Egyptian Armed Forces

[The SC]

Still disagree with f15s since Chinese tech has way more leverage and leniency, not to mention better munitions like pl15 and pl20. While eagles carry limited use and kill switches.

Rafales with meteors are perfect by themselves, I see no reason to pair typhoons up with them. Especially multirole wise.

J10c should absolutely replace the majority of f16s in air superiority/advanced multirole capabilities. And j35 should be a top priority.

Frankly i believe even MiG 35s with zhuk aesa radars are better then those f15s due to freedom and leniency as well as potential for license manufacturing (yes I know zhuk radars aren’t being fielded en masse but the point still stands) Way more options as opposed to more advanced electronics and components/munitions. Your already getting advanced and proven capabilities with Chinese tech. Tech that can actually go toe to toe with American aviation, or at the very least hold their own quite well.

That’s why back in the days of the su35 craze, despite not having aesa tech, I was staunchly against all and any f15 deal due to aforementioned reasons, and continue to do so. No reason to use a template your foes know the ins and outs of, especially if they push America to give them to you, just a big red flag.

Gomig 21 use to go crazy over that and Tbf rightfully so.

I like the Idea of Egypt getting the F-15EX for free..it is a monster and scary to any enemy.. kind of a good deterrent..

 

[Ali_Baba]

I like the Idea of Egypt getting the F-15EX for free..it is a monster and scary to any enemy.. kind of a good deterrent..

I don’t like the idea of Egypt getting another new platform that cannot compete against the F35.

There is a massive question mark over the Rafale and whether they were allowed to get the meteors with them, but now Egypt is filling the ranks of its airforce with another new platform that is inferior to what the IDF will be inducting.

The EAF can only be of a certain size due to costs of fielding so many people, free or not, the F15Ex does not serve egypts best interest.

The F15EX is a strategic mistake for the EAF.

 

[Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose]

I like the Idea of Egypt getting the F-15EX for free..it is a monster and scary to any enemy.. kind of a good deterrent..

Your entitled to yours as I am to mine bro, but there’s no mistaking that Egypt will be pushing for Chinese tech which would better them even more, this whole diversify your arsenal standpoint can only go so far until it starts to go against you. I was on board with that idea when I was younger but now it’s high tide we prioritize the fundamentals, not that we haven’t started that already. Just because the f15EX is a beast of its own doesn’t mean it’ll win you conflicts. Just look at Qatari f15EX’s and how ineffective they were when it came to “tracking” Israeli stealth crafts and missiles. High tech, no situational awareness. That was also more so because of the SAM and early warning systems were not only few in numbers, but are manned by AMERICAN PERSONNEL. They intentionally let Israel get away with that monstrosity of an incident with no repercussions. I never trusted Qatar politically, but even then Americas closest allies are not immune to Israel’s coddled policy. That shows you American recourses aren’t really worth the buck you pay for anymore since even though all equipment is to be manned by Egyptian personnel upon delivery and training/deployment, you still have potential deception, espionage, and transfer of data to, well…you know. It’s partially why European countries are diverting military procurements elsewhere, like with the f35s for example and the kill switch policy.

Isn’t that why we diversified our war chest, to get away from American entanglements due to QME? That’s why we now moved towards k2 black panther mbts and k9 thunder artillery pieces instead of Abrams and paladins? The only good American equipment Egypt can really buy now are just supply and logistics to help maintain repair, supply, transport and readiness of our forces. C-130s are one of the best examples actually. I don’t mind implementing upgrades to EXISTING equipment we already own, like 555 Abrams upgrade package, I’m all for those for example, but to purchase more new equipment that out-do’s our diversifying of equipment advantage? Even if other nations get better models??? Nah, not a chance respectfully.

You get a whole new system that despite takes time to train and master, will be beneficial for eaf. Kj 500 is superior to our E2 Cs even though they’re proven platforms. The aesa radar is the selling point of the vehicle and can track more targets than the older pesa radars of the e2’s. And the even better kj 700 will be available in the future. Y 20s will basically be the globe masters of the EAF. It’s worth it because our preexisting anti air system is too hot for even Israeli aircraft to snoop into, which keeps them at bay. America isn’t selling high tech assets Like that to us for obvious reasons.

J10 has superior speed and surface ceiling, and vastly superior range to existing f16s in service, pair those stats with pl-15s and you wonder why India lost their rafales despite being world class fighters. A lot of it was because of Indian negligence and ignorance, and importance of situational warfare. That’s why Egyptian crafts went to Pakistan around the same time when news of acquiring j10s was making headlines, it was to gather as much helpful intel to maximize the advantages of the new system.

