Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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Pak. didnt need to prove:
1. IAF shot its helo
2. Abhinandan broke instruction bec. of sudden comms 'failure'!
for a primary school kid, things need to be explained!
Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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Pak. didnt need to prove:
1. IAF shot its helo
2. Abhinandan broke instruction bec. of sudden comms 'failure'!
for a primary school kid, things need to be explained!
r3alist
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I cannot say India were within their rights to use them, it of course makes no sense to go after conventional military targets for a counter terrorism operation. Remember the Indians are happy to call this a skirmish when it was meant to be a swift in and out.
To that extent Pakistan could not have done too much about the brahmos, and India has revealed it
Now Pakistan can upgrade to the best Chinese systems and apparently tested hypersonic. And India can continue to avoid China by doubling down on Pakistan
Baibers_1260
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This German TV , DW report says " One of the planes crashed in Pakistan's part of Kashmir and the other went down in Indian-administered Kashmir."
Pakistan military 'shoots down' two Indian aircraft – DW – 02/27/2019
Pakistan says it has shot down two Indian aircraft, a day after Indian warplanes struck inside Pakistan. Tensions have escalated since a suicide car bombing by Pakistan-based militants in Indian-controlled Kashmir.
www.dw.com
Pakistanithinktank
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Iran hosted its first Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) military training exercise, called Sahand 2025, in early December 2025. It was a five-day counterterrorism drill in East Azerbaijan Province, involving multiple SCO member including Pakistan and India. Pakistan army trained Indian army in CounterTerrorism.
Baibers_1260
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Did the Pakistan Army train the Indian Army in CounterTerrorism?
There is no mention of this in the reports from China, Iran or other SCO members,
Iran backs SCO anti-terror cooperation: senior diplomat
Iran backs SCO anti-terror cooperation: senior diplomat-
english.news.cn
Iran’s Guards launch SCO counter-terrorism exercise in northwest
Iran on Monday began a five-day joint counterterrorism exercise with Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in East Azarbaijan province, bringing foreign contingents to a Revolutionary Guards base near Tabriz for what officials call a strategic readiness drill.
I don't think it is going to be advantageous to India, as the trust gap b/w the citizens (not all) and the PA is related to authenticity of information and governance. In case of the hypothetical ominous scenario, there is more likelihood that the trust gap may put India at a disadvantage with more independent and fierce civil defense.
However, this fault line is what I had mentioned earlier that India will try to exploit further, but we have already discussed that in your previous posts.
Let's analyze it with another perspective
Indians conducted operation sindoor to convey the message that India would conduct strikes inside Pakistan whenever there is any terror or militant attack in India or in Iok
Pakistan did its own operation Bunyan marsoos with objective that it won't let Indian strikes unanswered and India would be hit back
Now we had this bomb blast right at Delhi red fort with fatalities in double digit and casualties in dozens
India didn't do any strike inside Pakistan after it. There was not even any talk of strike against Pakistan on BJP owned Indian media. Now Indians can give us bullshit excuse that we don't have enough proofs after Delhi blasts to hit Pakistan but we all know that is nonsense. India never had any proof after Pahalgam attack but government lackey media accused Pakistan within thirty minutes of the attack and started talking about attacking Pakistan within an hour
What changed this time? The answer to this question tells us who succeeded in the four day round in may despite Pakistan wasted time in the name of restraint and allowed India to regroup and attack again. No pothole on some runaway from 10th may can change the fact that India didn't hit Pakistan after Delhi blasts and that shows how successful its adventure in may turned out for it
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Practically looking at it, there is a very slim chance for this due the current near equivalence of military firepower b/w the two countries for the opening phase of any total war.
They can't take us by surprise because of our diligent ISR. Cold Start and Land Bridges are near obsolete under the modern day surveillance.
The best low risk opening hand they have is a missile barrage (Cold Strike) but that takes the conflict from 0-100 on Nuclear Threshold within the first few minutes.
The next best opening hand they have is an all out aeriel invasion but that is extremely high risk, the odds don't favor them establishing air superiority without losing a major chunk of their air force, and if gets into a grind (which is more likely) then it's a very long drawn out war which doesn't favor India even in the event of eventual military victory because it'll come at the cost of their economy - which if doesn't collapse entirely will be weakened to a point where they are defenseless against China for the next few decades.
The only practical low risk strategy available to them is already in play i.e. keep the Western Border engaged and support other insurgencies from inside with the goal of weakening Pakistan's economy again so India can take lead in the arms race once again and try something when they have a clear tech advantage e.g. India's own Satellite Linked C2 Mesh.
PS: we are helping them out on this strategy via current political instability and economic grind
PPS: They can take their chances with the likes of Op Enduring Freedom and try to create an Air Bridge to Islamabad LOL - there were recent SM posts about India conducting Paratroopers Training
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Akshit should change his name to Multipleshitsperday.
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Friends,
Don't know if this is the right place to make an off topic post such as this, but I couldn't find an appropriate thread to send this message. The mods (@Fatman17, @Oscar ) can delete this message hopefully after you have read it. I will take the warnings with a pinch of snuff,
Basically I am going on a long Sabbatical and won't be posting any messages for an extended duration, and hopefully permanently. I say "hopefully permanently" because I will only return if unfortunately another war is unleashed on us by our enemy.
