Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Well they accepted that their jets were downed but still refuse to confirm the number. Question is if it was just 1 or 2, why wouldn’t they confirm? Why resort to laughable excuses like, we can’t say because ‘operation is ongoing’. Clearly the number is embarrassingly high.

Increasingly it appears there may even be a difference between those actually downed and those damaged beyond repair.
 
After all this.

As per ispr : 5-6 planes were down. Later news of 7-8 planes. (4 rafale)

As per Indian : planes were lost but no confirmation of lost rafale

As per French : Atleast 1 plane was down.

As per usa :7-8 planes.


Whom to believe

It's confirmed via wreckage to be at least 4 fighter jets so you can count up from that.
 
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After all this.

As per ispr : 5-6 planes were down. Later news of 7-8 planes. (4 rafale)

As per Indian : planes were lost but no confirmation of lost rafale

As per French : Atleast 1 plane was down.

As per usa :7-8 planes.


Whom to believe

Whether you believe or not, or whom you believe is irrelevant & inconsequential. So save yourself the stress & don’t believe anything.
Carry on as you are,
 
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With the FC headquarters under attack in peshawar, the question is how will pakistan raise the ante with Afghanistan now. And what trap is being laid out.
 
With the FC headquarters under attack in peshawar, the question is how will pakistan raise the ante with Afghanistan now. And what trap is being laid out.
We are waiting for the CDF Notification and new office decorations, plus some elections needs to be managed, So Hafiz sab With his Army and Intelligence is busy at the moment.

TTP never stoped, but our Hafiz Sab has other more important priorities to attend to, Oath, Primary Duties gai bhar mae.
 
You could mention a dozen people who founded a state under those conditions, but why him? Why do you hindu indians worship those more worthy of you?
Many have founded a state,,none under so adverse a circumstance may be with the exception of george washington. Israel under ben gurion stood alone against a dozen countries during its first 20 years and survived. If thats not resilience and leadership,, i dont know what is..!!
 
I would have admired jinnah, except that after partition he resorted to send irregulars into the disputed kashmir region which then pakistan made a habbit of in the subsequent conflicts to its own determiment, sending both the countries in this path to hell.
Ben Gurion admired Jinnah the founder of OUR nation, Do you admire our founder too? Ben Gurion's telegram to Jinnah. How does that go down with you?





 
Many have founded a state,,none under so adverse a circumstance may be with the exception of george washington. Israel under ben gurion stood alone against a dozen countries during its first 20 years and survived. If thats not resilience and leadership,, i dont know what is..!!
It's easy when you have the backing of the UK and the US in the creation of your illegal state.
 
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Mostly because they bomb Muslims, partially because they love Israeli women or at least whatever they picture the average Israeli woman to be, and partially because Indians just have a knack for supporting the opposite side of whatever country we are friendly with (Armenia, Greece)

It's easy when you have the backing of the UK and the US in the creation of your illegal state.
I dont think they had backing of the us during their founding years except minor countries like czech supplying avia fighter aircraft. Heck they even attacked the american liberty ship at the time of six day war. But what they did have was hardened experienced jews who fought on the european and middle east battlefields for 4 years. This gave them a massive advantage.
 
We are waiting for the CDF Notification and new office decorations, plus some elections needs to be managed, So Hafiz sab With his Army and Intelligence is busy at the moment.

TTP never stoped, but our Hafiz Sab has other more important priorities to attend to, Oath, Primary Duties gai bhar mae.
Respected sir,

Hafiz Sb is doing great. What do you expect from him ? go in to battlefield directly ? This whole year has showed the performance of military and its really positive. If all he did was oath taking and done nothing we might have had a defeat from India. Air force didn't perform on its own and What Pakistan army did to Indians in Kashmir from 7 to 9 attack.

What is happening from Afghanistan is way difficult to cater than Indians. When they are inside your country you for 2 decades its not easy to fight them and yes with KPK openly supporting Afghanistan people is also a problem for you to consider. Its a complex matter and need to be dealt with slow and steady.
 
Respected sir,

Hafiz Sb is doing great. What do you expect from him ? go in to battlefield directly ? This whole year has showed the performance of military and its really positive. If all he did was oath taking and done nothing we might have had a defeat from India. Air force didn't perform on its own and What Pakistan army did to Indians in Kashmir from 7 to 9 attack.

What is happening from Afghanistan is way difficult to cater than Indians. When they are inside your country you for 2 decades its not easy to fight them and yes with KPK openly supporting Afghanistan people is also a problem for you to consider. Its a complex matter and need to be dealt with slow and steady.
Yes, Agree with you 100%.
I apologize for my bad behaviour.

Regards.
 

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