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Vls defensive missiles in kurdistan:
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Back of Sahand:
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In Sahand launchers are traditional canisters, but Kurdestan doesn't have search and fire control radar for such missiles, so I think It is still incomplete. Anyway fitted with VLS It is a great leap. At the sides of the command bridge there is two large satcomms, those suggest wide band data communications. While It is still not a data link, seems to have better situational awareness and security operations. Note those satcomms are still not connected, suggesting It is still near completion.
 
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and a photo already published here but of better quality
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Nice cost effective way of repurposing old ships but I think by now they would have started producing ships of that class with all the expertise they had in doing such projects even one
 
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radar mast is much improved but still no VLS on these ships ...


Destroyer? It's a corvette sized vessel
 
IRIN should stop with Mowj class and move to IRGCN's Soleimani class. They are far more modern, agile and with much more fire power than Mowj. An enlarged Soleimani for IRIN can be much more useful than these conventional Mowjs.

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IRIN should stop with Mowj class and move to IRGCN's Soleimani class. They are far more modern, agile and with much more fire power than Mowj. An enlarged Soleimani for IRIN can be much more useful than these conventional Mowjs.

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They are different ships for different missions. Sure, they are potentially more armed and modern, but then I would imagine them having great difficulty navigating the challenging blue waters, or almost impossible to accompany and escort the motherships Makran, Kordestan, or the aircraft carrier Bagheri across the oceans, a mission the Mowj class has proven it can perform.
I believe the Mowj class doesn't exist as such, but each ship is a class in its own right, even if it uses more or less the same hull;
that is, each is a prototype where they installed or tested what the local industry could produce at the time or, failing that, what they were able to import at the time.
These ships have subsequently undergone modifications thanks to the technical and generational evolution of Iranian systems, but also thanks to or because of positive and negative experiences, including naval accidents.
With the reconstruction of the Sahand, I believe the limit of possible evolution with this hull has been reached, having understood that heavy weapons systems should not be placed too high.
Perhaps something could still be done with a ship similar to the latest rebuilt version of the Sahand, for example, a version dedicated primarily to anti-aircraft defense and only secondarily to anti-ship attack.
To achieve this, the ability to land a helicopter would have to be forgotten, thus freeing up that space for the new anti-aircraft defense configuration.
In any case, the most appropriate step for the Iranian Navy would be to summarize all the experience already gained and move on to a new project to which it could be applied, preferably on a new class of ships with larger displacement and dimensions.
 
Hey I’m horrible at this but you have the photos of the sahand before the capsizing and now something side by side I saw photos of it from before it definitely looks better today than before
 
They are different ships for different missions. Sure, they are potentially more armed and modern, but then I would imagine them having great difficulty navigating the challenging blue waters, or almost impossible to accompany and escort the motherships Makran, Kordestan, or the aircraft carrier Bagheri across the oceans, a mission the Mowj class has proven it can perform.
I agree, traditional hulls are much better suited for high and rough seas.
IMO Deylaman set a new standard. Low observable, fixed phased array radar antennas. But shows the limit of the design.
If IRIN just design a frigate larger with VLS and capable of having a Gas turbine, that frigate would be enough to escort supply shops and base ships around the world with real military capability.
For being an oceanic multirole frigate you need not only a VLS, you need high electric generation capability (turbine gas), hangar for an antisubmarine helicopter and data link. And a 1.500 ton it is not enough.
 
Hey I’m horrible at this but you have the photos of the sahand before the capsizing and now something side by side I saw photos of it from before it definitely looks better today than before
I posted that photo earlier, you just need to scroll up on this page
 
Destroyer? It's a corvette sized vessel
It's a debate that has been debated for years and never resolved.
Today we are moving towards naval gigantism: ships that today are referred to as destroyers due to their size and displacement were classified as "cruisers" until a few decades ago.
Conversely, at the beginning of the 20th century, even ships weighing just over 300 tons and 65 meters long, such as the Italian Zeffiro class, were classified as destroyers.
This leads me to affirm that it is not size that determines the classification of military vessels, but the mission a navy intends they can carry out with the armament available on board.
Another example in the field of classification, in this case as frigates, the Bayandor class were originally classified as Patrol Frigates (PF), that is, 900-ton ships, today, naval gigantism struggles to declare them light corvettes and often relegates them to OPVs.
Another nice classification comes from my Italy, where instead ships of the Thaon di Revel class of over 6000 tons, 143 meters in length and heavily armed are indicated as Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Vessels (PPA - Pattugliatori Polivalenti d'altura in Italian )
 
They are different ships for different missions. Sure, they are potentially more armed and modern, but then I would imagine them having great difficulty navigating the challenging blue waters, or almost impossible to accompany and escort the motherships Makran, Kordestan, or the aircraft carrier Bagheri across the oceans, a mission the Mowj class has proven it can perform.
I believe the Mowj class doesn't exist as such, but each ship is a class in its own right, even if it uses more or less the same hull;
that is, each is a prototype where they installed or tested what the local industry could produce at the time or, failing that, what they were able to import at the time.
These ships have subsequently undergone modifications thanks to the technical and generational evolution of Iranian systems, but also thanks to or because of positive and negative experiences, including naval accidents.
With the reconstruction of the Sahand, I believe the limit of possible evolution with this hull has been reached, having understood that heavy weapons systems should not be placed too high.
Perhaps something could still be done with a ship similar to the latest rebuilt version of the Sahand, for example, a version dedicated primarily to anti-aircraft defense and only secondarily to anti-ship attack.
To achieve this, the ability to land a helicopter would have to be forgotten, thus freeing up that space for the new anti-aircraft defense configuration.
In any case, the most appropriate step for the Iranian Navy would be to summarize all the experience already gained and move on to a new project to which it could be applied, preferably on a new class of ships with larger displacement and dimensions.
A catamaran having difficulties going into blue waters or reduce the speed 10 knots ?
 

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