yeah dead serious DOJ rules require officers to move, step away from the vehicle's path instead of using deadly force.
1-16.000 - Department of Justice Policy On Use Of Force
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Liquidator
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Come on Mr Warden
I'm sure you are a better human being than that.
Life is sacrosanct; having viewed the footage this was avoidable
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Possibly. Then again, we're only seeing the footage they want us to see.
Liquidator
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Liquidator
Trusted Member
Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey
- calls ICE account of events "Bullshit"
- tells ICE to "get the fu*k out".
(Direct quotes from recent press conference).
Are ICE agents racist violent individuals who have joined to harm American citizens they don't like because of the colour of their skin or beliefs??
I suspect so.
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
I am biased in that I have interacted with quite a few over the course of my career. So my response is no.
Why? Because, the agents I have interacted with are white, black, brown, male, female. They are like us. They have a job to do and want nothing more than to go home to their families every night. Much like us.
Yet, you have faction on the left doing everything they can to dox, expose, harass, intimidate, berate, and obstruct the agents in any manner possible. All because they are doing the job they were tasked to do.
j_hungary
Professional
As a cop with 11 years experience, you can block me and I wouldn't be able to arrest you, the term "obstruction" is not just you blocking my way, it had to be an active intrusion, like you try to restrain me from carrying my duty, the correct option for this is to call a tow truck and issue her a citation, not put 3 on her head, on the other hand, seeing that other vehicle seems to be able to go thru the "blockade" no problem, if I was the ICE guy, I would just drive around her.
As a cop, you don't pull your sidearm, and you don't fire until you have accounted for ALL circumstance, as said before, the thing I have the most is that there is no reason to actually do this; this is not a hostile action; there is nothing other than a moving violation before the agent approaches the vehicle. Why do they have to remove her (Bear in mind that's a public road, she had the right to use it as much as anyone, Federal Agent included) is beyond me, that's bad judgment there
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
So, the takeaway here is that kids are being taught early to harass or otherwise obstruct law enforcement. And, we don't know why ICE was there in the first place.
All we do know is that some random person with some level of paranoia who clearly hates Trump and ICE is posting what she wants her audience to see. From her profile page:
I rarely take people like this seriously.
Liquidator
Trusted Member
Thank you for the insight. I will take it at face value, you are a decent man.
Human beings, all cogs in the wheel. Simply following orders...
Who are turning the cogs? I suppose that's the question.
j_hungary
Professional
As I said in the old forum when I was commenting on the 2019 HK Protest, where the Police wear masks (not because of COVID) and hide their warrant number to deal with the protesters.
"If you have to hide your identity doing Law Enforcement, there are something wrong with your job."
First of all, this is not just the left doing the doxing, harassing, and intimidating Law Enforcement, the right does it too, especially those who are more to the far right.
Secondly, Law Enforcement is not about power; it's about treating everyone fairly. You won't get people to dox you or harass you if you treat people fairly; it's just like any other job. People know where I live when I was a cop in Philly, people come to me with problem and I help them, that's what law enforcement does.
You need to STOP making excuses for them just because they are doing what you think is right, because it's not just about you, it wasn't about left or right, you and I don't make the community, everyone in it makes it.
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WildApache
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In Trumpian America he instigates riots to try and overthrow the results of a democratic election, he invades a sovereign country to steal the oil, he s apparently supporting the invasion of another and his agents are casually murdering women on the street with his public approval, and there s still posters on here refusing to accept that things are possibly not going entirely as things really should be?
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AZ_HighCountry
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This might provide a little insight as to why the ICE felt compelled to draw and fire his weapon:
nypost.com
Exclusive | ICE agent who opened fire on Renee Good was dragged, hospitalized by illegal migrant driver last year
The agent was hospitalized but made a full recovery.
nypost.com
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Another article just up on NYP suggesting the deceased was more than just some innocent mom who was in the wrong place at the wrong time:
nypost.com
Exclusive | Renee Nicole Good was Minneapolis ‘ICE Watch’ ‘warrior’ who trained to resist feds before shooting
Good linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her 6-year-old son’s woke charter school, which boasts that it puts “social justice first” and “involving kids in political and social activism,” …
nypost.com
what do you mean? is leftist liberal beliefs and activism illegal? Just an FYI, I love the beach, the ocean and sailing but I avoided going to Brighton because I didn't want my kids seeing same sex couples engaged in PDA when I lived in London. I'm a church going gun toting conservative but I also don't judge people for loving who they love in the privacy of their homes. I loath the idea of government handouts fiscal irresponsibility, some on the left may call me a not so "innocent mom".Another article just up on NYP suggesting the deceased was more than just some innocent mom who was in the wrong place at the wrong time:
Exclusive | Renee Nicole Good was Minneapolis ‘ICE Watch’ ‘warrior’ who trained to resist feds before shooting
Good linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her 6-year-old son’s woke charter school, which boasts that it puts “social justice first” and “involving kids in political and social activism,” …
