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Israeli media: Israel's tactical victories during the 12 day war did not translate into strategic achievements, and another round of conflict will not achieve the desired outcomes
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Half a year after the "Rising Lion" war, it appears that despite Israel's impressive achievements, little has fundamentally changed. Iran is rebuilding its missile array, rehabilitating its nuclear capabilities, and remains unwilling to accept an agreement that would prevent it from enriching uranium on its own soil or limit its nuclear program. Worse still, Tehran is preparing for another confrontation with Israel, seeking to implement the lessons it drew from the previous war. The Iranian regime continues to grapple with complex internal challenges, yet even now there is no opposition that appears to threaten its future.
However, these operational successes did not translate into a true strategic achievement, because from Tehran's perspective, Iran did not actually lose the war. In Iran's view, it not only managed to continue launching missiles until the final day of the fighting and stood firm against Israel and the US, but Israel also failed in what Tehran perceived as an attempt to topple the Iranian regime. Even if this was not the declared objective of the campaign, Iran interpreted Israel's actions, particularly the strike on Evin Prison and Basij headquarters, as moves aimed at regime change, in line with statements made by senior Israeli officials on the matter.
This reality, together with Iran's understanding that another round with Israel is only a matter of time, is driving Tehran toward a conventional arms race, with an emphasis on rebuilding its missile array while, in its view, implementing the lessons of the previous campaign to improve its capabilities. Moreover, in the nuclear arena, despite the severe damage to nuclear sites that prevents Iran from returning to industrial-scale enrichment that brought it to the threshold of military-grade enrichment, the knowledge that exists in Iran, combined with centrifuges that were not damaged and nuclear sites such as "Mount Kolang Gaz" south of Natanz, enable it at some point in the future to resume enrichment in a way that would allow it to take the enriched material already in Iran, including 408 kilograms enriched to 60 percent, and enrich it to military grade.
Moreover, every day that passes without a diplomatic agreement that restricts Iran's force buildup significantly erodes Israeli achievements. Iran's supreme leader has appointed experienced figures to replace those who were killed, and Tehran is currently pursuing Russia and China in an effort to acquire new capabilities in air defense, missiles, and perhaps even nuclear technology.
Ultimately, it is precisely the success of the "Rising Lion" war that necessitates renewed Israeli thinking on the Iranian front. If even after nearly ideal "starting conditions" Israel is effectively back to square one, it is difficult to see how a policy based on repeating the same actions while expecting different results would serve Israel's interests. Moreover, future confrontations with Iran are likely to be more complex and more difficult, and there is no certainty that they will yield achievements beyond those already attained in "Rising Lion."
www.israelhayom.com
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Half a year after the "Rising Lion" war, it appears that despite Israel's impressive achievements, little has fundamentally changed. Iran is rebuilding its missile array, rehabilitating its nuclear capabilities, and remains unwilling to accept an agreement that would prevent it from enriching uranium on its own soil or limit its nuclear program. Worse still, Tehran is preparing for another confrontation with Israel, seeking to implement the lessons it drew from the previous war. The Iranian regime continues to grapple with complex internal challenges, yet even now there is no opposition that appears to threaten its future.
However, these operational successes did not translate into a true strategic achievement, because from Tehran's perspective, Iran did not actually lose the war. In Iran's view, it not only managed to continue launching missiles until the final day of the fighting and stood firm against Israel and the US, but Israel also failed in what Tehran perceived as an attempt to topple the Iranian regime. Even if this was not the declared objective of the campaign, Iran interpreted Israel's actions, particularly the strike on Evin Prison and Basij headquarters, as moves aimed at regime change, in line with statements made by senior Israeli officials on the matter.
This reality, together with Iran's understanding that another round with Israel is only a matter of time, is driving Tehran toward a conventional arms race, with an emphasis on rebuilding its missile array while, in its view, implementing the lessons of the previous campaign to improve its capabilities. Moreover, in the nuclear arena, despite the severe damage to nuclear sites that prevents Iran from returning to industrial-scale enrichment that brought it to the threshold of military-grade enrichment, the knowledge that exists in Iran, combined with centrifuges that were not damaged and nuclear sites such as "Mount Kolang Gaz" south of Natanz, enable it at some point in the future to resume enrichment in a way that would allow it to take the enriched material already in Iran, including 408 kilograms enriched to 60 percent, and enrich it to military grade.
Moreover, every day that passes without a diplomatic agreement that restricts Iran's force buildup significantly erodes Israeli achievements. Iran's supreme leader has appointed experienced figures to replace those who were killed, and Tehran is currently pursuing Russia and China in an effort to acquire new capabilities in air defense, missiles, and perhaps even nuclear technology.
Ultimately, it is precisely the success of the "Rising Lion" war that necessitates renewed Israeli thinking on the Iranian front. If even after nearly ideal "starting conditions" Israel is effectively back to square one, it is difficult to see how a policy based on repeating the same actions while expecting different results would serve Israel's interests. Moreover, future confrontations with Iran are likely to be more complex and more difficult, and there is no certainty that they will yield achievements beyond those already attained in "Rising Lion."
Iran is already preparing for the next war with Israel
The operational achievements of Israel's war against Iran did not translate into a genuine strategic victory, because from the perspective of Iran’s
www.israelhayom.com
kastor ville
Registered Member
America is going through a soul-searching phase...this is the first time in the history of the country that the next generation will not do better than the last...meanwhile they're supporting billionaire idiots like Trump, Musk, Thiel, and the rest of them...the top 3 richest in the US own more wealth than the bottom 50%.