Really with the extended range you get with j10s makes the new f15s negligible at best. Especially since Chinas working on an upgrade package known as the j10 D for future services. Sooner or later IDF will get the aim 260, then what? We’re left with amraams that are already outranged and outgunned. Right back to square one. And that’s all assuming we even get airborne AMRAAMs since the ones with the nasams deal will be specifically used for surface to air defense.

I’m super passionate about this, and it really helps thinking all of these points through and through

 

[Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose]

I don’t like the idea of Egypt getting another new platform that cannot compete against the F35.

There is a massive question mark over the Rafale and whether they were allowed to get the meteors with them, but now Egypt is filling the ranks of its airforce with another new platform that is inferior to what the IDF will be inducting.

The EAF can only be of a certain size due to costs of fielding so many people, free or not, the F15Ex does not serve egypts best interest.

The F15EX is a strategic mistake for the EAF.

Meteors have been confirmed by top officials from both Egyptian and French sides, it’s just that they can’t be too loud about it or else USA will act very “polite” with us. That’s why our jets do elephant walks completely armless to not show any capabilities to frighten any potential foe.

 

[The SC]

Your entitled to yours as I am to mine bro, but there’s no mistaking that Egypt will be pushing for Chinese tech which would better them even more, this whole diversify your arsenal standpoint can only go so far until it starts to go against you. I was on board with that idea when I was younger but now it’s high tide we prioritize the fundamentals, not that we haven’t started that already. Just because the f15EX is a beast of its own doesn’t mean it’ll win you conflicts. Just look at Qatari f15EX’s and how ineffective they were when it came to “tracking” Israeli stealth crafts and missiles. High tech, no situational awareness. That was also more so because of the SAM and early warning systems were not only few in numbers, but are manned by AMERICAN PERSONNEL. They intentionally let Israel get away with that monstrosity of an incident with no repercussions. I never trusted Qatar politically, but even then Americas closest allies are not immune to Israel’s coddled policy. That shows you American recourses aren’t really worth the buck you pay for anymore since even though all equipment is to be manned by Egyptian personnel upon delivery and training/deployment, you still have potential deception, espionage, and transfer of data to, well…you know. It’s partially why European countries are diverting military procurements elsewhere, like with the f35s for example and the kill switch policy.

Isn’t that why we diversified our war chest, to get away from American entanglements due to QME? That’s why we now moved towards k2 black panther mbts and k9 thunder artillery pieces instead of Abrams and paladins? The only good American equipment Egypt can really buy now are just supply and logistics to help maintain repair, supply, transport and readiness of our forces. C-130s are one of the best examples actually. I don’t mind implementing upgrades to EXISTING equipment we already own, like 555 Abrams upgrade package, I’m all for those for example, but to purchase more new equipment that out-do’s our diversifying of equipment advantage? Even if other nations get better models??? Nah, not a chance respectfully.

You get a whole new system that despite takes time to train and master, will be beneficial for eaf. Kj 500 is superior to our E2 Cs even though they’re proven platforms. The aesa radar is the selling point of the vehicle and can track more targets than the older pesa radars of the e2’s. And the even better kj 700 will be available in the future. Y 20s will basically be the globe masters of the EAF. It’s worth it because our preexisting anti air system is too hot for even Israeli aircraft to snoop into, which keeps them at bay. America isn’t selling high tech assets Like that to us for obvious reasons.

J10 has superior speed and surface ceiling, and vastly superior range to existing f16s in service, pair those stats with pl-15s and you wonder why India lost their rafales despite being world class fighters. A lot of it was because of Indian negligence and ignorance, and importance of situational warfare. That’s why Egyptian crafts went to Pakistan around the same time when news of acquiring j10s was making headlines, it was to gather as much helpful intel to maximize the advantages of the new system.

Really with the extended range you get with j10s makes the new f15s negligible at best. Especially since Chinas working on an upgrade package known as the j10 D for future services. Sooner or later IDF will get the aim 260, then what? We’re left with amraams that are already outranged and outgunned. Right back to square one. And that’s all assuming we even get airborne AMRAAMs since the ones with the nasams deal will be specifically used for surface to air defense.

I’m super passionate about this, and it really helps thinking all of these points through and through

Don't get me wrong about going Chinese tech wise..I'm just pointing out that the F-15 will be a good addition to any air force on top of whatever it gets from others..

 

[The SC]

I don’t like the idea of Egypt getting another new platform that cannot compete against the F35.

