Venezuela - US Conflict: News, Updates

[Hakwa Nadro]

The leftist leader in Columbia is probably sweating, while the Colombian right wing will probably step up its lobbying of Trump, under the pretext of combating narcotics smugglers.

Add Lula da Silva to the list, he defeated Bolsonaro a renowned trumpist and potus sweetheart.

 

[royalharris]

What’s there to even "gain" from attacking North Korea? A completely brainwashed population who believes a guy with ridiculous belly & haircut is their God or something?

Then what could possibly be gained from attacking Afghanistan? To find a patch of land to herd sheep? Yet two powerful empires launched attacks on Afghanistan one after another, only to fall and meet their demise there.
But USA is more luckily

 

[The SC]

The West can always try to bomb Shanghai and see what happens. Why do you think it doesn't? The US doesn't hesitate to bomb anywhere else, does it?

China is allowed to compete with the West and the US in particular and even surpass it in many fields.. but if it tries anything against the petrodollar fact on the ground..the US will become very dangerous to it..that is why China seems to be walking on eggs on things that matter most to the US core economics hegemony on the world..a.k.a the Petrodollar fact..

 

[Falcon29]

US bought out all Venezuelan politicians

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[royalharris]

China is allowed to compete with the West and the US in particular and even surpass it in many fields.. but if it tries anything against the petrodollar fact on the ground..the US will become very dangerous to it..that is why China seems to be walking on eggs on things that matter most to the US core economics hegemony on the world..a.k.a the Petrodollar fact..

The development over the past few decades has already proven the effectiveness of China's existing strategy

why should China choose a strategy and path that carries far greater risks?

especially waste resource to help some opportunists

 

[tower9]

China is allowed to compete with the West and the US in particular and even surpass it in many fields.. but if it tries anything against the petrodollar fact on the ground..the US will become very dangerous to it..that is why China seems to be walking on eggs on things that matter most to the US core economics hegemony on the world..a.k.a the Petrodollar fact..

Also why China is acting so patiently. Because every year, the balance of power shifts more in China's favor.

 

[The SC]

It’d be really interesting to watch how US oil & gas companies now do business with sanction-hit Venezuela

They will control that heavy oil.. you should be worried how China, Russia, Iran and others are going to replace it..

 

[Forsvaret]

I can only explain to you like this. The Han people have controlled the Far East for 5000 years, and it has unparalleled imperialist experience, geopolitical experience, and accumulated historical lessons.

Well, there lies the problem. The Han Chinese sphere of influence hasn’t gone much beyond the Far East for the past 5000 years. And if your brilliant strategists believe that mass dumping Chinese-made products in international markets is somehow gonna bring about superpower of China, they’re wrong.

 

[Bharatah]

US bought out all Venezuelan politicians

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This confirms the analysis I posted here in post #1,937

The vice president(Delcy rodriguez) is the overall traitor and coordinated Maduro's handover, this is clear in this statement. The official version of media is FAKE.

 

[royalharris]

What is the point of expanding territory at all costs, when the people are living in abject poverty?

 

[The SC]

The development over the past few decades has already proven the effectiveness of China's existing strategy

why should China choose a strategy and path that carries far greater risks?

especially waste resource to help some opportunists

I'm aware of that.. just saying China should not go too far with the US..the dangerous power of this planet..

 

[_Arabia_]

This conversation is pointless. Go talk to someone else.

LOL. It is not pointless at all. Maybe to you because it shatters your viewpoint of China being a real contender to the US globally (not the case) and with such an attitude that China is displaying and has historically such a change of guard will never occur. Nor can it in the first place when your own vicinity is not in your control. So yes, the entire discussion is pointless from my part indeed.

I should just have written the ground reality namely that Pro-China aligned states and regimes just like Venezuela, previously Iran, and to an extend Russia, cannot really expect any support from China when shit hits the fan or the heat increases.

Does anyone here, and we are talking about just 60 years ago (which equals 200-300 years previously given the technological progress since then), imagine the USSR adopting such passivity and inaction in relation to Cuba or other allies during the Cold War? I don't. Maybe that is why China has never lead any military pact such as the Warsaw Pact nor working towards that today while we speak.

Personally, if I am to be honest, I don't think that China even has such aspirations. The focus is on internal development and regaining Taiwan. US-China are still the largest trade partners, nothing like the Cold War. Most Chinese elites and most Chinese people in power, their families, are mostly Western educated and have close ties to the same West. Not difficult to encounter them in Southern France during the summer or in London or elsewhere. Not any different from Arab elites, in many ways worse in their worship of the West. And the last part I have personal experience with through direct interactions. Nothing bad with that but people need to realize what is happening and not what they wish to occur.

 

[tower9]

LOL. It is not pointless at all. Maybe to you because it shatters your viewpoint of China being a real contender to the US globally (not the case) and with such an attitude that China is displaying and has historically such a change of guard will never occur. Nor can it in the first place when your own vicinity is not in your control. So yes, the entire discussion is pointless from my part indeed.

I should just have written the ground reality namely that Pro-China aligned states and regimes just like Venezuela, previously Iran, and to an extend Russia, cannot really expect any support from China when shit hits the fan or the heat increases.

Does anyone here, and we are talking about just 60 years ago (which is an entirety given the technological progress since then), imagine the USSR adopting such passivity and inaction in regard to Cuba or other allies during the Cold War? I don't. Maybe that is why China has never lead any military pact such as the Warsaw Pact nor working towards that today while we speak.

Personally, I am to be honest, I don't think that China even has such aspirations. The focus is on internal development and regaining Taiwan. US-China are still the largest trade partners, nothing like the Cold War. Most Chinese elites and most Chinese people in power, their families, are mostly Western educated and have close ties to the same West. Not difficult to encounter them in Southern France during the summer in London or elsewhere. Not any different from Arab elites, in many ways worse in their worship of the West.

It's pointless because you make very shallow observations and opinions about subjects that are actually very complicated. You demand to know why the cake isn't on the table, when it's being baked. Yet you draw conclusions right away when the process is ongoing.

That's why it's pointless to discuss this with you.

 

[royalharris]

There is an interesting phenomenon nowadays: apart from China and the United States, the rest of the world is hoping for a war between the two countries.
Yet China and the United States are proceeding with extreme caution in their negotiations with each other.
Trump wanted to form a G2 with China, but China had no interest in it. Meanwhile, some other countries were very eager to join in, yet they lacked the qualification to do so.

 

[MH.Yang]

What’s there to even "gain" from attacking country like North Korea? A completely brainwashed population which believes a guy with large belly & ridiculous haircut is their God or something?

Look at North Korea's performance on the battlefield in Ukraine, a country that will send hundreds of thousands of troops to its allies. The value of North Korea in the Ukrainian battlefield is greater than that of all EU countries. This kind of ally is a valuable ally.

On the contrary, if one countries only seek economic assistance in their daily lives and lack the courage to resist enemy attacks. Neither Trump nor China consider this ally valuable. Trump will put it on the menu to eat, China will only give it some diplomatic support.

There is a Chinese proverb called "欲人救先自救", which means that in order for others to save you, you must first learn to save yourself.



The Chinese War of Resistance Against Japan broke out on September 18, 1931. During Japan's initial invasion, China did not receive any substantial assistance. It was not until June 1938, when China achieved a decisive victory in the Battle of Wuhan, that European, American, and Soviet countries decided to provide significant assistance to China. We know very well what kind of country will be saved.