AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

[Watandar]

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What do the authorities achieve by arresting some telegenic social media personalities ?? Only their own infamy. It would have been more effective to ignore social media and to resolve the grievances of the people.

 

[hussain0216]

What do the authorities achieve by arresting some telegenic social media personalities ?? Only their own infamy. It would have been more effective to ignore social media and to resolve the grievances of the people.

I don't think they care anymore

Democracy was chaotic, now the system is finally under control and they can start pushing through reform and start securing Pakistan

Any group of people can chimp out as much as they like as long as they don't cause violence

So now finally they are rounding up massive amounts of Afghans
Even in Punjab and sindh they have started to go after Afghan businesses without licences or not run by Pakistani citizens

They are going to finish subsidies

Get control of the borders

Push back against any and very ethnocentric blackmailing



As long as no one resorts to violence they can have as many protests and jalsas as they want, the more the merrier


Pakistans foreign policy is superb at the moment
Multiple things are happening at the same time
Not only did they humiliate India last year they've managed to corner India on multiple fronts, even if UAE has been a loss, it's bearable

For a chaotic nation like Pakistan, this is vital for our future

The Pakistani public will be hook or crook be forged into a asset for the country

 

[Goenitz]

I don't think they care anymore

Democracy was chaotic, now the system is finally under control and they can start pushing through reform and start securing Pakistan

Any group of people can chimp out as much as they like as long as they don't cause violence

So now finally they are rounding up massive amounts of Afghans
Even in Punjab and sindh they have started to go after Afghan businesses without licences or not run by Pakistani citizens

They are going to finish subsidies

Get control of the borders

Push back against any and very ethnocentric blackmailing



As long as no one resorts to violence they can have as many protests and jalsas as they want, the more the merrier


Pakistans foreign policy is superb at the moment
Multiple things are happening at the same time
Not only did they humiliate India last year they've managed to corner India on multiple fronts, even if UAE has been a loss, it's bearable

For a chaotic nation like Pakistan, this is vital for our future

The Pakistani public will be hook or crook be forged into a asset for the country

have u ever wondered if the state is serious about corruption? Metro bus is closing down on 11 Aug in Lahore. If not, then the Army does not care about Pakistan, as managing finances is more important than narrative or anything.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Do you believe that 3 million bangladeshis were killed by 40,000 Pakistani soldiers in 9 months?

Of course I don't..... and no one without a vested interest seriously accepts that figure....... But that's a funny little attempt at deflection...... I never quoted those figures, nor did anyone else..... It's you who is effectively denying the mass killings and rapes of Bengalis by the Pakistan Army in 1971.....

3 million or 30,000, mutual or lopsided, the atrocities happened, and the men in uniform shouldn't have done that under any circumstances....

The even funnier part is that you keep demanding neutral evidence, yet when it comes to Bangladesh, you dismiss not only independent reports but also Pakistan's own Hamoodur Rahman Commission, which acknowledged and documented killings, rape and other serious abuses by the Pakistan Army......

So, my friend, you are denying established facts while simultaneously attacking those who repeat the 3 million figure..... You are two sides of the same coin..... one side exaggerates the numbers, the other uses disputed numbers to cast doubt on the underlying atrocities......

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Of course I don't..... and no one without a vested interest seriously accepts that figure....... But that's a funny little attempt at deflection...... I never quoted those figures, nor did anyone else..... It's you who is effectively denying the mass killings and rapes of Bengalis by the Pakistan Army in 1971.....

3 million or 30,000, mutual or lopsided, the atrocities happened, and the men in uniform shouldn't have done that under any circumstances....

The even funnier part is that you keep demanding neutral evidence, yet when it comes to Bangladesh, you dismiss not only independent reports but also Pakistan's own Hamoodur Rahman Commission, which acknowledged and documented killings, rape and other serious abuses by the Pakistan Army......

So, my friend, you are denying established facts while simultaneously attacking those who repeat the 3 million figure..... You are two sides of the same coin..... one side exaggerates the numbers, the other uses disputed numbers to cast doubt on the underlying atrocities......

Okay, then can you prove if there were killings in AJK by Pakistani security forces WITHOUT using pro-zionist/pro-hindutva media sources and news outlets?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Okay, then can you prove if there were killings in AJK by Pakistani security forces WITHOUT using pro-zionist/pro-hindutva media sources and news outlets?

Forget about international media, as we have already seen, you don't even accept Pakistani sources, UN or organizations like Amnesty Int when they go against your preconceived mindset and interests..... Trying to prove something to someone who openly dismisses established facts is a practice in futility.....

Still, for the benefit of readers, HRCP itself has regularly documented serious human rights abuses in AJK, including murders committed by Pakistani security forces....... A detailed report about the current unprecedented killings, which HRCP has already called out, will soon be documented too, probably as soon as the current fascist regime falls......You can download its fact finding reports from their website....

 

[Goenitz]

Forget about international media, as we have already seen, you don't even accept Pakistani sources when they go against your preconceived mindset and interests..... Trying to prove something to someone who openly dismisses established facts is a practice in futility.....

Still, for the benefit of readers, HRCP itself has regularly documented serious human rights abuses in AJK, including murders committed by Pakistani security forces....... A detailed report about the current unprecedented killings, which HRCP has already called out, will soon be documented too, probably as soon as the current fascist regime falls......You can download its fact finding reports from their website....

Al Jazeera is not pro zionist.
Anyway, people sometimes believe (there is fire) by intuition (smoke), by seeing (seeing flame) or by evaluating (the flames are real or not some trick). Then there are some who could still deny.
It is ok until religion, killing or some grave atrocity is committed.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Al Jazeera is not pro zionist.
Anyway, people sometimes believe (there is fire) by intuition (smoke), by seeing (seeing flame) or by evaluating (the flames are real or not some trick). Then there are some who could still deny.
It is ok until religion, killing or some grave atrocity is committed.

Ilm-ul-Yaqeen......Ayn-ul-Yaqeen, and Haqq-ul-Yaqeen........... but the deniers are going to deny everything anyway.... You can't make someone see what they have already decided not to see......

 

[hussain0216]

have u ever wondered if the state is serious about corruption? Metro bus is closing down on 11 Aug in Lahore. If not, then the Army does not care about Pakistan, as managing finances is more important than narrative or anything.

And we need to sort that out as well, corruption is poison

But we can't change anything with constant fassad, chaos and ethnic blackmailing

We are finally making moves, finally linking up with multiple countries

We need to now translate that to investment, jobs, visas and make Pakistan a strong nation


Not everything is about Imran this and Baloch that and Kashmiri blah blah blah
It's not possible to bend to the demands of every group or idiot at the cost of the state

 

[Mujahid]

And we need to sort that out as well, corruption is poison

But we can't change anything with constant fassad, chaos and ethnic blackmailing

We are finally making moves, finally linking up with multiple countries

We need to now translate that to investment, jobs, visas and make Pakistan a strong nation


Not everything is about Imran this and Baloch that and Kashmiri blah blah blah
It's not possible to bend to the demands of every group or idiot at the cost of the state

Until our rupee is devalued we will have such instability.. Make 1 rupee equal to any foreign currency this terrorism or chaos (Whatever u want to name it) will die down..