Jeffrey Epstein files

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You could argue that, yes. Probably because Saudis know they are a bit too indispensable in the region? They do have some good cards of their own.

As for Trump, no horse in that race, but I do believe it's larger than Trump. Even if he is in it (I am sure he is, the guy ran a modeling agency for young girls out of MAL lol), there's other fish that needs to be saved. I am honestly now believing all the conspiracy theories jo bachpan say suni theen...it's a strange world.
As a cop, using deductive reasoning, I am pretty sure Trump is on the list (By that I mean he is directly involved); there are already enough associations that were shown in the presence of Epstein. If that is the end of their relationship, he would have released the entire file already, just to keep people from talking if there were no more connections to him. He is still holding out after all that has come to light, suggesting direct involvement in this.

That file had everything people need to target the elite (not just Israeli, but EVERYONE) that's the reason why both sides refused to release the file.

I don't think this is a Middle Eastern hit job. I believe the file incriminates a large portion of high society, this is probably bigger than catholic church scandal 2.0
 
Absolutely

People are lauding them for doing their job..... for some reason that absolves them of their crimes?

We are fortunate they are somewhat competent at their day job especially when it comes to controlling the rabid neighbour to our East. However, they have failed miserably at the western front.....summary:

- good job with India
- bad effort with Afghanistan
- still criminals
Only airforce is competent, the duffer generals' cognitive abilities and competence doesn't go much further than small time swindlers
 
TBT, I hope DOJ and FBI is making a list of every name who is posting on social media that President Trump is a pedophile and raped little girls. And once this whole thing is exposed for the sham it is, he sues every last one of them back into the stone age for libel, slander, and defamation.
You can not use DOJ and FBI for personal use.
As a cop, using deductive reasoning, I am pretty sure Trump is on the list (By that I mean he is directly involved); there are already enough associations that were shown in the presence of Epstein. If that is the end of their relationship, he would have released the entire file already, just to keep people from talking if there were no more connections to him. He is still holding out after all that has come to light, suggesting direct involvement in this.
He may not be directly involved. Someone might have asked him to not release it. If he was directly involved, it would have been released by the previous administration.
 
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People waking up to Israeli occupation of America? This is what Mr EpSTEIN was all about...
 
Shylock, who?

Ever since Britain ushered in the era of debt... it played a global short ...
because 'people" compensate! Always aim to make it whole again... Never to be ...

Breaking otherwise prosperous into destitution... indebted raised on the pedestal and otherwise sound, debased!
And all blame/hail the crown!
Because the buck stops with the ultimate authority, except it didn't/doesn't!
The buck stops with the lender! The hand that stuffs the sock... calling the shots... plotting and coercing... keeping men fighting... keeping them in fear of starvation, homelessness and destitution ....

Epstein is a preview of action behind the scenes... seldom seen... never talked about!
So the tangled mess ropes in the royals and laymen alike to toe the line or wait to deliver on favors yet to be called....
 
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If you follow most of the (un)social media sites, all of the usual suspects think they are being clever reposting the redacted emails not knowing the same emails, unredacted, are being released basically putting a hole in their accusations.

Now, some of the same sites are being very quick to "community check" alleged photos of President Trump surrounded by underage women. And more often than not, the verdict is "AI".

TBT, I hope DOJ and FBI is making a list of every name who is posting on social media that President Trump is a pedophile and raped little girls. And once this whole thing is exposed for the sham it is, he sues every last one of them back into the stone age for libel, slander, and defamation.
That's not how Libel/Slander/Defamation works.

Whether or not there is a list, he was in that Document; there are numerous emails, numerous correspondents, suggesting a personal relationship, if not a close relationship between Trump and Epstein. Which means a speculation of a public figure (He IS a public figure) based on an assumption is completely allowed. Because there is at least an equal chance he is in that list, whatever list that was in.

To sue someone for Libel/Slander, you need to prove that YOU KNOW THAT IS FALSE AS A MATTER OF FACTS, At this point, his not releasing the document means there is no definitive proof that he was NOT involved. I can say he is a pedophile based on the assumption or suggestion of the close relationship with Epstein, a known Pedo. That would not be of Bad Faith. Him not releasing those files means that it is a valid reason why people can think that way.

If he had released the file, and his name was not in the list (Again, whatever that means), and people STILL claim he is a pedo, then that's another story, if so, and anyone still calling him a pedo, then I hope that guy has very strong evidence.

But at this point, as long as he did not release the file to prove one way or the other, based on speculation, everyone can call him Pedo, because that is an accusation, even a legal/criminal accusation (as in I accuse you of stealing) you only need to reach the level based on the balance of probability, at this stage, I would even go further and say if there are no statute of limitation and he was not the President, there are enough evidence to show probable cause for conspiracy to commit child sex abuse. Now, whether or not I can prove it in court is another matter, because the standard is different; I need to be able to prove beyond ALL reasonable doubt. Still, based on the evidence we had in hand, it is more likely than not that he is directly involved. I personally filed charges for conspiracy with less myself, and it went thru the system.

Libel/Slander defences are even less than that because you need to show both that I know it's wrong, and I am intentionally doing this to cause harm (The Bad Faith argument) to be able to have a judgment in your favor.
 
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You can not use DOJ and FBI for personal use.

He may not be directly involved. Someone might have asked him to not release it. If he was directly involved, it would have been released by the previous administration.
There is more likely than not that he is directly involved.....

Again, that's just deductive reasoning; emails, documents, correspondence, and flight log all had Trump's name in it. We know he was in communication with Epstein, we know he uses Epstein's personal jet, we know there are some corresponding emails, and then there are unproven accusations.

Which mean at this point, there are pretty much nothing else we can accuse him of, because he know the man, he used to work with the man, he had him in several party, whatever that is at the same level of accusation would not alter the current status one bit, i mean, if there is just more flight log, more personal correspondence and so on with his name, he would have released the file already. Because if that is the status, whatever we know now has already proven it. There is no point in keeping those files hidden if that was just to mask a personal connection. Which means if he is still trying to hide the file, it usually means he had something else to hide. And what do you think Trump is hiding when we already had the proof of his personal connection to Epstein

On the other hand, would he be withholding it for someone else? Sure, why not, but don't forget, he campaigned on this, he WANTED to release this, which means if someone had asked him not to, he wouldn't be campaigning on this, unless he really thinks nobody is going to remember what he campaigned on. He started the whole thing because that file was created when he was the President the first time around, he may not know what's in it (Depends on if he had looked at it), but he definitely knows that file existed. SO it does not make sense when someone ask him not to release it when he himself use it as a campaign promise.
 
This means either dems and reps worked out secretly to vote out the proposed release, or Trump has managed to scrutinize (read amend) the records adequately.
Or this act mean nothing at all, this is a house vote, even if it passed, it will need to clear the Senate, where Dem need 13 GOP senator to pass that bill to release the file, then there are President Veto, Trump can just veto it or not signing it into law, which even if by some miracle it cleared Senate, Trump is not going to sign this, because if he did, he would had already released it.
 
Absolutely

People are lauding them for doing their job..... for some reason that absolves them of their crimes?

We are fortunate they are somewhat competent at their day job especially when it comes to controlling the rabid neighbour to our East. However, they have failed miserably at the western front.....summary:

- good job with India
- bad effort with Afghanistan
- still criminals
As long as they remain in power Pakistan will remain a shithole.
 
Epstein literally directed a member of congress:

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