Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

the more I think about it, the more I feel about it as a photoshop event only!

Life in denial sounds cozy.

I'd have rather preferred images of destroyed militry infrastructure and high value targets, like totally decimated!
(there is no other way with these zios!)

Good luck penetrating through US and Israeli layered air-defence that starts from Persian gulf to Israel and from space above.

IRGCASF did what nobody else has ever done before. Did not get deterred against duo of a superpower+ global politics & finance controlling high tech regional power. IRGC kept on penetrating through these layers to force a ceasefire, enemy got ZERO war goals achieved (HEU, regime change, civil war, military collapse). Was it enough from a decades long sanctioned country against such high tech enemy? yes.

You cant just touch these Jews more than IRI did otherwise 2 billion strong west with their 50 trillion USD GDP combined, will turn your country into a 3rd world sand rubble of civil war. Try and see. Other muslim countries know this well so they bow down, IRI did not or could afford to do so. Majority in Islamic world run on Jew debts otherwise and will be choked to hunger through sanctions and civil wars through selective funding if Anglo-Jews decide to do so. Good luck against them.

IR did good but did not deliver a decisive blow, but Isrl showed restraint IMHO!

You have no understanding of global power politics. Israel is just a face, you fight with them, Anglo-American-European-Jew billionaires, politicians, tycoons will put entire US, EU, NATO at your back with crippling sanctions, no trade, war etc now tell me who can afford to do this? whole world knows who controls US congress, EU parliament, UNSC ... IRI is run by delusional Islamists so they got Iran entangled in this uncessary mess but Mullahs did up phuck Israeli deterence or aura of invincibility to the ground. Unnecesary yes but facts are facts.

and btw What IRGCASF did to Israel is the max that anyone from Islamic block can achieve, others wont dare because they already live on Western debt and those who can dare, do not have the capability.

one might argue, thats totally pointless, IR fired so many missiles!

So IRI should have done what ?

I'd argue, look at whats been happening inside IR since the war!

gas explosions, fires etc etc

wtf

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Life in denial sounds cozy.



Good luck penetrating through US and Israeli layered air-defence that starts from Persian gulf to Israel and from space above.

IRGCASF did what nobody else has ever done before. Did not get deterred against duo of a superpower+ global politics & finance controlling high tech regional power. IRGC kept on penetrating through these layers to force a ceasefire, enemy got ZERO war goals achieved (HEU, regime change, civil war, military collapse). Was it enough from a decades long sanctioned country against such high tech enemy? yes.

You cant just touch these Jews more than IRI did otherwise 2 billion strong west with their 50 trillion USD GDP combined, will turn your country into a 3rd world sand rubble of civil war. Try and see. Other muslim countries know this well so they bow down, IRI did not or could afford to do so. Majority in Islamic world run on Jew debts otherwise and will be choked to hunger through sanctions and civil wars through selective funding if Anglo-Jews decide to do so. Good luck against them.



You have no understanding of global power politics. Israel is just a face, you fight with them, Anglo-American-European-Jew billionaires, politicians, tycoons will put entire US, EU, NATO at your back with crippling sanctions, no trade, war etc now tell me who can afford to do this? whole world knows who controls US congress, EU parliament, UNSC ... IRI is run by delusional Islamists so they got Iran entangled in this uncessary mess but Mullahs did up phuck Israeli deterence or aura of invincibility to the ground. Unnecesary yes but facts are facts.

and btw What IRGCASF did to Israel is the max that anyone from Islamic block can achieve, others wont dare because they already live on Western debt and those who can dare, do not have the capability.



So IRI should have done what ?



wtf

I understand your POV, I only meant, IR should have completed the job, when zios defenses were down and out!

now, after the war achieving higher rate of missile production is nearly futile!

can you provide list of 10 items/military sites, where significant damage to military site or HVT was caused?!!!


of course, degrading a whole AD is significant milestone itself, but, that did not achieve anything bec. it did not jade ISL penetrative ability!

 

[ToddE]

I understand your POV, I only meant, IR should have completed the job, when zios defenses were down and out!

