Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

Erdoo is useful as hell for Israelis right now. They used him in Syria to topple Assad so Hezbollah, Hamas get disconnected from Iran-Iraq. Now Hamas is dead, Gazans have been holocausted. Hezbollah will now be freely eradicated by Israel in future and Lebanon will be turned into rubble by Israel. Israelis do not leave potential threat. The same Hezbollah that borderline won the war against Israel in 2006 just because it was connected to Iran through Syria. Soleimani's IRGC was on ground. Now this group is helpless thanks to Erdogan. Israel is secure from immediate border opposition thanks to Erdogan. I dont care truth be told, Israel may annex entire Arab league for all I care but I am just stating the facts.

If looked at bigger picture, Erdogan effectively got the Turkish strategic sovereignty neutralized by putting Turkey under massive ~550 Billion USD western debt so that state can be directly controlled by western creditors. Those who feed you, rule you. Same Erdogan that talks against Israel and stupid people fall for him, kept supplying 5-6 Billion USD worth raw material to Israel and still is doing that like a loyal servant, while Sunni Arabs are being turned into meat shreds by Israeli PGMs.

Turkish general public may not feel this way but Erdogan is an Israeli installed entity. His every single move points to that.

 

[mangekyo]

Erdoo is useful as hell for Israelis right now. They used him in Syria to topple Assad so Hezbollah, Hamas get disconnected from Iran-Iraq. Now Hamas is dead, Gazans have been holocausted. Hezbollah will now be freely eradicated by Israel in future and Lebanon will be turned into rubble by Israel. Israelis do not leave potential threat. The same Hezbollah that borderline won the war against Israel in 2006 just because it was connected to Iran through Syria. Soleimani's IRGC was on ground. Now this group is helpless thanks to Erdogan. Israel is secure from immediate border opposition thanks to Erdogan. I dont care truth be told, Israel may annex entire Arab league for all I care but I am just stating the facts.

If looked at bigger picture, Erdogan effectively got the Turkish strategic sovereignty neutralized by putting Turkey under massive ~550 Billion USD western debt so that state can be directly controlled by western creditors. Those who feed you, rule you. Same Erdogan that talks against Israel and stupid people fall for him, kept supplying 5-6 Billion USD worth raw material to Israel and still is doing that like a loyal servant, while Sunni Arabs are being turned into meat shreds by Israeli PGMs.

Turkish general public may not feel this way but Erdogan is an Israeli installed entity. His every single move points to that.

Yep. Heretic Khomeini bet on the wrong horse. Our real enemy was never Israel, it was Russia and our Muslim brothers.

 

[mangekyo]

Israel is only tolerating Turkish expansionism because they are countering AoR and doing Israel’s dirty work on the ground. Soon all these ISIS groups Turkey have turned its proxies to protect Israel will become a potential headache for Zion. It doesn’t matter that Turkey is in NATO and that Israel can easily control Turkey by manipulating Turkish inflation like they did recently. Israel does not allow any regional competitors. Current Turkish leadership is pro-Israel. But Turkish people are ultra nationalistic, there is no guarantee the future leadership will be pro-israel.

Now is the perfect time for an IRGC Coup. Vast majority of Iranians will support it if Artesh is onboard. There will be no civil war. Best strategy forward is to become secular and end all hostilities with Israel as long as they stay away from Iraq. There is no alternative path forward unless IRI wants to sacrifice Iran for the sake of protecting an ummah that secretly (many even openly) wishes for its death.

@Emirzad what’s your take on this?

 

[tsunset]

Khamenei should be put into assisted living facility if Iran wants to move on

Arab Sunnis don't care of Iran, why we should care of them? Khamenei needs to retire into nursing home, his time is over

 

[Watandar]

Israel is only tolerating Turkish expansionism because they are countering AoR and doing Israel’s dirty work on the ground. Soon all these ISIS groups Turkey have turned its proxies to protect Israel will become a potential headache for Zion. It doesn’t matter that Turkey is in NATO and that Israel can easily control Turkey by manipulating Turkish inflation like they did recently. Israel does not allow any regional competitors.

Agree on this.

Now is the perfect time for an IRGC Coup. Vast majority of Iranians will support it if Artesh is onboard. There will be no civil war. Best strategy forward is to become secular and end all hostilities with Israel as long as they stay away from Iraq. There is no alternative path forward unless IRI wants to sacrifice Iran for the sake of protecting an ummah that secretly (many even openly) wishes for its death.

You didn't ask for my take but you will get it anyway There is no chance that Israel and the GCC will now allow Iran to just go away and quietly develop itself for the next 40 years. That's a mirage. Even if the IRI had never happened, one thing the Jews/Arabs have in common is deep allergy to Iran (or Persia), on sectarian, ethnic and historical grounds. The Jews have not forgotten how destroyed their First temple.

