RescueRanger
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UN Security Council Emergency Meeting on Iran:
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Shags101
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All options on the table tyrannical killers in the government peaceful protests being trampled on…….is this Iran or America
Master Chief
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You're thinking of Raisi
Shags101
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SolarWarden
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Don't worry Orange man backed down everything is easy peasy.
-According to U.S. officials speaking to Fox News, the United States is preparing to surge a wide range of military assets to the Middle East in the coming days and weeks, including additional air defense systems, a move that is setting the stage for potential military options against Iran.One official emphasized that if President Trump authorizes military action, it would be more offensive in nature.Notably, this buildup is expected to mirror, or potentially exceed, the surge observed prior to the strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, which included a large movement of tankers, C-17 airlift aircraft, and deployed fighter squadrons.
-According to U.S. officials speaking to Fox News, the United States is preparing to surge a wide range of military assets to the Middle East in the coming days and weeks, including additional air defense systems, a move that is setting the stage for potential military options against Iran.One official emphasized that if President Trump authorizes military action, it would be more offensive in nature.Notably, this buildup is expected to mirror, or potentially exceed, the surge observed prior to the strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, which included a large movement of tankers, C-17 airlift aircraft, and deployed fighter squadrons.
RocketLaw
Registered Member
So why did Trump not strike Iran?
Pretty simple, Trump was preparing the military, but it was too late.
Iran did the following:
1) Turned off the Internet, including Starlink
2) Cracked down hard on the protestors
3) Put the bodies out in the open, of armed rioters (and civilian victims too). This was to some extent a warning.
4) Iran organized counter protests with thousands of people marching and condemning the riots and protests. (Twice)
5) Multiple days in the row there were no protests anymore (until today)
6) Leading protestors were already dispersed, many killed and many ran over the border
At this point when Trump was ready to strike, it was too late. The strike would have NOT achieved any effect anymore.
If we imagine, Trump would have struck the moment the protest were at their peak … this could have destabilized the government and military, while the armed protesters were raking havoc.
So, coup failed … too late.
PS: At least that’s my speculation.
Tom_Cruise
Registered Member
US Carrier group is still a few days away. They can't attack Iran without it.
vizier
Registered Member
If Iran lowers down guard they wont need an excuse to attack. If Iran stays alert and keeps the guard up they will wait considering the costs are high. For a long time from now on Iran needs to stay guards up. The june decapitation strike following the fake deal moves from Usa shows what happens when guard is down even for an instant.
We already know the israeli air launched ballistic missiles as an initial attack. Means to detect incoming bms are already in place in Iran which would trigger a possibly much larger retaliation salvo against israel. Albms will target the static gates of mountain bases and airbases of Iran. Planes on the ground needs to be dispersed if possible parked on highways connected to runways by towed carrier vehicles. After runways are hit and repaired they can be towed back to airbase and take off. Underground camouflaged shelters are another solution but once shelters are detected by spy satellites ballistic missiles would penetrate easily.
Also there is now the cheaper loitering munition threat that was used in Venezuela at the initial phase of the conflict. These are mainly shaheed copies that can be fired undetected from Usa bases. Detecting them over the sea is not difficult since they fly low and emit infrared. IIR targeting pods guiding zsu-23 aa guns at the shores would bring many of them down easily. Low altitude radars would be good as well directing the guns. If they fly over western mountainous terrain that is more difficult but point defenses would counter them as well when they are close on target. They are also launched against static targets. If radars , vehicles are moved frequently that is also a means of defense against the cheaper long range loitering munition. they can't hit vehicles but mainly hit static buildings as we see in Ukraine. Last time there was also micro-cruise missile attack against Tahran. Low altitude radar coverage needs to be in place over major cities.
Jamming is another threat at the initial phase of an attack. It can be used as a harassment as well to keep Iran guessing if the main attack started or not. But the effetiveness of jamming especially deception jamming depends on the enemy knowing the position of your radar recievers. They need time to map the radar positions by sigint(if they want to attack radars kinetically or deception long range jamming they need hours to correlate exact position of the radar by satellite-drone images). Frequent radar repositioning would reduce the deception jamming effectiveness. Also detecting an airborne long range sigint aircraft(ep 3, R 135 or similar) means radar positions need to shuffle asap and decoys if available should open to confuse their passive sensors. If a radar gets blinded backup radar nearby would open and take over the job and the blinded radar needs to close and deploy somewhere else. The location is compromised. This process should also be repeated hourly or less considering location is already compromised.
There is also real time reactive jamming by pods on drones-aircraft that effects radars immediately. I hope Iran gained some experience on countering them in the last conflict. A possible solution that comes to my mind is decoy radar emitters illuminating the target simultaneously can overload the enemy ew pods or make them emit too much rf which can be detected by passive radio locating sensors for locating the plane and then attack solution can be done by iir systems like Majid. Passive radars are another option and I am sure there are projects going on in that area as well.
For air war strategies can be experimented with stealthy hadid-110 , shaheed 238 and similar drones integrating manpads to them. Especially against drones they would be effective. They can also be used as target decoys in air to air warfare flying next to real aircraft at about 10km altitude or less. Some radar reflectors can be added to shaheed 238 to appear similar to F5 size on opposing radar for example. Trade off would be interception speed as these drones are slow and planes would need to slow down with them. Karrar is a better option to act as high speed-altitude target decoy overloading enemy a2a. Also if it can get close it can launch wvr missiles. Some cheaper no-sensor variants can be used as target decoys flying in formation with F5s to saturate opposing a2a. They can fly between enemy aircraft-awacs and your planes to act as a disposable shield shadowing your own aircraft from enemy radar. You need a good directional rwr and ability to command the drone from your plane(or immediate coordination with ground station) to shadow yourself though.