You against missed the entire post and repeating the same faulty narrative like before. You CANT "COMPLETE THE JOB" against these anglo-american-european-jew mafia that controls the global finances, politics, defense lines. They will cripple you to hunger, civil war, complete collapse if you trye. IRI atleast bruised them the way no one else can. IRI should not have tangled itself in this arab-jew war though.

now, after the war achieving higher rate of missile production is nearly futile!

can you provide list of 10 items/military sites, where significant damage to military site or HVT was caused?!!!

I dont have the time to compile list of videos of Iranian missile passing through. You can google things yourself but for starters here is a Jew compiled list since almost all Iranian wiki entries are western moderated now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_during_the_Iran–Israel_war#Operation_True_Promise_III

of course, degrading a whole AD is significant milestone itself, but, that did not achieve anything bec. it did not jade ISL penetrative ability!

Caused a ceasefire

Israeli aura of invincibility/untouchability has been shattered forever

Israeli war doctrine of "Mad Dog" that it uses on arab countries did not work against Iran because they respected deterrence (Bazan vs Fajr strikes, SPND vs Wiezman and Gav Nev strike)

Western Weapon (layered AD) got beaten by Eastern Weapon (Iranian missiles)

half a ton HEU is still in Iran

IRI regime still in place

Iranian miliatry is more emboldened/war experienced against first world military, now running on three times buget

IAEA no longer monitoring Iranian nuclear program so even if we test 100 nukes in deep tunnels they cant build the case

IRI is selling oil at the highest level in last decade.

What did Israel actually achieve ?

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

You against missed the entire post and repeating the same faulty narrative like before. You CANT "COMPLETE THE JOB" against these anglo-american-european-jew mafia that controls the global finances, politics, defense lines. They will cripple you to hunger, civil war, complete collapse if you trye. IRI atleast bruised them the way no one else can. IRI should not have tangled itself in this arab-jew war though.



I dont have the time to compile list of videos of Iranian missile passing through. You can google things yourself but for starters here is a Jew compiled list since almost all Iranian wiki entries are western moderated now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_during_the_Iran–Israel_war#Operation_True_Promise_III



Caused a ceasefire

Israeli aura of invincibility/untouchability has been shattered forever

Israeli war doctrine of "Mad Dog" that it uses on arab countries did not work against Iran because they respected deterrence (Bazan vs Fajr strikes, SPND vs Wiezman and Gav Nev strike)

Western Weapon (layered AD) got beaten by Eastern Weapon (Iranian missiles)

half a ton HEU is still in Iran

IRI regime still in place

Iranian miliatry is more emboldened/war experienced against first world military, now running on three times buget

IAEA no longer monitoring Iranian nuclear program so even if we test 100 nukes in deep tunnels they cant build the case

IRI is selling oil at the highest level in last decade.

What did Israel actually achieve ?

FFS, stop ranting!

wikipedia page has more details about damage inflicted on IR defense setup!

not only that, each and every strike has quantitative details, along with what output was achieved because of that strike!
(more like, each strike was re-calibrated to cause more punitive damage!)
as for IR strike, even for those listed, details are shady, lets just say!
further, IR attack section has more details on attacks on civilian targets then military HVTs!

whats not disputed though, is the near loss of AD, and, thats about it!

beyond that, is your figment of imagination!

 

[Hayabusa]

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video purports to show Israeli Hermes-900 MALE drone flying over Tehran visible to the naked eye

and an Iranian ambulance was later bombed, possibly by the same drone

Wow.

This is something needs to sort out. You really can't have UCAV flying over your main cities. Air defence needs to be tighter by a greater margin.

I hope Iran learns from this conflict and quickly adapt. They can also study how Pakistan was shooting down Indian drones too.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Wow.

This is something needs to sort out. You really can't have UCAV flying over your main cities. Air defence needs to be tighter by a greater margin.

I hope Iran learns from this conflict and quickly adapt. They can also study how Pakistan was shooting down Indian drones too.

IR AD use guerilla tactics, these drones were used to force IR AD to reveal the location of AD radars and missiles!

