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[samsite84]

People don’t tolerate it, which is the main reason why military establishment must steal the votes of popular politicians in each & every election!

But till when will people allow the establishment to play with them. I mean look at the last year since Munir took charge. Economy not doing well, Geopolitics many argue here is on up and that I think is right. But Geopolitics doesn't feed people, most countries are fickle and unless you have hard or soft "goods" to offer, talk and agreements are cheap.

 

[Forsvaret]

But Geopolitics doesn't feed people…

But IT IS FEEDING the military establishment and THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS in Pakistan.

 

[El Sidd]

Mujib who won general elections 1970 was a "traitor" or General Yahya who refused to accept the election results?
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Oh wow did he then proceed to form a new country forgoing all history, forgetting Jinnah and all other things associated with Pakistan movement? That's some patriot.

 

[El Sidd]

if you are going to personal attacks and relegion then you have come across a Truth so brutal that you have no way to avoiding.

It's a factual statement. Go cry a Ganga

 

[El Sidd]

so will that be classed as "brain gain" or "brain drain"...

PS which economic book you want me to refer to ?..written by Paul Samuelson or the Field Marshal ?

Definitely brain gain for Afghanistan and others and brain drain for Pakistan. But Pakistanis will happily sacrifice such brain to help Muslim brotherly nations and neighbours.

 

[Meengla]

It is not humor. I am serious!

Seriously speaking, not only the 'Shahadat' [martyrdom] video of Imran's sisters chanting that dangerous slogan, but also when in Nov. 2024 Imran's topmost K-P Gandapur guy with Imran's wife marched on Islamabad they were using 'martyrdom'. And all that for a political cause?!!
Tells you something about the mindset, the ideology which Imran's overseas Pakistani friends ignore or even condone. This is what the 'New Pakistan' vision offered by the Oxford University graduate's party?!!!
Just think about the mindset behind the mob!!

 

[VCheng]

Just think about the mindset behind the mob!!

Yes, I know.

however, one must remember that this is not the only demagogue using this ploy when times are desperate. That is how Bhutto declared Qadianis non-Muslims, and it all went downhill from there deep into the cesspool after Gen Zia ul Mardood.

So, I am not really upset at this crowd any more than many similar others, but I regard them just as misguided and dangerous, but that is typical of ignorant zealots led by crafty liars.

 

[Meengla]

Yes, I know.

however, one must remember that this is not the only demagogue using this ploy when times are desperate. That is how Bhutto declared Qadianis non-Muslims, and it all went downhill from there deep into the cesspool after Gen Zia ul Mardood.
So, I am not really upset at this crowd any more than many similar others, but I regard them just as misguided and dangerous, but that is typical of ignorant zealots led by crafty liars.

Right but with access to information should come opening of minds. Bhutto's Qadiani blunder was half a century ago and per deceased old journalist Ardeshir Cowasjee, Bhutto was not personally comfortable with the Qadiani issue nor he wanted to introduce 'Islam' leading to the 1977 elections, but he caved in to the religious lobbies' pressure. Shameful opportunism but Pakistan was fundamentally still a Sufi oriented nation into even the early 80s, as I witnessed myself, until Zia went onto the overdrive of 'Islamization'.
In case of Imran, this is 2025 where a so-called Oxford Univ graduate who 'knows the West' well, in the Information Age, and still slogans calling for 'martyrdom' and the expat Pakistanis don't see the danger between that and the parallels to the suicide bombing which is almost fashionable in a sliver of Pakistan and a larger part of Afghanistan??

 

[Forsvaret]

Oh wow did he then proceed to form a new country forgoing all history, forgetting Jinnah and all other things associated with Pakistan movement? That's some patriot.

Yeah. He did that AFTER his election mandate was stolen by the military establishment, his supporters raped or killed, and he himself got imprisoned in some jail in West Pakistan — just like Imran Khan!

 

[VCheng]

In case of Imran, this is 2025 where a so-called Oxford Univ graduate who 'knows the West' well, in the Information Age, and still slogans calling for 'martyrdom' and the expat Pakistanis don't see the danger between that and the parallels to the suicide bombing which is almost fashionable in a sliver of Pakistan and a larger part of Afghanistan?

Let us not forget, no matter how big of an idiot he might be, he still is sharp enough to know how to use religion to exploit his cult to the maximum. He deserves at least that much credit.

 

[Forsvaret]

In case of Imran, this is 2025 where a so-called Oxford Univ graduate who 'knows the West' well, in the Information Age, and still slogans calling for 'martyrdom' and the expat Pakistanis don't see the danger between that and the parallels to the suicide bombing which is almost fashionable in a sliver of Pakistan and a larger part of Afghanistan?

And can Khooni Liberals see the difference between martyrdom and a terrorist attack?

 

[El Sidd]

Yeah. He did that AFTER his election mandate was stolen by the military establishment, his supporters raped or killed, and he himself got imprisoned in some jail in West Pakistan — just like Imran Khan!

Why don't you go to Bangladesh today and chant Mujib, we will see if they find your remains under one of his toppled statues.

Bloody half baked fascists.

 

[Forsvaret]

He deserves at least that much credit.

You can’t resist your Bughaz-e-Imran even when you’re giving him credit for something.

 

[Forsvaret]

Why don't you go to Bangladesh today and chant Mujib…

Sheikh Mujeeb’s party Awami League turned fascist under the leadership of his daughter Hasina Wajid, that’s why they’re hated and NOT because he liberated East Pakistan from the clutches of military establishment back in 1971.

 

[El Sidd]

Let us not forget, no matter how big of an idiot he might be, he still is sharp enough to know how to use religion to exploit his cult to the maximum. He deserves at least that much credit.

Adha emaan safai hai type exploitation? But yes it was a brilliant idea to worship a grave to woo voters in central Punjab.