Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

[Falcon29]

well yeah kind of are similarities to Hamas and Hezbollah situations unless your one to openly hope Hezbollah commits to a fight and have Lebanon face the same and destruction as Gaza do I think sooner or later Hezbollah will respond yeah but truth is you and a few other people have been trying to insult people and groups and your not even being subtle about it it’s not about the group or state as long as it’s your group or state or sect it’s really that simple he’s throwing it back at you I get it but it’s boring to be fair it’s not even funny

Hezbollah establishing deterrence will not result in Lebanon = Gaza.

THe very same attack Israel approved and US green leadership green lit would happen whether Hezbollah responds with 50 rockets a day or 800-1000.

The only difference is if Hezbollah responded with 800 the Israeli's would have to make intelligence reassessments, build more iron dome interceptors and batteries, took more damage, thought twice about any future attacks, would believe Hezbollah is still powerful enough and think twice about attacking Iran nuclear program , maybe even considering such an attack.

You guys want badly for some reason to responding proportionally against Israel will result in destruction of entire country. That will never the equation established. They destroyed Gaza because world gave them permission, and for them they had 1400 KIA and 250-300 hostages in one day.

They're not doing to destroy Lebanon over some rockets fired back. This is Hezbollah propoganda Hezbollah is just scared and also doesn't believe in the cause. Hamas and Islamic Jihad was firing 1,000 rockets a day during Sayf Al Quds in May 2021. The conflict back then was considered minor.

Now the AoR because how they scared they are have made the equation so that one katayshua rocket fired at Israel will result in mass airstrikes all over the country.

This is mostly thanks to Hezbollah and Iranians which are so afraid and making Israeli's feel so powerful. It's not real Israeli deterrence. It's AoR incompetence.

If Hezbollah comes under attack again and doesn't respond with at least 500 rockets a day than Israelis will feel powerful and continue enforcing such an equation.

If Hamas was in Hezbollah's position that's just May 2021 for Hamas. Thats not some dire hopeless situation you guys make out Hezbollah's situation to be. That's being in very good shape still. Minus assassination of their leadership which only happened because they're compromised at leadership level but also leadership that won't enforce red lines, thus increasing Israeli appetite.

Hamas on October 7 didn't enforce Gaza red lines it crossed Israeli red lines. Hezbollah didn't cross any Israeli red lines it just took the hits and Israelis were anticipating a response and deployed lots of Iron Dome for it. But the response never came. They weren't going to hit Lebanon any harder. They executed their entire war game plan on Lebanon. They hit all their Hezbollah target bank.

Hezbollah could of tried at least hitting back properly which would be better for them in long term but they didn't.

Next step for Israel was Lebanese state and military target bank which is much smaller and mostly symbolic to scare the state.

 

[Shags101]

Hezbollah establishing deterrence will not result in Lebanon = Gaza.

THe very same attack Israel approved and US green leadership green lit would happen whether Hezbollah responds with 50 rockets a day or 800-1000.

The only difference is if Hezbollah responded with 800 the Israeli's would have to make intelligence reassessments, build more iron dome interceptors and batteries, took more damage, thought twice about any future attacks, would believe Hezbollah is still powerful enough and think twice about attacking Iran nuclear program , maybe even considering such an attack.

You guys want badly for some reason to responding proportionally against Israel will result in destruction of entire country. That will never the equation established. They destroyed Gaza because world gave them permission, and for them they had 1400 KIA and 250-300 hostages in one day.

They're not doing to destroy Lebanon over some rockets fired back. This is Hezbollah propoganda Hezbollah is just scared and also doesn't believe in the cause. Hamas and Islamic Jihad was firing 1,000 rockets a day during Sayf Al Quds in May 2021. The conflict back then was considered minor.

Now the AoR because how they scared they are have made the equation so that one katayshua rocket fired at Israel will result in mass airstrikes all over the country.

This is mostly thanks to Hezbollah and Iranians which are so afraid and making Israeli's feel so powerful. It's not real Israeli deterrence. It's AoR incompetence.

If Hezbollah comes under attack again and doesn't respond with at least 500 rockets a day than Israelis will feel powerful and continue enforcing such an equation.

If Hamas was in Hezbollah's position that's just May 2021 for Hamas. Thats not some dire hopeless situation you guys make out Hezbollah's situation to be. That's being in very good shape still. Minus assassination of their leadership which only happened because they're compromised at leadership level but also leadership that won't enforce red lines, thus increasing Israeli appetite.

Hamas on October 7 didn't enforce Gaza red lines it crossed Israeli red lines. Hezbollah didn't cross any Israeli red lines it just took the hits and Israelis were anticipating a response and deployed lots of Iron Dome for it. But the response never came. They weren't going to hit Lebanon any harder. They executed their entire war game plan on Lebanon. They hit all their Hezbollah target bank.

Hezbollah could of tried at least hitting back properly which would be better for them in long term but they didn't.

Next step for Israel was Lebanese state and military target bank which is much smaller and mostly symbolic to scare the state.