 

[hussain0216]

Israel is only tolerating Turkish expansionism because they are countering AoR and doing Israel’s dirty work on the ground. Soon all these ISIS groups Turkey have turned its proxies to protect Israel will become a potential headache for Zion. It doesn’t matter that Turkey is in NATO and that Israel can easily control Turkey by manipulating Turkish inflation like they did recently. Israel does not allow any regional competitors. Current Turkish leadership is pro-Israel. But Turkish people are ultra nationalistic, there is no guarantee the future leadership will be pro-israel.

Now is the perfect time for an IRGC Coup. Vast majority of Iranians will support it if Artesh is onboard. There will be no civil war. Best strategy forward is to become secular and end all hostilities with Israel as long as they stay away from Iraq. There is no alternative path forward unless IRI wants to sacrifice Iran for the sake of protecting an ummah that secretly (many even openly) wishes for its death.

@Emirzad what’s your take on this?

Syria was controlled by the alewites because the colonial powers put them in charge 100 years ago

What you are seeing is Syria being reset

Turkey and the Arabs are waking up and Israel is terrified of that

Iran has behaved in a confused manner for a long long time and that was one of the reasons multiple regional states were more worried about Iran then they were about Israel

Iran needs to make peace with the countries around it, stop playing games and the region will take care of it's enemies


For some reason you Iranians lurch from one crazy extreme to another
So now you want to lurch from a religious Shia theocracy to a secular irreligious Israeli ally against the region


Have more balance

 

[mangekyo]

You didn't ask for my take but you will get it anyway There is no chance that Israel and the GCC will now allow Iran to just go away and quietly develop itself for the next 40 years. That's a mirage. Even if the IRI had never happened, one thing the Jews/Arabs have in common is deep allergy to Iran (or Persia), on sectarian, ethnic and historical grounds. The Jews have not forgotten how destroyed their First temple.

What is your solution?

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Why would Iran do this ? Is this an anti-Iran or anti-Turk Kurdish party ?

Anti-Iran mossad linked terror group, they entered Iran during the riots (their own claim)

 

[mangekyo]

Syria was controlled by the alewites because the colonial powers put them in charge 100 years ago

What you are seeing is Syria being reset

Turkey and the Arabs are waking up and Israel is terrified of that

Iran has behaved in a confused manner for a long long time and that was one of the reasons multiple regional states were more worried about Iran then they were about Israel

Iran needs to make peace with the countries around it, stop playing games and the region will take care of it's enemies


For some reason you Iranians lurch from one crazy extreme to another
So now you want to lurch from a religious Shia theocracy to a secular irreligious Israeli ally against the region


Have more balance

What was so confusing about Iran wanting to free the Middle East from Zionists? The regional states worried about Iran because it belongs to the wrong sect.

 

[nang2]

Agree on this.


You didn't ask for my take but you will get it anyway There is no chance that Israel and the GCC will now allow Iran to just go away and quietly develop itself for the next 40 years. That's a mirage. Even if the IRI had never happened, one thing the Jews/Arabs have in common is deep allergy to Iran (or Persia), on sectarian, ethnic and historical grounds. The Jews have not forgotten how destroyed their First temple.

It was King Nebuchadnezzar II (Babylonian) that destroyed their First Temple. It was Cyrus the Great (Persian) that rebuilt their Second Temple. Ungrateful Jewish bastards.

 

[hussain0216]

What was so confusing about Iran wanting to free the Middle East from Zionists? The regional states worried about Iran because it belongs to the wrong sect.

Your right

Their was and is sect rivalry, it's stupid but it's a reality

It could be overcome, but it's a historical thing that goes back a millennium, add the Persian/Arab history and rivalry then you get why enemies of the region like the Zionists were able to use the fault lines against the region


But you can see movement, with countries understanding that if they want to protect the region, the Muslim world and our countries individually then they need to open up to each other and work together

That's it, that is the only option, or be picked off one by one

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Just heard from some one, Mubashir Luqman saying, attack possible tonight!

 

[Ali_Baba]

Just heard from some one, Mubashir Luqman saying, attack possible tonight!

The aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln has turned off its transponder apparently, so it may be close enough to Iran for them to do that.

 

[mangekyo]

Your right

Their was and is sect rivalry, it's stupid but it's a reality

It could be overcome, but it's a historical thing that goes back a millennium, add the Persian/Arab history and rivalry then you get why enemies of the region like the Zionists were able to use the fault lines against the region


But you can see movement, with countries understanding that if they want to protect the region, the Muslim world and our countries individually then they need to open up to each other and work together

That's it, that is the only option, or be picked off one by one

Which is why it was a terrible policy to champion Muslims against Zionists, when most Muslims view Iran as a bigger threat than Zionists.

 

[Liquidator]

Look
Turks and Iranians are going to have to learn to set aside their differences for the greater good.