Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

Persian Gulf said:
the Hamas mediators have gone very quiet

Trump is personally invested in this ceasefire and will be keen to preserve it, so Hamas has some room to respond to a clear and major violation by Israel

unlike in Lebanon, where Trump is supporting Israel's desire to totally disarm Hezbollah by force and he doesn't care about that ceasefire at all, so Israel has much more room to act there
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They can hit troops trump will call it awash if he doesn’t see any profit or praises coming from it and the Aran mediators are just for show they have nothing to mediate unless they get some actually troops on the ground
 
Persian Gulf said:
Is Hamas going to respond to Israel violating the ceasefire to kill its top commander?

The US brokered this ceasefire and Trump is very keen to uphold the ceasefire, Hamas has leverage to respond and blame Israel for clearly violating Trump's ceasefire.
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What leverage? Look at the devastation in Gaza, the genocide, and forced starvation. They want any reason to blame Hamas and restart it.

Both Lebanon and Gaza are in bad shape. The difference though is that Hamas did all it could. Gaza was under siege for years while Lebanon had an open supply line from Syria. Everything Hezbollah stock piled was for nothing. They hesitated and lost their deterrence.

Hezbollah folded pretty easily and I don’t blame them. They don’t want their people to suffer the same fate as the people of Gaza from this genocidal state. Hezbollah also had very bad intelligence failures and were very compromised unlike Hamas in Gaza.
 
Falcon29 said:
Hezbollah establishing deterrence will not result in Lebanon = Gaza.

THe very same attack Israel approved and US green leadership green lit would happen whether Hezbollah responds with 50 rockets a day or 800-1000.

The only difference is if Hezbollah responded with 800 the Israeli's would have to make intelligence reassessments, build more iron dome interceptors and batteries, took more damage, thought twice about any future attacks, would believe Hezbollah is still powerful enough and think twice about attacking Iran nuclear program , maybe even considering such an attack.

You guys want badly for some reason to responding proportionally against Israel will result in destruction of entire country. That will never the equation established. They destroyed Gaza because world gave them permission, and for them they had 1400 KIA and 250-300 hostages in one day.

They're not doing to destroy Lebanon over some rockets fired back. This is Hezbollah propoganda Hezbollah is just scared and also doesn't believe in the cause. Hamas and Islamic Jihad was firing 1,000 rockets a day during Sayf Al Quds in May 2021. The conflict back then was considered minor.

Now the AoR because how they scared they are have made the equation so that one katayshua rocket fired at Israel will result in mass airstrikes all over the country.

This is mostly thanks to Hezbollah and Iranians which are so afraid and making Israeli's feel so powerful. It's not real Israeli deterrence. It's AoR incompetence.

If Hezbollah comes under attack again and doesn't respond with at least 500 rockets a day than Israelis will feel powerful and continue enforcing such an equation.

If Hamas was in Hezbollah's position that's just May 2021 for Hamas. Thats not some dire hopeless situation you guys make out Hezbollah's situation to be. That's being in very good shape still. Minus assassination of their leadership which only happened because they're compromised at leadership level but also leadership that won't enforce red lines, thus increasing Israeli appetite.

Hamas on October 7 didn't enforce Gaza red lines it crossed Israeli red lines. Hezbollah didn't cross any Israeli red lines it just took the hits and Israelis were anticipating a response and deployed lots of Iron Dome for it. But the response never came. They weren't going to hit Lebanon any harder. They executed their entire war game plan on Lebanon. They hit all their Hezbollah target bank.

Hezbollah could of tried at least hitting back properly which would be better for them in long term but they didn't.

Next step for Israel was Lebanese state and military target bank which is much smaller and mostly symbolic to scare the state.
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This genocide has shown that those unguided rockets are ineffective besides putting people in a panic, going to bomb shelters, and hurting the economy in the beginning stages when large volumes could be shot.

How many deaths were caused by those rockets? How much devastation was caused by them? U.S. stockpiles of missiles for their iron dome were sufficient in supply to neutralize threats caused by those rockets. Some rockets made it through but with early warning system, Iron dome, and inaccuracy of those rockets they were largely ineffective. People in Israel carried on with their life while Gaza and Lebanon were carpet bombed ( much more so in Gaza).

Lebanon is going to have to rethink its strategy in dealing with their genocidal neighbor.

