PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[Forsvaret]

Are you forgetting that we struck them and shot down their plane in IK era?

There is no point arguing with them. All of them get selective amnesia when it comes to PTI / IK. ALL OF THEM!

 

[VCheng]

Who authorised Swift Retort? Are you forgetting that we struck them and shot down their plane in IK era?

So IK had power when he ordered the response, but did not have authority when he ordered the release of Abhinandan?

So which is it: either he had real authority, or he did not. For both.

 

[maverick]

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dang IK

 

[Forsvaret]

So IK had power when he ordered the response, but did not have authority when he ordered the release of Abhinandan?

Yeah. He lost that power because he needed to provide something for @VCheng to criticize and ridicule!

 

[Forsvaret]

So which is it: either he had real authority, or he did not.

He had the authority when @VCheng wanna criticize / ridicule him and he lost that authority the moment @VCheng wanted to praise him!

 

[Forsvaret]

IK is getting mentally tortured in prison by a military ill Hazrat Asim Muneer:

عاصم منیر ایک ذہنی مریض ہے جس کی اخلاقی پستی کی وجہ سے پاکستان میں آئین اور قانون مکمل طور پر ختم ہو چکے ہیں اور کسی بھی پاکستانی کے بنیادی انسانی حقوق اب محفوظ نہیں۔

‏مجھے اور میری اہلیہ کو عاصم منیر کے حکم پر جھوٹے مقدمات میں جیل میں رکھا گیا ہے اور شدید ترین ذہنی ٹارچر کیا جا رہا ہے۔ مجھے مکمل طور پر ایک سیل میں بند کر کے قید تنہائی میں ڈالا ہوا ہے۔ چار ہفتے تک میری کسی ایک انسان سے بھی ملاقات نہیں ہوئی۔ اور بیرونی دنیا سے بالکل بےخبر رکھا گیا، جیل مینؤل کے مطابق دی جانے والی ہماری بنیادی ضروریات بھی ختم کر دی گئی ہیں۔

‏ہائی کورٹ کے احکامات کے باوجود پہلے میری سیاسی ساتھیوں سے ملاقات پرپابندی لگائی گئی اور اب وکلأ اور اہل خانہ سے ملاقات بھی بند کر دی گئی ہے۔ انسانی حقوق کا کوئی بھی چارٹر اٹھا کر دیکھیں ذہنی تشدد بھی "ٹارچر" ہی کہلاتا ہے اور جسمانی تشدد سے بھی ذیادہ سنگین عمل سمجھا جاتا ہے۔

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[gamaji]

since he done the time he should be let go. and in the special circomstances and national interest.

see Indians , Afghans, Taliban, TTP and BLA have all joined and benefiting from the PTI hatred and hostilities towards state institutions of Pakistan.

we need to divide our enemies not unite them. American apporach of hammering every opposition and criticism is not helping.
our state must really raise its game and its conduct
we got PTI leaders/ reps like Adil Raja and Imran's sister giving interviews to Indian channels which is unjustified. why not go to Turkyia or Al jazeera or some Western channel .

while we are typing here.. TTP is using the chaos in KP to its advantage. its insane that our citizens are giving them refuge.

First of all, I am of the view that not a single criminal should be allowed to run away from the justice and avoid punishment. Imran Ahmed Khotakhail has not spent the full imprisonment time yet. The legal process for even more serious crimes are in the pipeline. So, he is expected to be sentenced in multiple more cases. How can you get him off the hook in all those cases?

Just for the sake of argument, if executive somehow gets this convicted criminal out of jail 'in the special circomstances and national interest',
do you think he will play a constructive role in the national politics? Unfortunately he will not.

Imran Ahmed Khotakhail's whole politics is based on deep hatred towards all other political parties and leaders because that's what he was taught and trained by his successive mentors. He has lived on the shortcomings of others rather than his own achievements (btw, zero achievements).

He used to call Bajwa 'qaom ka baap' and then turned against not just Bajwa but the whole military as an institution. All his actions since his disgraceful ouster from power are aimed at disgracing military into grovel and submission to him. The psychopath thinks he can do that. In the process he is willing to keep harming the national fabric and destroying the institutions, and even harming the state itself. It's not without a reason that Indians find their allies in the ranks of yo*thias. It's quite clear now that his strings are being moved from out of Pakistan.