Every country has to go through this phase..the strongmen phase, no different than Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Pinochet, Castro, Qaddafi, Mubarak...etc..etc. when the people get their asses handed to them....they will come back to regular democracy, less wars, less military bullshit. Don't get me wrong, look at us, we experimented with Islamic Republic with a dinosaur as our leader....look what it got the people. I still support my country...but I know the Iran of future will be have have a different system if it wants to compete with these corrupt Gulfies.
mangekyo
Trusted Member
Depends on how you define good. He could have distanced himself from Iran and hezbollah and had good relations with Israel. He would still be the leader of Syria, a far richer one than what it was during his rule. But he refused to sell his country and people to Zionists and ultimately paid the price.
chinasun
Registered Member
Netanyahu plans to brief Trump on possible new Iran strikes
WASHINGTON — Israeli officials have grown increasingly concerned that Iran is expanding production of its ballistic missile program, which was damaged by Israeli military strikes earlier this year, and are preparing to brief President Donald Trump about options for attacking it again, according to a person with direct knowledge of the plans and four former U.S. officials briefed on the plans.
Israeli officials also are concerned that Iran is reconstituting nuclear enrichment sites the U.S. bombed in June, the sources said. But, they added, the officials view Iran’s efforts to rebuild facilities where they produce the ballistic missiles and to repair its crippled air defense systems as more immediate concerns.
WASHINGTON — Israeli officials have grown increasingly concerned that Iran is expanding production of its ballistic missile program, which was damaged by Israeli military strikes earlier this year, and are preparing to brief President Donald Trump about options for attacking it again, according to a person with direct knowledge of the plans and four former U.S. officials briefed on the plans.
Israeli officials also are concerned that Iran is reconstituting nuclear enrichment sites the U.S. bombed in June, the sources said. But, they added, the officials view Iran’s efforts to rebuild facilities where they produce the ballistic missiles and to repair its crippled air defense systems as more immediate concerns.
Flotilla
Trusted Member
That is a confession their FIRST goal was to thrown the Government.
That was the SECOND objective, to destroy conventional missile program.
Nuclear program was THIRD objective. And I have said before, each day pass, each day Israel is in worse position.
Anyone with eyes in the face and a minimum understanding would conclude that this israeli article (man it is not PressTV or Tasnim news!) is confessing that Israel LOST all THREE objectives, so that means a complete defeat. The own article is a contradicting itself. There is not a tactical success if you didn´t succeed in any of the three goals.
Flotilla
Trusted Member
It is the moment for China. If US must deplete all their stocks of SM3/SM6 and THAAD interceptors again, it would be a golden opportunity to invade Taiwán. At least a half of THAAD systems are deployed around Israel and many DDGs must be detached in Mediterranean Sea, Gulf of Oman and Red Sea to shoot down.
If China arms also Venezuela many US resources would be drawn in their stupid wars and the outcome it is at the reach of China´s hands.
OldTwilight
Registered Member
we should have nukes
chinasun
Registered Member
The United Nations recognizes Taiwan as Chinese territory, a core national interest of China, and a weakness of China! The United States' weakness lies in the dollar's hegemony and its anchor, Israel. If China were to attack, it would likely target either America's weaknesses or Japan in East Asia (a proactive move to avoid Taiwan becoming a battlefield). Time is on China's side; China believes it is currently in a strategic stalemate, and 2027 may be the most intense period for both sides.
kastor ville
Registered Member
Yep...this is why the Middle East gets bombed and invaded...no unity amongst us. We need leadership that allies us, not ones that divide us. I'm guilty of this myself....but the grievances must be put to rest, for the betterment of the Middle East.
Kyussis
Trusted Member
How are we supposed to get leadership that allies us when every time Sunni countries overthrow a leader, They are replaced with pro U.S/Zionist leaders? There is a Genocide of Sunni Palestinians going on for over two years. Iran and the Axis of resistance has shed blood for Sunni Palestinians as our testament to wanting unity while not one single Sunni Arab state has even broken off diplomatic relations with Israel and their populations are not even out on the street protesting about it!
925boy
Elite Member
Afghanistan and Iraq "didnt hsve missiles" either and they were disasters for US. Never underestimate your adversaries(seems US and NATO are still learning this lesson).
tsunset
The Legend
The cartel will kill US soldiers one by one and invade the US to free Texas
925boy
Elite Member
Nukes aren't the silver magic bullet you may think it is, because it will create new complications for Iran, with the main one being that Russia and China will probably reduce critical cooperation with and support for Iran, which is a very bad thing for Iran at this critical stage.
kastor ville
Registered Member
You make do with what you have, not what you wish for....anything is possible....your very limited in your grasp of the situation. You don't wait till your neighbors have the govt you like to foster peace and unity....you try to get as many of them on the bus as you can....leave the rest behind.
Iran's strategy is a fking disaster....when are you going to wake up and realize people can't afford food and housing?
When are you going to wake up to 25% unemployment?
When are you going to wake up to a nuclear program that has not produced a nuclear bomb, but has cost us a trillion dollars ?
Man......wake up! We need to change the strategy...this shit is not working for Iranians.
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