Gaza is in a very dire situation considering it’s also under siege and the devastation on the ground.
 
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Unknowntruth said:
Who you calling scum?

Dog
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He has a mental breakdown every time Khaled Meshaal says something.

Khaled Meshaal the other day said Hamas has allies in the AoR but we aren't apart of the AoR alliance

Homojinn then came here few hours later ranting about Palestinians 😅😅
 
Unknowntruth said:
This genocide has shown that those unguided rockets are ineffective besides putting people in a panic, going to bomb shelters, and hurting the economy in the beginning stages when large volumes could be shot.

How many deaths were caused by those rockets? How much devastation was caused by them? U.S. stockpiles of missiles for their iron dome were sufficient in supply to neutralize threats caused by those rockets. Some rockets made it through but with early warning system, Iron dome, and inaccuracy of those rockets they were largely ineffective. People in Israel carried on with their life while Gaza and Lebanon were carpet bombed ( much more so in Gaza).

Lebanon is going to have to rethink its strategy in dealing with their genocidal neighbor.

Gaza is in a very dire situation considering it’s also under siege and the devastation on the ground.
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Definitely not a fan of rockets that no matter how nice they are aren’t equipped with a guidance system aren’t really going to put a dent in Israel’s military or civilian infrastructure minus the initial first day and most of the destruction was directed for the most part at bases within gazas view for their surprise attack.
Yasin anti tank weapon and those homemade land mines were a better investment and if the reports were true perhaps if they had waited another year or longer they could have had operational cruise missiles but I think Hamas was more worried about Saudi Arabia normalizing relations with Israel so they went on the offensive again for better or worse only the future will decide
 
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He has a mental breakdown every time Khaled Meshaal says something.

Khaled Meshaal the other day said Hamas has allies in the AoR but we aren't apart of the AoR alliance

Homojinn then came here few hours later ranting about Palestinians 😅😅
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i don’t know who he is but it’s best to ignore him. Main thing is our focus on exposing Zionist genocidal criminals.
 
Shadi hassan said:
Definitely not a fan of rockets that no matter how nice they are aren’t equipped with a guidance system aren’t really going to put a dent in Israel’s military or civilian infrastructure minus the initial first day and most of the destruction was directed for the most part at bases within gazas view for their surprise attack.
Yasin anti tank weapon and those homemade land mines were a better investment and if the reports were true perhaps if they had waited another year or longer they could have had operational cruise missiles but I think Hamas was more worried about Saudi Arabia normalizing relations with Israel so they went on the offensive again for better or worse only the future will decide
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I’m surprised they put up a fight this long considering those have very basic weapons; under siege, constant bombardment, and surveillance by many countries complicit in this genocide.

Gaza is a very small enclave, it is amazing that it took them 2 years and carpet bombing everything in sight yet fail in disarming Hamas.

There are not enough numbers for the rockets to make a difference especially considering they do very minor damage. Iran even failed with their much powerful and sophisticated missiles.

Iran itself figured out that a large missile arsenal is useless without fighter aircraft and advanced defense systems to confront a powerful Air Force. Within a few days, Iran was shooting very small number of missiles. Their underground bunkers became useless when Israeli aircraft was bombing the entrances and preventing any missile sites from being dug out.
 
These are Zionists

Saying students that got shot up at a University had it coming

They probably used one of their demon jinns to possess someone and order him to do a shooting

Zionists are using black magic and should be held to trial for it

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mulj said:
Jews are now enabling war between xtians and muslims over their slave network in usa, they already started training their evangelical foot soldiers from america for hasbara activities but this time on religious base. That one is their last tool to behind as they lost reputation with any normal people.
On the other side shame and silence around the muslim world which is maybe better to avoid further humiliation as itself is in really pitiful condition in terms of unity and moral awareness not to mention technical capability to resist in any form.
Tough times ahead, Gaza showed to the world that muslims are not subjects of current world affairs just sitting and paralyzed objects with narrow agency and you all know what happens to such.
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There are fringe trolls manufacturing hostility. They've been at it for a long long time... guys like Stephen Yaxley in Britain and Stephen Miller here in the US with their collection of minors and villains straight out of scoobydoo characters.
There are many who see through the frosted glass and others who just choose not to
 
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