hasssanali8998
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this is like making paella when you have seafood allergies , you can only smell it and not eat it
Iranian Missiles | News and Discussions
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ToddE
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ICBM is not for this purpose otherwise ICBM possessing superpowers wont be having Airforces, Drones, CMs ...
muhammed45
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I was referring to gliding vehicles. If you find someone to take pictures of your desired locations, you can guide it with pre programmed warheads and real time navigation.
I know that there are many challenges to this idea and it looks crazy but i am sure that its the way forward.
The whole idea of nuclear armed warheads is to lessen impact of poor CEP of ICBMs.
Look at precision of Oreshnik and its unimaginable speed at that range. It wasn't a simple test, its accuracy and range left western powers shitless scared. Russians are pioneers in this field.
ToddE
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Illogical for Value/Cost balance. No one would waste two solid fueled stages and a PBV/MaRV for taking out one stupid target some 5000 KM away. There is a reason IRGCASF did not launch many multistaged Sejjil-II or K-4 PBVs during the war. Cold war analysts learnt this early so they focused on Airpower, PGMs, SOWs Cruise missiles while Nukes and ICBMs ensured stategic deterence (missing in Iran due to no nukes).
ICBM is for nuclear strike, otherwise its a waste of space.
Persian Gulf
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first we should make our MRBMs a pinpoint attack platform
kimjongun
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YOU CANT WIN WARS WITH BALLISTIC MISSILES...
Iran needs to do heavy lobbying to get russian aircrafts presumably su30-35 with larger weight carrying capacities for ALBMs...Ballistic missile are pocket heavy..so longer ranged cruise missiles would be needed that can reach telaviv...or even more drones...
hasssanali8998
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i don't think their missiles are that accurate at that range .
Flotilla
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Also IRI keep his frontier in any hypothetical nuclear deal in the enrichment capability. Therefore It mus be assumed that even if a deal is reached, IRI will master all nuclear weapons cycle. By the way, after breaking all cooperation with IAEA in El Cairo in september, nobody is watching any part of Irán nuclear program so the clock is running. And day after day more and more missiles are added to the Iranian inventory.
muhammed45
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We are not allowed to use nuclear weapons and it has religious reasons.
Imagine you want to target USA's military bases or WMD bases and take out a couple of governmental figures such as Trump or the US war minister in worst case scenario.
It will be effective and worth of planning for.
Those claiming Iranian missiles are not accurate while eructing, are out of touch to say the least.
muhammed45
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Actually, there are solutions to make gliding vehicles a pinpoint attackers, i can mention a couple of them.
1) better gyroscopes and accelerometers. Such as fiber optic gyros and better sensors to reduce accumulated errors increased by increasing range of the missile
2) increase velocity of launch phase using hypergolic propellants
3) Reducing drifts
4) midcourse correction through employing newer solutions for rel-time navigation
5) viberation damping
6) heat-shielding, better aerodynamics and predictive controls which eventualy leads to reduction of errors in re-entry phase
7) better super computers for faster and more robust computing power which is a must for all the mentioned solutions. This one case is absolutely critical and necessary to have pinpoint capability and unfortunately we heavily rely on foreign sources in this one case. However, i have heard from credible sources that some forces are already involved in local production of sensitive subsystems and they will keep us intact in case we get disconnected with the whole world.
8) a complete constellation for better and most error-less navigation. Iran is already working on this part, Russia is launching the required sats in exchange for IRGC developed drones. (a deal with Russia mentioned by martyr Gen. Hajizdeh)
1) better gyroscopes and accelerometers. Such as fiber optic gyros and better sensors to reduce accumulated errors increased by increasing range of the missile
2) increase velocity of launch phase using hypergolic propellants
3) Reducing drifts
4) midcourse correction through employing newer solutions for rel-time navigation
5) viberation damping
6) heat-shielding, better aerodynamics and predictive controls which eventualy leads to reduction of errors in re-entry phase
7) better super computers for faster and more robust computing power which is a must for all the mentioned solutions. This one case is absolutely critical and necessary to have pinpoint capability and unfortunately we heavily rely on foreign sources in this one case. However, i have heard from credible sources that some forces are already involved in local production of sensitive subsystems and they will keep us intact in case we get disconnected with the whole world.
8) a complete constellation for better and most error-less navigation. Iran is already working on this part, Russia is launching the required sats in exchange for IRGC developed drones. (a deal with Russia mentioned by martyr Gen. Hajizdeh)
muhammed45
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Except for number 7 and 8, Iran is a matured missile power in other fields.
However, in both cases, Iran has long term plans. 7th case, Iran is not lagging behind others, we just need to improve the existing systems. The 8th case need time and effort, Iran is already busy with completing it.
Mr Iran Eye
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Sorry, but if the intercontinental missile is a thermobaric weapon and is launched in a strategic location in the USA, it can cause a lot of damage.
hasssanali8998
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also if it is not allowed then please tell me why u enriched uranium to 60 percent . u wanted to have Israel like ambiguity but you failed miserably
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hasssanali8998
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not as much as a nuke .
