Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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how they got drones
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Drones are in every shape and size. From quadcopters to these slingshots. They will get 1000s of those from various vendors. Can even get parts from China, Iran, India and mass assemble them in Afghanistan. Drones and their parts are widely available. There are many commercial sectors of it which can easily be transformed into military uses.

In any conflict we will have complete air dominance but these drones will become serious headache for our ground / border forces. especially quadcopters with a small explosive attached.
 
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Xestan said:
We have lost 6 soldiers in Kurram, large scale ambush. Three quadcopters attack since dawn today.

Ahmed Kazim, who has a bounty of 100 million is the key commander in Kurram. We can blame Afghanistan all we want, and rightly so, but these are not cross-border attacks. Kazim has stayed in Kurram with hundreds of his fighters and our intel is so weak that we cannot even take him out.

Kurram was relatively quiet all these years, it was just recently activated by TTP.
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Did they start manufacturing M4 in Kurram??? All of TTP weapons and ammunition supply comes from Afghanistan.
 
Aliso5 said:
Did they start manufacturing M4 in Kurram??? All of TTP weapons and ammunition supply comes from Afghanistan.
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Cross-border attacks, yes. Afghan rulers are to be blamed. Movement of Tashkeels, yes. But once Tashkeel enter deep into your territory, you cannot keep saying the same thing. We have lost thousands of soldiers to ambush and IEDs since 2007, and I can assure you, there's no institutional learning here.
 
Cipher212 said:
Ethnic lines lmao. PTI gets vote across the board. They sweeped the last elections not just KP.

It's not like PMLN or PPP that is only popular in one province. Imran Khan pulls crowds in any province. That is why the establishment originally backed him.
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It is not the case in recent years, btw. PTI-allied/supporting accounts on social media spew venom against Panjab all day, and they literally side with the Afghandus, they were supporting the Afghandus even in this recent clash. Their leaders do that (example, you may ask -> Mehmood Achakzai, the mf was literally nominated by the party as the leader of opposition, lol), their regional party members do that, and even Imran Khan has done that in some of his speeches in the past.

I am quite sure that if this hatred against Panjab and a common Panjabi continues, PTI will be wiped out from Panjab because ethnic Panjabis, too, are finally waking up.

Edit- And I am not against anyone, btw. My father is a Panjabi Rajput and my mother is a Muhajir from the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh. My best friend is a Durrani Pashtun from Charsadda, and most of my university batchmates were either Sindhis, Siraiki-speaking Balochs, or Pashtuns. The point is: what happens when some groups push a group to the extreme levels of criticism and want you annihilated (Pashtun, Baloch, Sindhi ethnonats)? You will have to fight back, fight or just perish. I am quite sure that we will fight against the hatred for a more peaceful Pakistan where all ethnic groups will live peacefully and coexist.
 
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Is this real or fake? Please verify
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Fake .. I did a reverse image search on google and found this original photo from more than 1 month ago. Also, the writing on the paper is too perfectionist/symmetric with no signs of variations in pressure that humans have when they write (strong/light text when hand puts more or less pressure, changes in thickness, etc). Most AI tools write as in the fake image, which is too even and smooth and consistent all across for human hand to achieve.

Finally, where are a lot of Afghans living in Pakistan who are absolutely Namak Haram and making the images that we saw from Islamabad. I doubt Any Pakistanis have made Afghanistan as their home, who would be posting such messages form Kabul.


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Pak-Warrior said:
But that bleeds us financially. Those bombs / missiles. Per hour flight costs, whole operations are way too expensive. Those bombs and every single bullet had to be used against india or reserved for that front. We need a quick smarter solution. Now we have stirred the pot, we need to find alliance / proxy in afghanistan and increase our intelligence foot print.

BTW, that war not only bleeds us financially we are also losing many soldiers. Soldiers life is precious anyways but someone here also had posted that we spend millions on each soldier from training to family's welfare etc. on other hand TTA / TTP may recruit someone in 100 dollars. So this war is not sustainable for us in anyways. We can't drain ourselves and our resources against afg. If we throw our entire conventional arsenal over afghanistan even then there will be millions of recruits ready to cross border. There are over 30,000 towns in AFG, we don't even have enough missiles or bombs to take care of that large country. People don't realize the geography & demographics involve in this afghan problem.

Someone said use nukes. Well, even Israel didn't used nukes against Gazans. World will put massive sanctions and may join together against our nukes. Secondly, even nukes can't finish an entire population. Nukes are out of question. Only solution is intelligence brilliance. ISI needs to be put at test. They need to inflitrate enemy ranks and implode the TTP structure, send coordinates and we keep hitting the top leadership with pure success. I don't think we have eliminated anyone in top 10 TTP commanders in last 4,5 months. Secondly, we need a group in Afghanistan that is not ultra religious and somewhat not anti-pakistan (which is really hard to find anyways).. The northern alliance were more anti-pakisatn then afghan talibs. The amrullah saleh brags online about hurting Pakistan and destabilizing it. Our best bet was to find a win-win solution with talibs and some how get those talib idiots understand a better relation / partnership but unfortunately that didn't happened.
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Great Post!
There really are no good options when it comes to Afghanistan. What a curse to be their neighbor.
 
hydrabadi_arab said:
Afghanis will survive, they will get food from elsewhere. But more expensive and no smuggling. Making their population even more poorer if that is possible.

KPK will learn to produce things instead of relying on Afghan smuggling rackets and middlemen traders. Huge potential for investment in KPK once terrorism end.
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Trade is not smuggling..how is buying and selling goods and services to 3 crore people/afghans smuggling

Kpk will suffer and establishment will kill two birds with one stone
 
Pak-Warrior said:
But that bleeds us financially. Those bombs / missiles. Per hour flight costs, whole operations are way too expensive. Those bombs and every single bullet had to be used against india or reserved for that front. We need a quick smarter solution. Now we have stirred the pot, we need to find alliance / proxy in afghanistan and increase our intelligence foot print.

BTW, that war not only bleeds us financially we are also losing many soldiers. Soldiers life is precious anyways but someone here also had posted that we spend millions on each soldier from training to family's welfare etc. on other hand TTA / TTP may recruit someone in 100 dollars. So this war is not sustainable for us in anyways. We can't drain ourselves and our resources against afg. If we throw our entire conventional arsenal over afghanistan even then there will be millions of recruits ready to cross border. There are over 30,000 towns in AFG, we don't even have enough missiles or bombs to take care of that large country. People don't realize the geography & demographics involve in this afghan problem.

Someone said use nukes. Well, even Israel didn't used nukes against Gazans. World will put massive sanctions and may join together against our nukes. Secondly, even nukes can't finish an entire population. Nukes are out of question. Only solution is intelligence brilliance. ISI needs to be put at test. They need to inflitrate enemy ranks and implode the TTP structure, send coordinates and we keep hitting the top leadership with pure success. I don't think we have eliminated anyone in top 10 TTP commanders in last 4,5 months. Secondly, we need a group in Afghanistan that is not ultra religious and somewhat not anti-pakistan (which is really hard to find anyways).. The northern alliance were more anti-pakisatn then afghan talibs. The amrullah saleh brags online about hurting Pakistan and destabilizing it. Our best bet was to find a win-win solution with talibs and some how get those talib idiots understand a better relation / partnership but unfortunately that didn't happened.
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Drone warfare and arming the northern alliance is far far cheaper then losing dozen of men everyday
 
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Very Scary lul
 
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