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[MH.Yang]

Dude, it's not the first time the Chinese Government kidnap dissendent from a sovereign country and has them on trial in China. It's literally the same thing Trump is doing to Maduro. Just that this Trump's Dissident is a Head of State...

plz give an example, who did China kidnap?

 

[FuturePAF]

Here is a great clip by a person in New York, who’s family left Venezuela in the 80s, and spells out how she sees events going; the expected series of events to happen considering past patterns.

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[j_hungary]

plz give an example, who did China kidnap?

Huh. Are you for real?

Causeway Bay Books disappearances - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Another one is Wang Bingzhang

Wang Bingzhang (dissident) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He was abducted in Vietnam

These are just the most prominent one; there are tons other that were reported to be missing overseas and some were never found........

 

[Davey Crockett]

Have the US forces followed an illegal order?

Yes.

I draw a hard line on Presidential war powers.

 

[MH.Yang]

Huh. Are you for real?

Causeway Bay Books disappearances - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Another one is Wang Bingzhang

Wang Bingzhang (dissident) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He was abducted in Vietnam

These are just the most prominent one; there are tons other that were reported to be missing overseas and some were never found........

Don't spread rumors. These are all criminals of Chinese nationality, such as Gui Minhai, who fled to Hong Kong after driving and killing a young girl in Ningbo. Chinese police arresting criminals on Chinese soil is not kidnapping.

 

[Nuffle]

Having corruption does not mean you are not sovereign. Just look at how corrupt both Congress and the Senate are in the USA, esp with regards to "donations".

I'm not one to pass judgment, but I will within this context. I'll start with the basics of what is understood by people, society, and state. When a PEOPLE live in a TERRITORY and, under a LEADERSHIP that supports and claims it as their own, and this is recognized at least by the neighbors, we have a NATION-STATE; this, by the LEGITIMACY conferred by the same people, exercises SOVEREIGNTY over that area.

A state whose "elected government" exercises TYRANNY to such an extreme degree that about 1/4 or 1/5 of the entire population has to flee, and those who remain, mostly because they have no way to escape, must submit to all kinds of abuse, LEGITIMACY is what is lacking; without it, SOVEREIGNTY is also gone.

Let's recall the events that end up explaining the current situation in Venezuela: the opposition tried by force, and not even the leader, Óscar Pérez, was spared; they massacred him while he tried to surrender; They tried with protests and threw armored vehicles at the population; they tried with the vote, and the election was blatantly STOLEN.

So, of course, the people have legitimacy; but, since they are systematically prevented from exercising it, who will do it in their place? In LATAM, who? The OAS? Militarily, it's like NATO, the US + the rest; the UN? Russia and China would obstruct any resolution that approved military action.

 

[j_hungary]

Don't spread rumors. These are all criminals of Chinese nationality, such as Gui Minhai, who fled to Hong Kong after driving and killing a young girl in Ningbo. Chinese police arresting criminals on Chinese soil is not kidnapping.

He was in Thailand, his home is in Thailand........

And he has a trial and the charges are NOT killing a young girl, FFS........unless killing a young girl will get you 3 years in China, he was OUT of Prison in 2018 after being abducted in 2015

 

[Ё-МАЁ]

Now I'd like to hear a story about Trump the peacemaker!

And yes, it's just the beginning. Don't expect it to be over.

 

[MH.Yang]

He was in Thailand, his home is in Thailand........

And he has a trial and the charges are NOT killing a young girl, FFS........unless killing a young girl will get you 3 years in China, he was OUT of Prison in 2018 after being abducted in 2015

not Thailand.

Can you read Chinese? Gui Minhai is a Swedish Chinese.

In December 2003, Gui Minhai hit and killed a young girl while drunk driving in Ningbo and then fled the scene. He has always been an important criminal wanted by the Chinese government. In 2018, two Swedish diplomats handed him over to the Chinese government, and he surrendered himself to the Chinese government.

Do you mean this is kidnapping?

btw: The Lui Bo in your picture was caught by the police for visiting a prostitute in Shenzhen. This was a very sensational case at that time, and the end he was fired from the company because of this scandal.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[j_hungary]

not Thailand.

Can you read Chinese? Gui Minhai is a Swedish Chinese.

In December 2003, Gui Minhai hit and killed a young girl while drunk driving in Ningbo and then fled the scene. He has always been an important criminal wanted by the Chinese government. In 2018, two Swedish diplomats handed him over to the Chinese government, and he surrendered himself to the Chinese government.

Do you mean this is kidnapping?

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Can you read English



By the way, the Chinese paragraph didn't say when or where he was taken, it just said he was already in Shanghai in 2018, which is 3 years after he was abducted in Thailand.

Additionally, his Swedish Passport had not been used since he was in Thailand in 2015, and he only held Swedish Citizenship at that time.

 

[MH.Yang]

Can you read English

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By the way, yours Chinese paragraphdidn't say when he was taken, it just said he was already in Shanghai in 2018, that's 3 years after he was abducted in Thailand.

The Chinese paragraph tells you that in 2018, two Swedish diplomats accompanied him to Shanghai and handed him over to the Chinese police. If you that he was kidnapped for 3 years before 2018, then it can only be the Swedish government that kidnapped him.

 

[j_hungary]

The Chinese paragraph tells you that in 2018, two Swedish diplomats accompanied him to Shanghai and handed him over to the Chinese police. If you that he was kidnapped for 3 years before 2018, then it can only be the Swedish government that kidnapped him.

Dude, you need to get the Disinformation right.

Xinhau said he "volunteered" to surrender back in 2016...

Xinhua News



Dude, again, he ONLY had Swedish Citizenship and Swedish Authority said his Passport WAS NEVER used (I remember there was a photo back then showing his passport), how he could "surrender" to the Chinese in China if his passport was not used??

 

[retaxis]

Can you read English

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By the way, the Chinese paragraph didn't say when or where he was taken, it just said he was already in Shanghai in 2018, which is 3 years after he was abducted in Thailand.

Additionally, his Swedish Passport had not been used since he was in Thailand in 2015, and he only held Swedish Citizenship at that time.

All this stemmed because you think kidnapping a dissident (which CIA do all the time) is same as kidnapping a president?

 

[Yasser76]

I did responded to you anyone who is asking for bloodshed. He must visit to the doctor.

I suggest you visit one first. Doctors have been very busy in Pakistan due to Talibs, but seems you dont mind that kind of bloodshed....