Ok your opinion how about we just start focusing on Gaza and Palestinians truth is he only goes on attack mode because you tend to start it first you post something derogatory about Hezbollah Iran or aor than reply to it yourself than reply to that again to yourself remember we used to make fun of those guys daylomite warrior or whatever he was called I’m just saying you need to chill out I have been subtlety telling you this for awhile and not so subtlety anymore your not even making sense anymore and I used to like reading your posts

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Falcon29]

Ok your opinion how about we just start focusing on Gaza and Palestinians truth is he only goes on attack mode because you tend to start it first you post something derogatory about Hezbollah Iran or aor than reply to it yourself than reply to that again to yourself remember we used to make fun of those guys daylomite warrior or whatever he was called I’m just saying you need to chill out I have been subtlety telling you this for awhile and not so subtlety anymore your not even making sense anymore and I used to like reading your posts

I have a better suggestion. Some things are out of our control. AoR guys tend to have narcassistic trait where they want to control the discussion. They'd be better off letting people do their commentary and analysis. Instead of trying to shove their views down others throat.

 

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[Persian Gulf]

Is Hamas going to respond to Israel violating the ceasefire to kill its top commander?

The US brokered this ceasefire and Trump is very keen to uphold the ceasefire, Hamas has leverage to respond and blame Israel for clearly violating Trump's ceasefire.

 

[Dalit]

….moving back to Gaza war…….

What is there to talk about Gaza war?

 

[Falcon29]

Zionists are upset at Trump administration. They never once looked inward and asked if carpet bombing an entire territory + committing genocide means they lose freedom of action in Gaza for time to come?

Do they still believe they will recover from the Gaza genocide ? It will never be the same

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[Falcon29]

Israel is a net negative it's going to be discarded

It was considered a beneficial two way relationship before the Hamas operation on 10/7.

There was Abraham Accords, Israel was considered as a balance against Arabs/Turkey and AoR.

After AoR was exposed as being very weak, Iran nuclear program knocked out, Iran exposed as weak (anyone can violate their airspace even Iraq), and after Israel committed a horrific genocide blowing up tensions around the world, taking weapons from the US then bombing allies like Qatar, doing crazy unpopular actions making EU terrified of what a crazy terrorist nation its become, the US will move on from this menace of a nation that's caused them irreversible damage over last two years.

All because their crazy out of control bloodlust. Even Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner went into Gaza with IDF asked why they burned the place to the ground and didn't get convincing reason. And said it looked like a nuclear bomb went off over Gaza.

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[Persian Gulf]

Israel would definitely love this to be true but absolutely not.

Fighting some bunch of none state actors inside a place smaller then one district of Islamabad for more then 2 years that ain´t victory

you are correct that there is a huge asymmetry in power but war doesn't have to be fair. in such a lopsided equation you would expect the stronger party to achieve significant tactical and strategic victories, and that's what they did. even though the methods used to achieve those victories were criminal and barbaric.

 

[Shags101]

Is Hamas going to respond to Israel violating the ceasefire to kill its top commander?

The US brokered this ceasefire and Trump is very keen to uphold the ceasefire, Hamas has leverage to respond and blame Israel for clearly violating Trump's ceasefire.

So Israel violated the ceasefire doesn’t mean anything what are they going to penalize Israel like how tell them you have to move your yellow line 2 feet the ceasefire was only to monitor fighters in Gaza Israel is playing games who can be on the peacekeeping force they know if turkey were to be a part or head it Hamas would fall in line because it would be at least some kind of guarantee of stability Israel doesn’t want that and the few Arab or Muslim countries they deem “acceptable” won’t participate because they fear the backlash at home if they kill Palestinians

 

[Persian Gulf]

So Israel violated the ceasefire doesn’t mean anything what are they going to penalize Israel like how tell them you have to move your yellow line 2 feet the ceasefire was only to monitor fighters in Gaza Israel is playing games who can be on the peacekeeping force they know if turkey were to be a part or head it Hamas would fall in line because it would be at least some kind of guarantee of stability Israel doesn’t want that and the few Arab or Muslim countries they deem “acceptable” won’t participate because they fear the backlash at home if they kill Palestinians

the Hamas mediators have gone very quiet

Trump is personally invested in this ceasefire and will be keen to preserve it, so Hamas has some room to respond to a clear and major violation by Israel

unlike in Lebanon, where Trump is supporting Israel's desire to totally disarm Hezbollah by force and he doesn't care about that ceasefire at all, so Israel has much more room to act there

 

[eIsQengiz]

I know it is just TikTok, but I like how Tunisians are currently drinking Coca Cola en masse

It is the simple truth: even most Arabs hate Palescumians. All their display of solidarity is just total fake. They are only in solidarity if they don't have to make the slightiest sacrifice, but the moment a harmless thing happens like currently in soccer, their entire empathy is gone and they show their true face!

You would think Tunisians would be happy for the Palescumian soccer team, but it is exactly the opposite!

Nice job Tunisians

You dehumanise entire peoples homoiin. That kind of rhetoric usually comes from insecurity and projection. I’ve seen this pattern among some Tunisians and Iranians in the diaspora who internalise an inferiority complex and redirect it by opposing Palestinians instead of confronting their own identity crisis.

Among majority Iranian diaspora circles, anti-Muslim and anti-Arab bigotry is common. Arabs and Islam are blamed for everything, while the Iranian government’s corruption and repression are conveniently ignored. The constant claim that “all the money goes to Palestinians instead of Iranians” mirrors Zionist talking points rather than serious political analysis.

No matter how much you try to appeal to Western approval or distance yourself from Muslims and Arabs, the West will still see you as foreign. Claiming proximity to whiteness or invented racial superiority won’t change that reality it only exposes how deeply the internalised racism runs.