France confirms India’s interest in Rafale F5, potential first export customer

[r3alist]

Not asking! Indian is always "demanding" or better o say "expecting" as if anyone needs to

You would think for your own image perception that at some point you stop asking. That's not a good look for a superpower?

It's as if technology transfer is a one and done thing. Not something that has a whole level of human capital, infrastructure and mastery in the underlying science.

 

[Guynextdoor]

This type of talk makes the whole world pay attention, you may get something done in the next 25 years.

yeah -

because a massive brahmos factory with Russia doesn't exist in India
because a massive Chinook and Apache factory doesn't exist in India
because a faclity to make most of Su 30 doesn't exist in HAL
because HAl doesn't already make Snecma helicopter engines
and a 100 more...

because HAL has a market cap of 30 billion - bigger than the top 10 companies of Pakistan combined by putting out press releases only

 

[Baibers_1260]

yeah -

because a massive brahmos factory with Russia doesn't exist in India
because a massive Chinook and Apache factory doesn't exist in India
because a faclity to make most of Su 30 doesn't exist in HAL
because HAl doesn't already make Snecma helicopter engines
and a 100 more...

because HAL has a market cap of 30 billion - bigger than the top 10 companies of Pakistan combined by putting out press releases only

Because 400 of the 800 Migs assembled in India at HAL crashed and Air Chief Marshall A.P Singh had this to say about HAL.

‘We’re just not confident of HAL’: Air chief’s lament

The IAF chief was talking to a group of HAL officials while sitting in the cockpit of the locally produced Hindustan Jet Trainer | India News

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Guynextdoor]

Don't know if these "worked " for India in the past.

- 250 Su 30 MK ( 2002-2012)
- 800 Mig 21s (1963-2025 )
-51 Mirage 2000 ( 1985-1990)
-160 Jaguars 1979 (1979-1985)
-162 Mig 23 (1982 -1988)
-217 Hawker Hunters (1957-1996)
-262 Folland Gnats (1960-1965)
-104 Dassault MD.450 Ouragan( 1953-1967)
- 400 De-Havilland Vampires ( 1948-1955)
- 233 Hawker Tempests ( 1947-1949)

We "dealt with" them all .
(Note : I would have replaced the word "dealt with" by a single word beginning with "F". but as per the forum rules I can't use that word)

if your definition of 'dealt with' is loudly shouting 'dealt with' then I guess what you say makes sense.

 

[Guynextdoor]

Because 400 of the 800 Migs assembled in India at HAL crashed and Air Chief Marshall A.P Singh had this to say about HAL.

‘We’re just not confident of HAL’: Air chief’s lament

The IAF chief was talking to a group of HAL officials while sitting in the cockpit of the locally produced Hindustan Jet Trainer | India News

www.hindustantimes.com

You didn't see the video did you? You just searched for 'me search HAL video' and put the first one that came up.

 

[Baibers_1260]

You didn't see the video did you? You just searched for 'me search HAL video' and put the first one that came up.

Nope.. I watched the video 4 days earlier to that one too.

 

[harpy1]

Why do I feel that some pdf members get very bothered hot and sweaty of yet another Rafale order
On top of the 36 in air force
And 26 Marine Rafales arriving in 2029 onwards

Reliance industry s massive Indian multi national company is going to assembling parts for Rafales for decades

The air force are ordering Rafales once the tech transfer share is approved

This is happening period
Question is
Are they also gearing up for twin seater new version. Of the Su57 as well as the Rafale

That we will know next two days as Putin sits with modi at his residence

 

[Guynextdoor]

Why do I feel that some pdf members get very bothered hot and sweaty of yet another Rafale order
On top of the 36 in air force
And 26 Marine Rafales arriving in 2029 onwards

Reliance industry s massive Indian multi national company is going to assembling parts for Rafales for decades

The air force are ordering Rafales once the tech transfer share is approved

This is happening period
Question is
Are they also gearing up for twin seater new version. Of the Su57 as well as the Rafale

That we will know next two days as Putin sits with modi at his residence

Pak has ONE TENTH of India's defence budget. Let that sink in. What else do you think they can do. The assymetry is so massive you have to hope the weapons never come in.

 

[Ak01]

Why do I feel that some pdf members get very bothered hot and sweaty of yet another Rafale order

because you are insecure and crave validation.

when in reality, the truth of the matter is indian procurement is such a shitshow it will be deep to the neck in scandals, delays and corruption. I dont think this rafale order is a worry for atleast a decade, at which point anyway, both PAF and PLAAF will have moved on.

 

[Guynextdoor]

Nope.. I watched the video 4 days earlier to that one too.

yeah well I saw videos of mostly Indian built Su 30 striking targets in a neighboring country with mostly Indian built Brahmos accurately. Looked pretty acceptable quality to me.

 

[Ak01]

Pak has ONE TENTH of India's defence budget. Let that sink in. What else do you think they can do. The assymetry is so massive you have to hope the weapons never come in.

this is just a feel good measure for you, you and i both know the PAF benefits heavily from Chinese scale of production, but also subsidies...

 

[Baibers_1260]

yeah well I saw videos of mostly Indian built Su 30 striking targets in a mostly Indian built Brahmos accurately. Looked pretty acceptable quality to me.

Which videos? Those done in video labs in Kodambakkam, or the ones done in Peenya ?

 

[r3alist]

because HAL has a market cap of 30 billion - bigger than the top 10 companies of Pakistan combined by putting out press releases only

If only market cap could give you good fighter jets.

The head of your Air force declares having no confidence in hal.

But hey, let's talk about market cap.

 

[Khanivore]

Rafale is best option for India. Massivey popular worldwide with massive manufacturing base in India. We keep ordering the jets, then recover part of spends in manufacturing for exports and self. Also export components, service etc.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/frances-dassault-indias-tata-produce-rafale-fuselage-hyderabad-2025-06-05/

Wait, what happened to your 250+ "Raptor of the East", "The Monster" or "Mini AWACs", that you Indians gave nicknames to, i.e. Su-30MKI?

What's this new obsession with the Rafale?

That's some HARD copium to forget what PAF done to your Rafales.

You guys are so into the Rafale now you even dig up videos of French pilots doing aerobatics in the Alps and you label it as "IAF Rafale having some fun !!!"

 

[r3alist]

this is just a feel good measure for you, you and i both know the PAF benefits heavily from Chinese scale of production, but also subsidies...

It's actually a great compliment to the paf.

Operation sindoor all just for a country 10 times smaller. Wow