At this point I have very little to contribute to this forum. That could change if the predictions of the unfortunate war in the future come true.
My last post
Hopefully my very last ) :
Here I am addressing the status of the members from our enemy country, to whom we have graciously given space to air their views. This despite the fact that a reciprocal courtesy is not granted to us on enemy defense forums. This is not surprising because our enemy does not even grant space to its own citizens ( identified by religion) to speak, and there are dire consequences for them if they do so, I will not comment on why the enemy members are given so much space here. That is the decision of the administrators of this forum.
Regardless, our courtesy to our guests remains, but as one who are intimately familiar with the enemy culture, ideology, milieu, mindset I do wish to repeat what I have already said elsewhere in a summary:
1. A polite demeanor, proficiency in English and a meticulous writing style, belies the true character of the enemy members here. It is unfortunate that most of our countrymen are ignorant of the "national language " vernacular in use in the enemy country. Reading and understanding messages in that language in their social media will reveal a very different, vulgar, revolting and evil mindset of the majority population. The guest members on this forum are exactly the same as their vernacular language counterparts. .
2. The enemy guest members are obviously representative of the population of their country which would be 85% . There are NO minority or politically dissenting enemy members amongst the guests here, The enemy guest members hate us and wish our total annihilation.
3. All enemy guest members here are paid operatives from IT cells funded and managed by the government backed so called "cultural " organizations. I have listed these multiple times in my previous posts. They co-ordinate closely in a group communicating via their mobile phones, tablets, and computers. Each post and response is carefully weighted proof read by the group and uploaded with immediate support from other group members. The enemy guest members are not individuals but well organized groups. The objective is psychological warfare to demoralize the younger members on this forum.
4. The biggest lie being peddled by the enemy guest members is that the impediment to peace is the actions ( "terrorism" ) by the Pakistani Armed Forces and if the Pakistani Armed Forces are weakened or better still defeated and annihilated somehow peace would prevail. Pakistan is the cause of hatred and war and the enemy is a "peaceful democratic" nation.
5. We all long for peace but the grim reality is that we are currently in the midst of "pause" in a generational war that will resume with the utmost savagery. Not many of us will live to see the end of this final conflict.
I think the mods will allow me to retain my membership so I will continue reading your posts, Thank you for your support and "likes" . I hope I do not have to return here to fight the enemy propaganda in the next war,
Once again thanks for your support, Take care.
@Mighty_Dragon_Strike
The war on this forum
Friends,
Don't know if this is the right place to make an off topic post such as this, but I couldn't find an appropriate thread to send this message. The mods (@Fatman17, @Oscar ) can delete this message hopefully after you have read it. I will take the warnings with a pinch of snuff,
Basically I am going on a long Sabbatical and won't be posting any messages for an extended duration, and hopefully permanently. I say "hopefully permanently" because I will only return if unfortunately another war is unleashed on us by our enemy.
At this point I have very little to contribute to this forum. That could change if the predictions of the unfortunate war in the future come true.
My last post
Hopefully my very last ) : Here I am addressing the status of the members from our enemy country, to whom we have graciously given space to air their views. This despite the fact that a reciprocal courtesy is not granted to us on enemy defense forums. This is not surprising because our enemy does not even grant space to its own citizens ( identified by religion) to speak, and there are dire consequences for them if they do so, I will not comment on why the enemy members are given so much space here. That is the decision of the administrators of this forum.
Regardless, our courtesy to our guests remains, but as one who are intimately familiar with the enemy culture, ideology, milieu, mindset I do wish to repeat what I have already said elsewhere in a summary:
1. A polite demeanor, proficiency in English and a meticulous writing style, belies the true character of the enemy members here. It is unfortunate that most of our countrymen are ignorant of the "national language " vernacular in use in the enemy country. Reading and understanding messages in that language in their social media will reveal a very different, vulgar, revolting and evil mindset of the majority population. The guest members on this forum are exactly the same as their vernacular language counterparts. .
2. The enemy guest members are obviously representative of the population of their country which would be 85% . There are NO minority or politically dissenting enemy members amongst the guests here, The enemy guest members hate us and wish our total annihilation.
3. All enemy guest members here are paid operatives from IT cells funded and managed by the government backed so called "cultural " organizations. I have listed these multiple times in my previous posts. They co-ordinate closely in a group communicating via their mobile phones, tablets, and computers. Each post and response is carefully weighted proof read by the group and uploaded with immediate support from other group members. The enemy guest members are not individuals but well organized groups. The objective is psychological warfare to demoralize the younger members on this forum.
4. The biggest lie being peddled by the enemy guest members is that the impediment to peace is the actions ( "terrorism" ) by the Pakistani Armed Forces and if the Pakistani Armed Forces are weakened or better still defeated and annihilated somehow peace would prevail. Pakistan is the cause of hatred and war and the enemy is a "peaceful democratic" nation.
5. We all long for peace but the grim reality is that we are currently in the midst of "pause" in a generational war that will resume with the utmost savagery. Not many of us will live to see the end of this final conflict.
I think the mods will allow me to retain my membership so I will continue reading your posts, Thank you for your support and "likes" . I hope I do not have to return here to fight the enemy propaganda in the next war,
Once again thanks for your support, Take care.