IR let them flew them in, so that, Isl airforce can be kept at bay!

 

[Hayabusa]

IR AD use guerilla tactics, these drones were used to force IR AD to reveal the location of AD radars and missiles!

IR let them flew them in, so that, Isl airforce can be kept at bay!

From what I observe, it's not just about revealing SAM sites. An anti-air gun or MANPADs is able to do the job. It's alarming that they are allowed to linger so long and deep within Iran as well

 

[ToddE]

FFS, stop ranting!

You started the delusional rant with "photoshop" claims, no one else did.

wikipedia page has more details about damage inflicted on IR defense setup!

And who denies it? IRI gave the figures of damage that matched even the opposition foriegn funded groups like HRANA. There was no gag order on filming local damage in Iran. Israel did the reverse, they authorized police to even arrest anyone filming damage so who is hiding their casualties and damage?

not only that, each and every strike has quantitative details, along with what output was achieved because of that strike!
(more like, each strike was re-calibrated to cause more punitive damage!)

You have either weak comprehension or memory or both. In my previous post, I properly addressed the issue of this page being moderated by Anti-Iran western moderators. They will use numbers from Israeli media (Jpost, Haaretz, Jerusalem post) but will censor anything that goes against Israel. You are new to this game.

as for IR strike, even for those listed, details are shady, lets just say!

Provide evidence instead of weak subjective opinions.

further, IR attack section has more details on attacks on civilian targets then military HVTs!

whats not disputed though, is the near loss of AD, and, thats about it!

beyond that, is your figment of imagination!

Only figment of imagination at play here is your delusional rant that started with your claim of videos of war being photoshopped. ROFL-Copter those clips came out of Israel and were run on international news channels.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

From what I observe, it's not just about revealing SAM sites. An anti-air gun or MANPADs is able to do the job. It's alarming that they are allowed to liner so long and deep within Iran as well

would still require active radar coverage, which IR chose to hide!
as I understand

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

You started the delusional rant with "photoshop" claims, no one else did.



And who denies it? IRI gave the figures of damage that matched even the opposition foriegn funded groups like HRANA. There was no gag order on filming local damage in Iran. Israel did the reverse, they authorized police to even arrest anyone filming damage so who is hiding their casualties and damage?



You have either weak comprehension or memory or both. In my previous post, I properly addressed the issue of this page being moderated by Anti-Iran western moderators. They will use numbers from Israeli media (Jpost, Haaretz, Jerusalem post) but will censor anything that goes against Israel. You are new to this game.



Provide evidence instead of weak subjective opinions.



Only figment of imagination at play here is your delusional rant that started with your claim of videos of war being photoshopped. ROFL-Copter those clips came out of Israel and were run on international news channels.

no where have I said, videos of missile attacks were photoshopped!

I have said earlier, IR war narrative, is looking like a photoshopped operation bec, since war, they are bent on suppressing news of sabotage activities!

and Im done with you, seems your superiority complex shades not only judgement, it shades your character and mind too!

from the word go, instead of basing argument dissection on facts and figures, whole thrust of your argument has been personal attack!

one more word, and I will put where you belong!

 

[Hayabusa]

would still require active radar coverage, which IR chose to hide!
as I understand

Not sure why they are hiding. My only theory is that they are highly compromised and are not able to defend themselves.

 

[FUB]

Obviously the establishment has access to satellite pics and knows the damage that they inflicted. Unfortunately for us, Israel is hiding the truth which is obvious to most while circulating information above their strikes . Patsrames has a good point today. It took them years and billions in resources to destroy the mixers than were rebuilt in three months . You always learn from your failures . The infrastructure is now safely tucked away inside hardened shelters inside mountains .Here is one of regimes opposition voices .

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[FUB]

At least they admit it and don’t spread Hasabara. It was the ghost of Kiev .

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[Persian Gulf]

At least they admit it and don’t spread Hasabara. It was the ghost of Kiev .

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the problem is not whether they admit it (did they have another choice when they claim they took an Israeli pilot hostage and will show her soon?)

the problem is whether they repeat the same lies or not

 

[Persian Gulf]

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