Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[gamaji]

...our deepest strike was in Subroto Park.....you can see whats located there!

It helps in understanding why Modi started begging for an immediate ceasefire? Just to get an idea of its depth from border, Subroto Park is 440Km from Lahore and 580km from Multan.
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During the May conflict (likely referring to the 2025 tensions/escalation following the Pahalgam attack), Subroto Park in New Delhi housed the Headquarters of the Indian Air Force's Western Air Command, a critical hub for directing air operations for all major conflicts, including Kargil (1999) and the recent heightened tensions, making it a central command for India's air defense and response, notes the {Link: Indian Air Force}.
Key Details:

• Location: Subroto Park, New Delhi.
• Occupant: Headquarters, Western Air Command (WAC), Indian Air Force.
• Role: Directs air operations across numerous bases, serving as a nerve center for India's air power, especially during conflicts like the recent Kargil conflict (Operation Safed Sagar) and heightened May 2025 standoff, Indian Air Force.
• Significance in May 2025 Conflict: The WAC at Subroto Park was central to managing the Indian Air Force's response, handling operations against Pakistan following major terrorist attacks.

 

[AeronautIR]

i mean @HemlockKhalid/AeronautIR has landed on it in an emergency .

Yes. It is a proper surface for operations. Now, before anyone gets offended and calls me an ex servicemen pompous prick, there are few things which can't be understood without hands on experience.

I can understand the confusion due to narrow width of parallel runway, but what am I even doing here if everything is already known to all.

So we need to get off our high horse and try to learn something new instead of disrespecting others under guise of banter. And now I get what @Fatman17 meant by watch your six.

 

[Starlord]

@Panzerkiel posting so many posts in last few pages, mujhe tu dar lag raha hai court Martial tu nai ho gaya bhai sahab ka? phir jo May 2025 conflict pe details posts ka bola tha woh bhi gaya!!!

 

[side-winder]

Now, before anyone gets offended and calls me an ex servicemen pompous prick, there are few things which can't be understood without hands on experience.

Mr. Arsalan has a tendency of losing his temper. He has a rather diffetent way of looking at things. He is also a commercial pilot though.

So never mind - thanks for keeping your cool in response.

 

[rafale]

Military has moved on, the entire world knows what happened this IS between us civilians.
But literally just give ME one good reasonable answer WHY GOOGLE UPDATE THE IMAGERY OF THE ENTIRE PARK TO MAY 17 BUT NOT THOSE BUILDINGS?
WHY???, WHAT IS INDIA TRYING TO HIDE.
and pls don't bring military into this, just a bunch of civilians having a Convo.

@falcon34 can we not source the imagery from other image providers? I am sure there would be some source or access.......

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@rafale

can we not source the imagery from other image providers?

Of course you can and you should. Just don't post it here because it would pour cold water on your theories.

Regards

 

[AeronautIR]

Mr. Arsalan has a tendency of losing his temper. He has a rather diffetent way of looking at things. He is also a commercial pilot though.

So never mind - thanks for keeping your cool in response.

No worries mate. I am sure there are many things I can learn from others here. Everyone has his own expertise. This is what a forum is for.
And I know him from Quwa, so wasn't expecting that tantrum from a person like him. Otherwise, we all know about the toxic side of social media.

 

[Oracle]

What is India thinking? Specifically their armed chief and defense ministry.

They still believe they can deter Pakistan? Or they are afraid it will Fire back again

And what are Pakistan targets in case another misadventure happen by India? Pakistan has been preparing for war.

 

[hnn]

What is India thinking? Specifically their armed chief and defense ministry.

They still believe they can deter Pakistan? Or they are afraid it will Fire back again

And what are Pakistan targets in case another misadventure happen by India? Pakistan has been preparing for war.

Per the theory of deterrence, when one side escalates, carries out a strike, and then calls for de-escalation, it usually suggests that the goals were more political and less militaristic.

In the aftermath of May conflict, the safest tactic available to India is CM strike (all the lower tiered responses on the escalation ladder were deterred) - CM strikes are already the tipping point in an escalation ladder (so not many viable options left for them).

So given the aftermath of May conflict, the most likely response from India for the forseeable future will be rhetoric and narrative war, and probable proxy war via TTP/TTA.

As for what our targets for any escalation by India in the future can be deduced from what their safest option for a strike is i.e. CM - so our target would be there TEL Launchers and Missile Storage Sites (and for them to get struck there will have to be aeriel combat, and SEAD/DEAD missions).

 

[kimjongun]

OH... What a coincidence.... Such coincidences occur whenever my popcorns finish....

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were you actually just messing with us or is it real?? lol

 

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this is their true self, given the chance they are no less than israeli bastards!

 

[Vkdindian1]

@rafale

can we not source the imagery from other image providers?

Of course you can and you should. Just don't post it here because it would pour cold water on your theories.

Regards

You think they didn’t try? They must have tried and easily obtained any imagery they wanted.

It all went quiet since there was noting to show. Then they started propagating alternate theories for not showing the proof. At time and place of our choosing. What crap?

Most sane ones have already accepted it and I am sure that the military professionals are already at work to plug the loopholes in this regard. They are good learners and fast one too. Their procurement cycle is also much faster.

Fanboys are still clutching at the straws and trying to find even one small scarp to try and create some damage.

 

[PK781]

What is India thinking? Specifically their armed chief and defense ministry.

They still believe they can deter Pakistan? Or they are afraid it will Fire back again

And what are Pakistan targets in case another misadventure happen by India? Pakistan has been preparing for war.

the only thing we hope for is:

NO RESTRAINTS This Time!

 

[r3alist]

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[falcon34]

@falcon34 can we not source the imagery from other image providers? I am sure there would be some source or access.......

Nah bro, I have tried though, the least your gonna get is of late July or August and it's a waste of money. Sentinals resoulation is bs, eventually maxr and others will pick it up but one thing is for sure Subroto park was and was hit brutally 10 buildings haven't had their sat imagery update while the rest of it is updated to 17 May 2025