Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[hydrabadi_arab]

What I see is very mature Indian stance on female pilot shivangi rumor. Twitter was full of posts however Indian remained silent for months.


Now they are quite in rafale. Indian versions ( planes were down but not as much as Pakistan claims).

Shivangi the celebrated Rafale pilot that used to give interviews every week suddenly disappear after 7th May. Reappear 6 months later and is no longer a IAF pilot. Still not have given interview since.

Very transparent just like this.

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[NationalistPKDude132]

What I see is very mature Indian stance on female pilot shivangi rumor. Twitter was full of posts however Indian remained silent for months.


Now they are quite in rafale. Indian versions ( planes were down but not as much as Pakistan claims).

not so fast, shivangi was most fault of pakistani twitter accounts


Remember the DG ISPR had made it CLEAR "no we do not have female pilot" this was made clear by may 11th.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Baibers_1260

1971- Accepted the UN resolution on a ceasefire unilaterally

Yes, after "Tiger" Niazi forced the Indians to take his surrender in Dhaka.

Regards

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

@Baibers_1260

1971- Accepted the UN resolution on a ceasefire unilaterally

Yes, after "Tiger" Niazi forced the Indians to take his surrender in Dhaka.

Regards

1971 was always a lost cause

That pest yahya khan the harami was partying when soldiers were dying

As well as east pakistan and west pakistan were too distant and away.

Do not forget you also lost in 1948 and kutch 1965.

1971 was unfortunately an inevitable loss due to the mistreatment of bangladeshis. you just simply came and exploited the division.

 

[Baibers_1260]

@Baibers_1260



Yes, after "Tiger" Niazi forced the Indians to take his surrender in Dhaka.

After Manekshaw and General Candeth gave up the Chambh Jhaurian corridor and the INS Kukri was sunk with Captain Mahendra Nath Malla saluting as she went down. The PNS Hangor which sunk the INS Kukri sailed home after the ceasefire.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Baibers_1260

Thanks for the history.

Now you can tell us what happened to the Karachi Port in 1971?

And what happened to the Ghazi?- I am told it became Ghazi Shaheed.

Regards

 

[Baibers_1260]

1971 was always a lost cause

That pest yahya khan the harami was partying when soldiers were dying

As well as east pakistan and west pakistan were too distant and away.

Do not forget you also lost in 1948 and kutch 1965.

1971 was unfortunately an inevitable loss due to the mistreatment of bangladeshis. you just simply came and exploited the division.

All that has since been reversed now, I am sure the architects of the East Pakistan Civil War ( Indira, Mujib, Bhutto) looking down at Bangladesh from "above" are wondering if it was all worth it. A lot of lumps of lead from melted 9 mm rounds had to be removed from the ashes of Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi's cremation spot in Raj Ghat Delhi to be put into the Asthi Kalash. Who would have imagined that this would happen.

 

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Question is could those silos and undrr ground facilities sustain a nuclear strike to allow a retaliatory response.

 

[Baibers_1260]

@Baibers_1260

Thanks for the history.

Now you can tell us what happened to the Karachi Port in 1971?

And what happened to the Ghazi?- I am told it became Ghazi Shaheed.

Regards

Thank You for the history
Will tell you if you tell us what happened to Dwarka on 7 and 8 September 1965
Curious if those who went down with the INS Kukhri are listed as Shaheed or Veergati . Was the term Veergati in vogue in 1971 ?

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

@Baibers_1260

Thanks for the history.

Now you can tell us what happened to the Karachi Port in 1971?

And what happened to the Ghazi?- I am told it became Ghazi Shaheed.

Regards

simple fact is, Karachi port works till today and POJK was taken away and to this day it sits with PAk along with GB!

not to mention, Pak and Bangladesh exist today!

now, go live in your glory!

in other words, MA Bharat was divided and carved up!

plain and simple!

 

[studsmart]

To indians, please don't take credit for Ghazi, you have done nothing to hunt it down.

 

[Areesh]

And what happened to the Ghazi?- I am told it became Ghazi Shaheed.

Same thing that happened to ins sindhu rakshak

Accident. An unfortunate accident

 

[Baibers_1260]

Same thing that happened to ins sindhu rakshak

Accident. An unfortunate accident

Yes, and the INS Brahmaputra

 

[Baibers_1260]

Ceasefire with Pakistan and China.
It's good thing Indians are afraid of dying and can only fight ( for a very short time) weaker adversaries, with the 7:1 superiority. Other "less than 4 trillion economy " nations like Russia, who enjoy such superiority over adversaries don't accept ceasefires even when their adversaries "beg" for them.
On the other hand India "begged" and got a ceasefire from China in 1962 and before that in 1949 got a ceasefire from Pakistan then went to the United Nations. In 2020,India agreed to a "disengagement" with China, ( there was no ceasefire since firearms were not used) and China repatriated the 110 Indian "prisoners of war" ( even though there was no war ).
In June 2024 at the Moscow summit between Chinese and Indian foreign ministers, India signed off on the 1959 Line of Actual Control. India had begged for Russian intervention in the aftermath of the Galwan incident.


Indians somehow love the term "begging ". Don't quite understand why. Could be because India is home to the largest population of beggars and panhandlers in the world.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Question for military analysts:
Except for the "Liberation of Goa" in 1960, why does India accept a ceasefire in all conflicts it has fought with non-peer adversaries, and never destroys or weakens an adversary permanently?
Additionally, why doesn't India fight a protracted war against a peer adversary without calling for assistance ?
1. India begged the Soviet Union for assistance when the USA despatched the US Seventh Fleet to the Bay of Bengal in December 1971
2. India begged the USA for air support during its conflict with China in 1962.

Anyone got answers.

There is a partial answer that lies in India's history.
Except for the successful ( and bloody) defense against the Mongol invasions in the late 13th and early fourteenth century, India has never won a war against a foreign invasion.

India has never had in its history a "turning point event" like a revolution, a nation defining civil war, or an epic bloody battle or long protracted war that included a people's resistance.
India has never had a Pearl Harbor, Stalingrad, Dunkirk, Battle of Britain, Gallipoli, Verdun, Guadalcanal, Nanking, like battles in any wars it has fought.
India also never had in its history, an event similar to the Magna Carter, the English Civil War, the French, American, Russian and Chinese revolutions, the American Civil War or any event that politically, economically and socially transformed the nation.
Most nations are willing to show uncompromising courage to accept horrific losses while striving for the ultimate victory.
Even with its size $4 trillion economy and 1.46 billion people India is willing to compromise rather than accept losses and fight on,