Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

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[Signalian]

After Assad's departure, a long shot - but could Turkey help rebuild Syrian Military ?

 

[Ali_Baba]

After Assad's departure, a long shot - but could Turkey help rebuild Syrian Military ?

Not really - Israel won't allow it regardless of if Turkiye wants to do so.

Israel bombs any level of military progress by Syria, not so long ago they bombed some bases that were meant to host AD equipment. They even bombed the Syrian Military Headquarters(MOD).

Syria will never be allowed to reconstitute her military, it will be a case of "mowing the lawn" consistently now. Once you lose your capability in that part of the world, it is lost permanently.

 

[Assyrian209]

Not really - Israel won't allow it regardless of if Turkiye wants to do so.

Israel bombs any level of military progress by Syria, not so long ago they bombed some bases that were meant to host AD equipment. They even bombed the Syrian Military Headquarters(MOD).

Syria will never be allowed to reconstitute her military, it will be a case of "mowing the lawn" consistently now. Once you lose your capability in that part of the world, it is lost permanently.

Syria is not Lebanon and the bombs stopped long time ago sense Syria and Israel were close to going to war since during the suwayda incident.

Syria´s territorial integrity will not be quesitoned by anyone unless they want to go into war with us which is not the case. Both sides don´t want full all out war.

Nobody can allow us this or that unless they go to war with us

 

[Ali_Baba]

Syria is not Lebanon and the bombs stopped long time ago sense Syria and Israel were close to going to war since during the suwayda incident.

Syria´s territorial integrity will not be quesitoned by anyone unless they want to go into war with us which is not the case. Both sides don´t want full all out war.

Nobody can allow us this or that unless they go to war with us

Go to war with what equipment ? Syria cannot protect her airspace at all, Syria has no IADS, no air force.. Syria has no land forces of anything meaningful and lets not talk about the navy.

Geopolitically, and militarily, Syria is a non entity and it is questionable if it ever become economically meaningful either anytime soon.

 

[ResurgentIran2]

Syria is not Lebanon and the bombs stopped long time ago sense Syria and Israel were close to going to war since during the suwayda incident.

Syria´s territorial integrity will not be quesitoned by anyone unless they want to go into war with us which is not the case. Both sides don´t want full all out war.

Nobody can allow us this or that unless they go to war with us

I know that is something we all desperately want to believe, but the fact is that Israel is occupying land in southwestern Syria (not talking about Golan, but beyond that). They have taken Mount Hermon and some vital water resources, and there is absolutely no way they will just hand it back, even if Jolani complies with every demand.

There are now videos circulating of israeli jews walking freely in streets of Damascus, and the IDF arresting and detaining Syrians in their own land in Southern Syria.

I have to agree with @Ali_Baba. Syria will not be allowed to form a strong state with strong state institutions, and a military. It will be another version of the Palestinian Authority ruling the West Bank, only a bigger version of that.
Essentially the "military" will be reduced to a police force that will keep the population and local militias under control. But not in any way, shape or form be a genuine military, adversary and state that can strategically challenge Israel and its ever increasing enroachment into Syria.

However that doesnt mean Syrians are bound to be subjects to israeli domination and occupation in perpetuity.
Occupation and humiliation breeds resistance groups, that not even Jolani may be able to control and confront in the long run.

 

[battalion25]

I know that is something we all desperately want to believe, but the fact is that Israel is occupying land in southwestern Syria (not talking about Golan, but beyond that). They have taken Mount Hermon and some vital water resources, and there is absolutely no way they will just hand it back, even if Jolani complies with every demand.

There are now videos circulating of israeli jews walking freely in streets of Damascus, and the IDF arresting and detaining Syrians in their own land in Southern Syria.

I have to agree with @Ali_Baba. Syria will not be allowed to form a strong state with strong state institutions, and a military. It will be another version of the Palestinian Authority ruling the West Bank, only a bigger version of that.
Essentially the "military" will be reduced to a police force that will keep the population and local militias under control. But not in any way, shape or form be a genuine military, adversary and state that can strategically challenge Israel and its ever increasing enroachment into Syria.