We already know the israeli air launched ballistic missiles as an initial attack. Means to detect incoming bms are already in place in Iran which would trigger a possibly much larger retaliation salvo against israel. Albms will target the static gates of mountain bases and airbases of Iran. Planes on the ground needs to be dispersed if possible parked on highways connected to runways by towed carrier vehicles. After runways are hit and repaired they can be towed back to airbase and take off. Underground camouflaged shelters are another solution but once shelters are detected by spy satellites ballistic missiles would penetrate easily.
Also there is now the cheaper loitering munition threat that was used in Venezuela at the initial phase of the conflict. These are mainly shaheed copies that can be fired undetected from Usa bases. Detecting them over the sea is not difficult since they fly low and emit infrared. IIR targeting pods guiding zsu-23 aa guns at the shores would bring many of them down easily. Low altitude radars would be good as well directing the guns. If they fly over western mountainous terrain that is more difficult but point defenses would counter them as well when they are close on target. They are also launched against static targets. If radars , vehicles are moved frequently that is also a means of defense against the cheaper long range loitering munition. they can't hit vehicles but mainly hit static buildings as we see in Ukraine. Last time there was also micro-cruise missile attack against Tahran. Low altitude radar coverage needs to be in place over major cities.
Jamming is another threat at the initial phase of an attack. It can be used as a harassment as well to keep Iran guessing if the main attack started or not. But the effetiveness of jamming especially deception jamming depends on the enemy knowing the position of your radar recievers. They need time to map the radar positions by sigint(if they want to attack radars kinetically or deception long range jamming they need hours to correlate exact position of the radar by satellite-drone images). Frequent radar repositioning would reduce the deception jamming effectiveness. Also detecting an airborne long range sigint aircraft(ep 3, R 135 or similar) means radar positions need to shuffle asap and decoys if available should open to confuse their passive sensors. If a radar gets blinded backup radar nearby would open and take over the job and the blinded radar needs to close and deploy somewhere else. The location is compromised. This process should also be repeated hourly or less considering location is already compromised.
There is also real time reactive jamming by pods on drones-aircraft that effects radars immediately. I hope Iran gained some experience on countering them in the last conflict. A possible solution that comes to my mind is decoy radar emitters illuminating the target simultaneously can overload the enemy ew pods or make them emit too much rf which can be detected by passive radio locating sensors for locating the plane and then attack solution can be done by iir systems like Majid. Passive radars are another option and I am sure there are projects going on in that area as well.
For air war strategies can be experimented with stealthy hadid-110 , shaheed 238 and similar drones integrating manpads to them. Especially against drones they would be effective. They can also be used as target decoys in air to air warfare flying next to real aircraft at about 10km altitude or less. Some radar reflectors can be added to shaheed 238 to appear similar to F5 size on opposing radar for example. Trade off would be interception speed as these drones are slow and planes would need to slow down with them. Karrar is a better option to act as high speed-altitude target decoy overloading enemy a2a. Also if it can get close it can launch wvr missiles. Some cheaper no-sensor variants can be used as target decoys flying in formation with F5s to saturate opposing a2a. They can fly between enemy aircraft-awacs and your planes to act as a disposable shield shadowing your own aircraft from enemy radar. You need a good directional rwr and ability to command the drone from your plane(or immediate coordination with ground station) to shadow yourself though.
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
Trusted Member
strike has been temporarily called off.
remember, few days back, many could not have predicted last night
remember, few days back, many could not have predicted last night
SiliconBit (silicon0000)
Trusted Member
I hope you’re right, but right now it’s too early to reach a conclusion. Personally, it seems like a joke to believe that war was averted because America is unprepared.
Master Chief
Trusted Member
Coup definitely failed.
But Trump has mobilised for military action. USS A Lincoln reportedly on its way. Iran must remain 1000% ready.
As for why the coup failed, I think Pahlavi simply does not have the support of rational citizenry in Iran, especially with his "take over institutions" rant. That was sheer desperation. Apart from some of these western based "Persians" with those awful pencil enhanced eyebrows and screechy voices and waving their 5 flags of different countries at every "protest", who actually takes Pahlavi seriously? Any movement that is so openly dependent on foreign regimes for its own sustenance and for facilitation of its plans is destined to fail.
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
Senator Graham:
I am traveling to Israel to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his team at this crucial time in the history of the Middle East.
I am traveling to Israel to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his team at this crucial time in the history of the Middle East.
Falcon29
Elite Member
'Missile defense systems to protect Israel '
Ukrainian citizens get fucked once again because we have to move 5 Thaad and Patriot to Israel to 'protect Israel'.
US soldiers get fucked too any missiles will impact on them while they get shot down in Israel
Americans can thank the Jewish-American community for giving this first class VIP treatment for Jews only
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
@Immortals you were saying?
I simply said it wasn't imminent, which you then mocked me for yesterday when it looked like a strike was in fact imminent.
I simply said it wasn't imminent, which you then mocked me for yesterday when it looked like a strike was in fact imminent.
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