Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

rafale said:
Clearly their AD could pick up our jets within Pakistan airspace.........so why weren't they successful in targeting them or hitting them? How PAF managed to keep its assets safe?

Hoping to hear more on that without the usual OPSEC violations of course.
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Detect -> Track -> Identify -> Engage -> Guide -> Kill

👆🏻 That's the chain for any ADS

Now, jamming degrades the first 2 steps. Radars may still detect but the tracking quality is degraded (Aircraft is on the move at all times).

The aircraft has to enter ADS's WEZ for it to have a high probability kill. As long as aircraft stay out of that range, ADS usually won't engage because in doing so it exposes its own location.

Then you have the situational awareness provided by AEWACS, using which own aircrafts can maintain safe distance, and still on top tighter EMCON, means the ADS kill chain is stuck at step 1.
 
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rafale said:
Those seem solid wood trees native to the region.......if the target was building, you would hardly have much impact on old trees......but it depends on what warhead was it.

From the discussions it seems it was loitering munition......which hardly have proper high density warhead.

Brahmos hit the hanger at Bholari, yet the entire structure was still standing........only one quadrant of the hanger was damaged....and Brahmos carries a lot more warhead than most loitering munitions/UAV

So if you are looking for flattened/obliterated type of damage, it would not be possible unless the warhead was 2000LB-er class bomb/weapon.
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Yes but the building in second picture looked totally burnt, lol, which I think is probably because low-res image or after dark image. And even with loitering munition I'm expecting "some distrubance" to tree line as a consequence of combined blast shockwave, heat, and debris - "some branches falling off or caved to the side"
 
hasssanali8998 said:
India has issued a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM), temporarily reserving airspace for an Indian Air Force exercise near the southern sector of the Pakistan–India border. The airspace restrictions will be in effect on 06–07 January 2026 and 20–21 January 2026

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Jaguars would also be part of this exercise 😍😍
 
rafale said:
Those seem solid wood trees native to the region.......if the target was building, you would hardly have much impact on old trees......but it depends on what warhead was it.

From the discussions it seems it was loitering munition......which hardly have proper high density warhead.

Brahmos hit the hanger at Bholari, yet the entire structure was still standing........only one quadrant of the hanger was damaged....and Brahmos carries a lot more warhead than most loitering munitions/UAV

So if you are looking for flattened/obliterated type of damage, it would not be possible unless the warhead was 2000LB-er class bomb/weapon.
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Another point the imagery is three months old I checked the layout which doesn't matches the old imagery.
 
hnn said:
Just my observation: the first image shows a very high probability of damage but not the other two. I can be wrong on in this but I am looking at the tree line in the latter 2 pictures and it seems intact. The trees are hugging the buildings so I'm hypothesizing that had the building took damage then there would have been some observable disturbance to the tree line and pattern.
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It's been two months most probably demolitions going the change in colour your seeing is due to repair works going, hover over to Google Earth's and check previous images, the colour doesn't change that drastic, drastic colour changes means new material being used which gives a different shade when exposed to sun light
 
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