted ally and we can truly become a regional power. If we continue the present course then we will be mired in endless conflict and will remain a beggar nation. But do we need an NOC from Washington for this?

Implemented Islam? Which Islam exactly would it be that would get the TTP to back off?

Even a simple villager anywhere in the Muslim World knows who is fighting for Islam and who is scared of Western and Zionist powers.

Right....

@RescueRanger this guy needs to be checked. Most probably a dormant false flagger. 1643 posts since 2009. At best he's an idiot.

Well the PMLN is doing the same in Punjab terming all Pakistani Pashtuns as Afghans and they have invented new slure for them "Afghandu"

Yeah? Where? Show us.

I will hold you to this until you show it.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

No surprise.....

BREAKING: Pakistan, Taliban officials clash | Istanbul Talks collpased​

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[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Last Afgans = Last Hanumans = Last line of offense for the Ram Rajya of Hindutva Bharat

What If Pakistan-Afghan Taliban Talks Fail? Syed Muhammad Ali’s Shocking Analysis​

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[Oscar]

Another one of Imran Khan’s questionable appointments. He has developed a pattern of placing incompetent individuals in key positions, leading to repeated failures, Asad Umar, Buzdar, Gandapur and now afridi....the list keeps growing

Because IK is a cricketer.
What is a successful cricketer apart from being a “gut instinct” operator?
They are showmen.. the wave to the crowd, the promise to hit a 6 on the last ball.
Bringing in a chum to ball even after their first overs were full of wides and NBs
Etc

When you bring that same mentality into governance you can expect the same type of results.

 

[Meengla]

Last Afgans = Last Hanumans = Last line of offense for the Ram Rajya of Hindutva Bharat

What If Pakistan-Afghan Taliban Talks Fail? Syed Muhammad Ali’s Shocking Analysis​

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Good video. Plus this one. Far better analyses than 'we are killing our own to please America' BS shoved down our throats for a quarter century!!

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[Oscar]

Is he, as a CM of a major province of KPK, and 2 court orders from senior judges as well, allowed to meet Imran Khan ?

Was CM KP the one who claimed Atta tartar is a terrorist sympathizer , funder and a terrorist ? Or was it the other way around ?

He asked PM to let him meet IK, he brought 2 court orders as well. State have given him shup up call on all occasions. State have actively presented him as a terrorist, terrorist sympathizer and what not.

Now why would you expect betterment from such a person who state is saying is the worst ?

Then the state is right isn’t it?
If meeting IK is his only metric to launch onto a “hum idhar, tum udhar” mentality then the state is correct and IK put the wrong person in charge.

Instead of talking a unified language and addressing everyone - other than TLP he hasn’t bothered to really show party leadership and instead is focusing on KP. That is fine, great job but then when talking to “hamaray log” he is clearly putting the division between PTI KP and PTI overall.

 

[RealNapster]

Then the state is right isn’t it?

If the state is in a habit of pushing it's citizens to the brink and then destroy them when these citizens retaliate. Then of course the state is right on the spot. It should keep continue what it is doing. Doesn't matter if it's Bengalis, mujeeb, AQ Khan, IK, or simple CM/MNAs/MPAs.

 

[Oscar]

If the state is in a habit of pushing it's citizens to the brink and then destroy them when these citizens retaliate. Then of course the state is right on the spot. It should keep continue what it is doing. Doesn't matter if it's Bengalis, mujeeb, AQ Khan, IK, or simple CM/MNAs/MPAs.

Then the country will disintegrate.
Because if State is the only bad element here then the state should not exist. That is the eventual conclusion of your argument.

 

[RealNapster]

Then the country will disintegrate.

If the people in control are planning the same thing And working tirelessly to achieve it.

 

[Oscar]

If the people in control are planning the same thing And working tirelessly to achieve it.

Easiest to assume malice instead of incompetence at multiple levels on every side.
Easiest to blame one side instead of looking at every aspect.
It’s easy for the mind to absorb simple explanations