Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Im not pro mush. but out of curiosity, do you know any other Pak. political leader, who has not done any thing like this in his political life?!!

Blame whoever you want but lets not forget that he did a lot of good for Pakistan given the circumstances, now the member posted Mushy's "Secret" video of begging for Leadership so who didn't beg for leadership in Pakistan?

Is "others do/did it too" a reasonable justification for one's own actions? Though I agree to give credit where it's due, and I have done previously by listing the achievements by Gen Musharraf but then by same logic he should be held accountable for all the problems he ended up creating, no?

Lal masjid was not on Mushy because it was the radicals they would eventually start suicide bombings anyway, because once the whole school was running by religious zealots its already late, even if Mushy presented his Tashreef to them it will not suffice. people who used lal masjid as excuse for starting the worse wave of suicide bombing in Pakistan don't care, operation or not.

He publicly accepted his fault for Lal Masjid military operation, so no need to dig that grave again 🥲
 
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this is their 3rd or 2nd tier
look at the mental state of these men...




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Dumb and dumber duo.
 
Interesting interview
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one more member added to, 'mein nahi bataonga' club!
 
I think an unrealistic notion of risk taking is being projected onto India.

The last 10 years have been an absolute geopolitical sweet spot for India, where you had America literally supportive of India to be more assertive on Pakistan
Realistically: It's not just 10 years but more like 79 years. Every government and political party in power in India since 1947 has game planned a military action against Pakistan and Bangladesh. The sole objective has been to annex Pakistan and Bangladesh. To reconstitute India as it was defined before 1947 is a long term strategic ideologically driven strategy of every government in power in India. The ideological vision of the ruling political establishments have varied over the years but the objective remains the same.
Let's examine WHY India wants the annexation of Pakistan:
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  • The centrist leftist secular establishment ( essentially the Congress backed by the Communist Party of India and other left wing parties ) that ruled India for decades viewed (and still views) Pakistan and Bangladesh as artificial colonial creations, and illegal entities that seceded as part of a foreign conspiracy . For the Congress and left wing parties ( whatever is left of them) view the existence of Pakistan and Bangladesh as a serious challenge to India's long term internal stability where the right-wing fundamentalists use the creation of Pakistan & Bangladesh to undermine India's "secular character " and ferment violence, and establish a fascist regime ( which happened anyhow)the . Annexation of Pakistan & Bangladesh will remove this factor, and the addition of 400 million Muslims which would be a majority in key provinces would ensure a secular national government forever. Additionally the territories annexed would restore India's traditional access to both Central Asia & South East Asia and make India the dominant power in both the Middle East and Far East . The Congress regime made a attempt to annex Pakistan during Operation Brass Tacks in 1987. This was the largest mobilization the Indian Armed Forces have ever done, exceeding all other mobilizations including the two wars of 1965 and 1971.
  • The right wing fundamentalist RSS-VHP Hindutva regime that has ruled India in two phases, and has currently been in power for over a decade has an entirely different reason for the annexation of Pakistan and Bangladesh . Like it's left wing counterpart it wants a "united India" or Akhand Bharat based not only on the borders as it was prior to 1947 but territories beyond including Afghanistan,Iran & Myanmar .The RSS-VHP wants the territory of Pakistan but not the people basically Muslims. The RSS-VHP envision stability not through democracy and secularism but by the establishment of a Hindu theocracy and the complete elimination of Muslims both within India's current borders and in the territories India will conquer. Short term the existence of Pakistan serves the political interests of the Hindutva regime to persecute Muslims questioning their right to live in India and win elections against the left-wing centrist secular alliance. The tensions with Pakistan have been a great asset to the rise of Hindutva ideology in India. Like the Congress regime the RSS-VHP has long awaited and planned a massive war against Pakistan. The Hindutva ideologues have also planned the largest holocaust in human history to eliminate 600 million Muslims from the subcontinent using nuclear, chemical & biological weapons and concentration camps, dwarfing the Mongol effort.
So there we have it. Whether it is Congress or BJP Pakistan and Bangladesh are doomed to an eternal existential war. The options are nuclear martyrdom or slavery and slow extermination. There is a chance ( small one) that India will get into a war with China and the resulting defeat will cause India to break up. However Indians are too afraid of China to fight it.
Before jumping into a military scenario I believe the Indians will think what's the maximum level of action they can take that will not jeopardize investment and trade
At this point this expectation is unrealistic. The media hype created makes war inevitable.
 
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And they'll wage a war. Falling like flies.

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Two more. Three in a day. Lol
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its not even funny anymore man . just pathetic almost feel bad for them
 

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