There is a massive question mark over the Rafale and whether they were allowed to get the meteors with them, but now Egypt is filling the ranks of its airforce with another new platform that is inferior to what the IDF will be inducting.

The EAF can only be of a certain size due to costs of fielding so many people, free or not, the F15Ex does not serve egypts best interest.

The F15EX is a strategic mistake for the EAF.

It is a beast my friend..mostly since Egyptian Radars and satellites monitor the whole of Israel.. nothing can get off the ground without being seen and intercepted..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

i wonder egypt is 100 milion people country people why dont they develop and produce there own fighter like turkey

To build an indigenous fighter from scratch is an arduous task, and it may take up to 1-2 decades.

Egypt needs winning time for its national security.

If the US is getting too biased for Israel, Egypt may use its geopolitical leverage to acquire advanced fighters and other weapons from China.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I like the Idea of Egypt getting the F-15EX for free..it is a monster and scary to any enemy.. kind of a good deterrent..

It is a decent platform, but Egypt cannot bet on any western weapon when it comes to Israel.

 

[The SC]

It is a decent platform, but Egypt cannot bet on any western weapon when it comes to Israel.

It is very good on top of Chinese platforms Egypt is buying..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It is very good on top of Chinese platforms Egypt is buying..

China won't let its customer down.

BTW, from Egypt's perspective for its national interest, it should maintain a relationship with the west.

However, it comes to counter against the Israeli aggression, it needs to deploy the Chinese weapons against it, not the western one.

Also, make sure to protect the Chinese weaponries in its inventory against those collaborators/saboteurs.

 

[The SC]

The Spanish Navy displays its advanced submarine S-80 to Egypt as part of the race to modernize the Egyptian submarine fleet



In a visit that is the first of its kind in nearly a century, the Spanish Navy announced that the modern attack submarine Ishak Peral, one of the new generation S-80 class submarines, had docked at the Ras El Tin Naval Base in Alexandria on November 7th. This visit represents a remarkable symbolic event, as it brings to mind the visit of the Spanish submarines C3 and C6 to the same base in 1934 during the reign of King Fouad I.

According to Spanish press reports, the stop of the Ishaq Peral submarine in Alexandria is not limited to being a logistical station only, but also comes within the framework of a promotional campaign aimed at demonstrating the submarine’s capabilities to the Egyptian fleet. This move is seen as part of broader efforts to enhance maritime cooperation between the two countries, at a time when the Egyptian Navy is paying increasing attention to modernizing its submarine fleet.

Reports indicate that Egypt is showing special interest in the S-80 class submarines produced by the Spanish shipbuilding company Navantia. This interest comes in light of Cairo's desire to find alternatives to its old Type 033 submarines, which are the Chinese version of the Soviet Romeo submarines, which served for many years in the Egyptian fleet.

Several international companies are competing on this issue, as the contract to modernize the Egyptian submarine fleet is among the major maritime deals in the region, given Egypt's strategic location controlling the Mediterranean and Red Seas and the Suez Canal. Cairo's choice of the next submarine system would redraw the balance of power beneath the surface in the eastern Mediterranean.

Thus, the Spanish submarine's visit to Alexandria carries connotations that go beyond the protocol nature, constituting a tangible step in an escalating international race to win arms contracts that will affect the structure of the Egyptian naval force in the coming years.



This class is attracting increasing interest from countries searching for high-tech non-nuclear submarines, due to the balance it represents between compact combat capability, advanced technology and low acoustic footprint.

 

[The SC]

Sergei Shoigu arrives in Cairo at the head of a high-level Russian delegation​

Secretary of the Russian Security Council, Sergei Shoigu, arrived in Cairo at the head of a high-level Russian delegation to hold discussions with senior political and military officials in Egypt.

Shoigu is scheduled to meet with President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, his National Security Advisor, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, and the Minister of Defense, in addition to a number of heads of security services.

The discussions will address information security issues, combating terrorism and extremism, and exchanging views on regional and international issues.

Shoigu also announced the date of installing the reactor body for the first unit at the Dabaa nuclear plant, scheduled to be implemented on November 19.

 

[Ghostkiller]

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[The SC]

Conclusion of the joint Egyptian-Saudi naval training activities (Red Wave 8)

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The Egyptian army carries out live ammunition training in the western region to penetrate enemy defenses. The maneuver witnessed the participation of infantry, armored, and air force units, in the presence of the Commander-in-Chief of the Egyptian Armed Forces, Abdel Majeed Saqr.

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