However that doesnt mean Syrians are bound to be subjects to israeli domination and occupation in perpetuity.
Occupation and humiliation breeds resistance groups, that not even Jolani may be able to control and confront in the long run.

The up actully has a point. Syria-Israel will make a deal here shortly where Israel exits the buffer zone the rest is yada yada. Both countries don´t want an all out war for that. Syria´s sovereignty is out of discussion

 

[Foinikas]

The up actully has a point. Syria-Israel will make a deal here shortly where Israel exits the buffer zone the rest is yada yada. Both countries don´t want an all out war for that. Syria´s sovereignty is out of discussion

You actually have the nerve to be back on the forum? You fake Pakistani?

 

[Foinikas]

I have to agree with @Ali_Baba. Syria will not be allowed to form a strong state with strong state institutions, and a military. It will be another version of the Palestinian Authority ruling the West Bank, only a bigger version of that.
Essentially the "military" will be reduced to a police force that will keep the population and local militias under control. But not in any way, shape or form be a genuine military, adversary and state that can strategically challenge Israel and its ever increasing enroachment into Syria.

They used to say that Russia wasn't helping Syria enough and keeping them weak,just with enough equipment and money to continue being a useful proxy. I agreed.

Now I see Turkey and Israel are doing the same thing. But I don't feel bad about them,since they literally have a terrorist government ruling the country. Literally,terrorists have taken over Syria and are ruling it.

 

[battalion25]

You actually have the nerve to be back on the forum? You fake Pakistani?

And who are you?

 

[Foinikas]

And who are you?

After this,you have the nerve to get back here? You support the Taliban against Pakistan and you pretend to be Pakistani,having a Pak flag on your profile?

 

[Ali_Baba]

They used to say that Russia wasn't helping Syria enough and keeping them weak,just with enough equipment and money to continue being a useful proxy. I agreed.

That strategy of keeping Syria weak as a negotiating toy did not work out well for the Russians as they have gone on to lose alot of ground in Syria. ( There are loads on additional reasons why Syria fell, including Assad being an absolute c*ck ...).

They are doing a similar thing in Iran as well, of just enough to keep the Iranians tagging along but nothing of actual substance. I do wonder if the Russians have learnt any lessons from Syria.

 

[battalion25]

That strategy of keeping Syria weak as a negotiating toy did not work out well for the Russians as they have gone on to lose alot of ground in Syria. ( There are loads on additional reasons why Syria fell, including Assad being an absolute c*ck ...).

They are doing a similar thing in Iran as well, of just enough to keep the Iranians tagging along but nothing of actual substance. I do wonder if the Russians have learnt any lessons from Syria.

Russia, Iran and everyone fought Syria for 14 years to try to keep it weak and it didn´t work. If someone ain´t willing to commit the same amount of force, manpower and wealth to fight Syria then they can kiss goodbye to it.

The rest is delulu. Syria has settled and they have won politically as well outside of the office

 

[Shags101]

Not really - Israel won't allow it regardless of if Turkiye wants to do so.

Israel bombs any level of military progress by Syria, not so long ago they bombed some bases that were meant to host AD equipment. They even bombed the Syrian Military Headquarters(MOD).

Syria will never be allowed to reconstitute her military, it will be a case of "mowing the lawn" consistently now. Once you lose your capability in that part of the world, it is lost permanently.

Not true if they are American bought weapons I think people kind of overlook that one Syria can but armor etc from turkey maybe even fighter jets and helicopters etc but if Syria bought air defense equipment or offensive weapons etc Israel wouldn’t hit those

 

[Ali_Baba]

Not true if they are American bought weapons I think people kind of overlook that one Syria can but armor etc from turkey maybe even fighter jets and helicopters etc but if Syria bought air defense equipment or offensive weapons etc Israel wouldn’t hit those

I honestly do think you, or anyone else understands the predicament Syria is under right now as far as its military and security options go.