If freed, don't expect him to sit down with other political leaders. Even Achakzai and Maulana Fazalur Rahman, that he is kissing their feet these days, he used to disgrace them in public addresses. He will do the same if he is set free again. Not a single political party of some worth is willing to work with him or trust him.

I think more than enough damage has already been caused to the nation-state of Pakistan by this ugly internal enemy. It's the time to let the law strictly take its own course to deal with the mess. As the political activities on the ground and results of recent by-elections show, PTI is no more a major actor in the country. People are not fools. They see all the negative politics of PTI and so have rejected the repeated calls and appeals of sit-ins made from jail by the convicted criminal.

 

[Forsvaret]

First of all, I am of the view that not a single criminal should be allowed to run away from the justice and avoid punishment.

Name one military general of Pakistan who faced punishment and didn’t run away?

 

[Forsvaret]

The legal process for even more serious crimes are in the pipeline.

Calling Hazrat Asim Munir mentally ill is a serious crime. That should be added to the list of cases against IK!

 

[Forsvaret]

He used to call Bajwa 'qaom ka baap' and then turned against not just Bajwa but the whole military as an institution.

Military is NOT an "institution". It’s simply a department of govt under the ministry of defense as per constitution of Pakistan

 

[Forsvaret]

I think more than enough damage has already been caused to the nation-state of Pakistan by this ugly internal enemy.

Are you talking about the illegitimate ruler of Pakistan aka the military establishment?

 

[MasterChief]

First of all, I am of the view that not a single criminal should be allowed to run away from the justice and avoid punishment. Imran Ahmed Khotakhail has not spent the full imprisonment time yet. The legal process for even more serious crimes are in the pipeline. So, he is expected to be sentenced in multiple more cases. How can you get him off the hook in all those cases?

Just for the sake of argument, if executive somehow gets this convicted criminal out of jail 'in the special circomstances and national interest',
do you think he will play a constructive role in the national politics? Unfortunately he will not.

Imran Ahmed Khotakhail's whole politics is based on deep hatred towards all other political parties and leaders because that's what he was taught and trained by his successive mentors. He has lived on the shortcomings of others rather than his own achievements (btw, zero achievements).

He used to call Bajwa 'qaom ka baap' and then turned against not just Bajwa but the whole military as an institution. All his actions since his disgraceful ouster from power are aimed at disgracing military into grovel and submission to him. The psychopath thinks he can do that. In the process he is willing to keep harming the national fabric and destroying the institutions, and even harming the state itself. It's not without a reason that Indians find their allies in the ranks of yo*thias. It's quite clear now that his strings are being moved from out of Pakistan.

If freed, don't expect him to sit down with other political leaders. Even Achakzai and Maulana Fazalur Rahman, that he is kissing their feet these days, he used to disgrace them in public addresses. He will do the same if he is set free again. Not a single political party of some worth is willing to work with him or trust him.

I think more than enough damage has already been caused to the nation-state of Pakistan by this ugly internal enemy. It's the time to let the law strictly take its own course to deal with the mess. As the political activities on the ground and results of recent by-elections show, PTI is no more a major actor in the country. People are not fools. They see all the negative politics of PTI and so have rejected the repeated calls and appeals of sit-ins made from jail by the convicted criminal.

Thank you for your rant Babu jee. Now go pay tribute to Ameerul Momineen Hazrat Mian Nawaz Sharif RA. And put everyone else in solitary confinement, without visitation rights and no rights to appeal and not hearing their cases for months...... as per your selective legal requirements.

 

[gamaji]

Cowardly hide and spend time with ladies? Were you supplying him these ladies that you know?

Who authorised Swift Retort? Are you forgetting that we struck them and shot down their plane in IK era? Just admit you're barking up the wrong tree here buddy.

You just admitted going hot on LoC would not get India to reinstate the article. So you just disagreed with yourself. Anyone would have trouble understanding what you're trying to say.

You obviously are facing comprehension issues and literally follow the words without getting deeper into what I write. Just a waste of time for me. Good luck with whatever you think. Now go and suck some one else.

 

[Forsvaret]

People are not fools. They see all the negative politics of PTI and so have rejected the repeated calls and appeals of sit-ins made from jail by the convicted criminal.

People are not fools. They see all the negative politics of military establishment and so have rejected the repeated calls and appeals of Hazrat Asim Munir to accept him as the "legitimate" ruler of Pakistan.

 

[Forsvaret]

Now go and suck some one else.

Now go and do more of this: