Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Sam6536]

go write essays on Shakespear tales


you dont even know basic facts about Brahmos, which, even person like me is aware of!

high on copium, seething delirium quite apparent

Kindly educate me what basic facts I'm missing on then.

I write about whatever I read up upon from multiple sources. I'd prefer a discussion over a monologue anyways. Ain't this a discussion forum?

I follow upon military and geopolitical affairs as a pastime hobby. I never claimed being an expert on such affairs.

 

[Meengla]

I follow upon military and geopolitical affairs as a pastime hobby. I never claimed being an expert on such affairs.

Hey, it's alright. I am almost zero on weaponry/hardware and that's why you rarely see me in discussions about military hardware. I like to believe I am better at connecting the dots and draw conclusions from them in an ever evolving world.
Having said that, your post above suggested India's economy making it able to 'prolong' the conflict against Pakistan. I think that advantage India had for the longest has rapidly eroded with China so openly coming to Pakistan's aid and the significant potential help Pakistan gets from Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Azerbaijan.

 

[Baibers_1260]

@Sam6536
Waiting for your answer to my post below
( Unless you want to ignore it like all my other responses to you)

Post in thread 'Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion'
https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...ews-updates-and-discussion.21640/post-1030175

 

[lightoftruth]

@kimjongun

this report mentioned the downing of three indian jets....which ALL MAY NOT have been rafales...

Donald Trump said 8 aircrafts down. Now if India lost 3, by elimination Pak lost 5?

Regards

Stop falling for American propaganda, according to them no F-16 is down either.

Wait for trade deal with India this Dec , they will start singing different tunes, won’t be surprised with F 35 offer as well.

 

[Vkdindian1]

IAF personnel chilling at PAF pavilion in Dubai trying to forget the horrors and trauma they faced in May 2025

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This is why many psychiatrists recommend traveling when you are recovering from a trauma

You seem to be more traumatised than any of these folks. Look at all your messages regarding these interactions.

The real soldiers are interacting and talking to each other with honour and civility, while people like you are loosing your mojo with each such post.

Grow up. Try to be just 10% of these uniformed men/women who know when to do what.

 

[hasssanali8998]

You seem to be more traumatised than any of these folks. Look at all your messages regarding these interactions.

The real soldiers are interacting and talking to each other with honour and civility, while people like you are loosing your mojo with each such post.

Grow up. Try to be just 10% of these uniformed men/women who know when to do what.

it was a joke jeez man .

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Kindly educate me what basic facts I'm missing on then.

I write about whatever I read up upon from multiple sources. I'd prefer a discussion over a monologue anyways. Ain't this a discussion forum?

I follow upon military and geopolitical affairs as a pastime hobby. I never claimed being an expert on such affairs.

you are incapable of coherent thought generation and would fall on the first strike!

dont waste my time!

 

[hasssanali8998]

according to them no F-16 is down either.

yaar what are we supposed to say to people like you , who still belove f16s were lost . a suar has more f16 kills than India

 

[hasssanali8998]

won’t be surprised with F 35 offer as well.

f35 with s400 ,bahaha atp us should just give russia f35

 

[Vkdindian1]

it was a joke jeez man .

It’s a joke when said first few times. Beyond that is not.

I have been seeing dear Areesh going on and on.

 

[hasssanali8998]

It’s a joke when said first few times. Beyond that is not.

 

[Sam6536]

you are incapable of coherent thought generation and would fall on the first strike!

dont waste my time!

Typo, meant to write supersonic.

 

[hnn]

Kindly educate me what basic facts I'm missing on then.

I write about whatever I read up upon from multiple sources. I'd prefer a discussion over a monologue anyways. Ain't this a discussion forum?

I follow upon military and geopolitical affairs as a pastime hobby. I never claimed being an expert on such affairs.

Here's a summary for your last few posts (in simpler terms without any jargon)

• In May, everything India used at Pakistan failed except for the BrahMos and SCALP-EG (Cruise Missiles) also BrahMos is Supersonic - Pakistan in reply only used F1 and F2 (both are GMLRS) - you can read the difference between a CM and a GMLRS, but summarily the former is a higher tier weapon system.
• Even with the highest tier Weapons System used by India, the damage wasn't equitable, and most of the CMs didn't hit their targets.
• Pakistan didn't use an equivalent Weapons System but caused equivalent or at least equitable damage - enough for US to assess that India doesn't have the upper hand and if Pakistan proceeds to equivalent tier Weapons System it'll cause India considerable damage.
• The S400 you mentioned - the reported vehicle been taken out is the Radar Vehicle - without it's Radar S400 can't even hit a mosquito out of the air - so effectively that one vehicle has caused the whole battery to be unusable.
• The Ballistic Missiles you mentioned - that's already Nuclear Threshold (even if it contains conventional warhead neither side is going to take a risk of f#cking around and finding out) - so not applicable in a conventional warfare below Nuclear Threshold.
• So in the space of conventional warfare India used all available resources and still failed to get an upper hand - while Pakistan got the upper hand without using all available resources - upper hand because India has been asking for de-escalation since the morning of 8 May despite being the aggressor and then finally US acknowledging and reporting Pakistan's success.
• As for your earlier post about "long drawn out conflict" - why do you expect Pakistan to play along with your strengths instead of its own? A long drawn out conflict isn't suitable for either country, and in a short term conflict Pakistan has the upper hand which is only going to get stronger with new Christmas and New Year's gifts we have in store for India.
• Lastly, for your "back to ground zero" - it's not 20th Century anymore, in the 21st Century India has taken the role of an aggressor - so it can initiate conflicts but can't win (Nuclear Countries - likely MAD) - anything below Nuclear Threshold India still can't win because Pakistan now has strategic, operational, and soon enough technological superiority - on top of that better logistical and supply networks (for ref: listen to your COAS last Friday's interview complaining about supply and logistics constraints) - and still on top of that much more effective and efficient military personnel (for ref: IAF's superior aircrafts shot down by PAF pilots and IA's white flags across IOJK raised because of PA's relentless and tactical Artillery Shelling)

 

[hnn]

Wait for trade deal with India this Dec , they will start singing different tunes, won’t be surprised with F 35 offer as well.

Yes, please get F-35s, it'll take the burden off of PAF - we won't even have to shoot down a F-35

For ref: search the technical issues and accidental crash rate for your aspired stealth fighter and then factor in IAF pilot quality into the equation (read about the number of crashes during your recent military exercises)

 

[Oscar]

Did Reuters really need to cover this?
Well when your staff is full of Shivams and Shivanis - yep