PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[PakSword]

Have fun. The majority of voters here are still in favor of PTI lmao:
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And many like me haven't even selected any option. lol wala poll.

 

[Watandar]

No Afghan government has accepted the Durand Line as the international border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They have accepted it, thats what recognition means. Some Afghan requests on trade, free movement of tribes that live on both sides of the border, as well as some demarcation disputes are wrongly portrayed on the Pakistani side as Afghans not accepting the whole border. Its a settled matter as I have mentioned to you multiple times.

But as I have also mentioned, if you want to sell a war with Afghanistan to the world and get dollars, then yeah you can make a mountain out of a molehill like Durand Line.

 

[Abdul q]

I hope there is no foreign element here. Cant accuse anyone without evidence.

I hope its just a case of ego, naivety, being oblivious of the ground reality.

Both sides need to shutup, bring down their egos, and come to an understanding at some point in time. Thats the only way forward.

Maybe certain elements both side of the isle don’t want to see this happen.

Let’s say if there was no foreign element…

How come you can’t form a small peaceful rallly for Palestinians?
How come you display the flag of occupied land of oppressors of on national TV?
How come the army torture/abduct own people?
How come they massacre own people right inside the capital?
How come they spew hate at someone supported by most of Pakistan?
What element is not foreign?

 

[Forsvaret]

It was the strategy that was spearheaded by Imran Khan, and implemented by the military.

Huh? When did the military establishment even start listening to a civilian leader, yet alone implement a civilian national policy on anything?

 

[PakAl]

Credit where due…Raheel sharif’s policy of soft power, combined with offered skills to ones giving up arms while swiftly conducting ops was something i supported at that time no doubt…. But it was same policy as employed by Imran khan later he just amplified it and called on all the people who joined resistance to give up arms and be part of progressive mainstream society taking shape….. he also stopped drone attacks which lessened the likelihood of people to resist

Pmln, PTI. JI, JUI, JD, and a few others groups opposed Raheel Sharif policies, it was PPP, Pmlq, MqmP, Sunni Ittehad Council, backed by sunni and Shia ulema who lobbyed for military action. Raheel Sharif policy worked like you mentioned but for some reason under Bajwa everything was reversed.

 

[Watandar]

Did Imran Khan say modern Afghanistan was a British creation? Or did he only speak of the Durand Line being a British creation?

I am telling you that all these are creations of the British Empire. Why are you insisting on banging your head against the wall of history ?

You know another unfortunate relic of the British empire ? The Pakistan Army.

 

[Night Memory]

Sure, modern Afghanistan is also a British creation, alongwith Durand Line and modern states of India and Pakistan. All this is the legacy of the British Empire. I don't know what exactly what you are moaning about ?

I don't seek Pakistaniyat certificates from you.

You still havent acknowledged Durand Line as an international border. You refuse to answer that part. I wonder why.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Did Imran Khan say modern Afghanistan was a British creation? Or did he only speak of the Durand Line being a British creation?

This was stated at the council of foreign relations. A prime minister of a country denying his own borders.

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[Abdul q]

Huh? When did the military establishment even start listening to a civilian leader, yet alone implement a civilian national policy on anything?

These are people who still think that Bhutto single handedly split Pakistan is two….

 

[Watandar]

You still havent acknowledged Durand Line as an international border. You refuse to answer that part. I wonder why.

I have answered you multiple times And I still don't need your Pakistaniyat certificate

Neither does Imran Khan need any certificate from a govt employee who wears a wardi and hires media and online touts.

Or you

 

[Forsvaret]

Afghanistan never recognized KPK and Balochistan as part of Pakistan, so they haven’t accepted Pakistan as Pakistan.

And the military establishment’s "solution" is to invade Kabul until / unless Afghanistan accepts Pakistan as Pakistan?

 

[unconventional]

You still havent acknowledged Durand Line as an international border. You refuse to answer that part. I wonder why.

Great point. This is the reason why people in Pakistan, besides his few fanboys, have no interest in standing up for him.

This fool made it all about himself, whereas everyone knows that Pakistan is bigger than Imran Khan; and if the choice was between the state of Pakistan and Imran Khan, Pakistanis would overwhelmingly root for the state of Pakistan.

 

[PakAl]

He negotiated a temporary ceasefire without anything in writing and even allowed their fighters to relocate to Pakistan.

They regrouped for a year and started attacking again.

No fighters are present in Pakistan, tribal areas and KPK is full of army, agencies and police. Fighters cross from Afghanistan and use hit and run tactics, ambuses and then either get killed or run back to the mountain region. If fighters are in KPK or tribal areas they be hunted and killed. The issue is they have 1000s of ways to cross the border, and then they hide and attack.

 

[Watandar]

Great point. This is the reason why people in Pakistan, besides his few fanboys, have no interest in standing up for him.

This fool made it all about himself, whereas everyone knows that Pakistan is bigger than Imran Khan; and if the choice was between the state of Pakistan and Imran Khan, Pakistanis would overwhelmingly root for the state of Pakistan.

Pakistan is bigger than army and its touts.

 

[unconventional]

And the military establishment’s "solution" is to invade Kabul until Afghanistan accepts Pakistan as Pakistan?

No, until it stops providing safe havens and sanctuaries to terrorists in Afghanistan; and stops sending terrorists and suicide bombers inside Pakistan.