Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

kubotabx23 said:
In my opinion, the attack is likely to be imminent, with my guess being sometime this week. The USS Lincoln should be arriving to the Gulf anytime now, any concerns by U.S Gulf allies have likely to be met (air defense replenishment/support) and the timing is right - with U.S domestic politics and recent events shining the Trump administration in a very bad light (the recent ICE shooting and Epstein files).
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The Shit show in Minnesota yesterday may delay the attack......the US is blowing up with the latest ICE murder on the street.
 
kastor ville said:
Well, you know we all joined at some time or another, I'm pretty sure my family can trace it's origins to North, and that's the beauty of it, we have so many different ethnicities that were united under one banner. It was a real achievement for the time, think about the mentality of the people 1000s of yrs ago.
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There have been two events of geneflow in Iranic plateau. Both times it was peaceful civil migration that came and vanished. One was Steppe Mid-Late-Bronze-Age when original Persians (Parsu), Kurds/Tats, Talysh, Lur etc (Medes), Horosanis (Afghans, Tajiks) came and intermingled with native Zagrosians, from Sintashta (origin of Iranic tribes). 2nd such migration happened when us Oghuz Turkics came and formed Irano-Turkomans like Azeris, while those who moved further became Anatolian Turkish. People on this forum do not understand history but they dont know it was one big country back then. Anatolia was bone of contention between Roman/Byzantine empires but it stayed mostly Persian which is why the extreme level genetic similarity exists between Iranians and Turkish. My own group was eastern Anatolian until Shah Esmael Safavi.

The earlier we lose this Islamist Mullah regime and go back to Iranism, the better. Those who were loyal to IRI like Alevis and Shia Turkomans, Lebanese and Iraqi Shias, Syrian Alawites, even Yemenites should be integrated within Iranian society for their sacrifices for resistance but its time to move on. I really hope IRGC takes over during or post war and the entire Anti-Israel and US stance is buried for good. We tried, did not work, its time to save our own nation.
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
It has come to a point now,
either it is going to be a Maduro sort of operation on IRGC and regime command

or

nothing will happen

or

no fly zones will be established

in all 3 cases, war seems unlikely
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they probably can't capture Khamenei and if they do he has enough aura to become a bigger icon and he's 86 anyway

top IRGC guys probably rather die

Pezeshkian well they can take him if they want lol
 
Persian Gulf said:
they probably can't capture Khamenei and if they do he has enough aura to become a bigger icon and he's 86 anyway

top IRGC guys probably rather die

Pezeshkian well they can take him if they want lol
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Khamenei's death or departure from power without any major harm to IRGC + Artesh will be the ultimate proof that it was all an all an IRGC plan to get rid of Ayatollahs. Further proof will come from Larijani's climb to the throne.

People neglected but I am interested in what Larijani said to Netanyahu through Putin a month ago (Shabani reported).
 
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If it happens, IRGCASF should make sure both should cease to exist as functioning states. War with US will be one hell of an opportunity for IRGC to neutralize regional threats. Submunitioned K-4s can end economic and military zones of both Jew run fake states.
 
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Emirzad said:
If it happens, IRGCASF should make sure both should cease to exist as functioning states. War with US will be one hell of an opportunity for IRGC to neutralize regional threats. Submunitioned K-4s can end economic and military zones of both Jew run fake states.
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yes iran has to punish them , even more than they do to Israel .
 
As the usa increases the build up it will be in a catch 22 situation. The less the assets on the ground the potential usa attack is less detecteble but the lower the impact of an attack on Iran and a usa decapitation strike wont work. The more they put their assets closer to Iran like ships and aircraft in those bases the more the maintainance costs and they expose their assets more for a much more costly Iranian counter attack. Also detecting the attack would be easier as there would be a massive air attack since planes on the ground on those bases would be targeted by Iran immediately. It might work as a decapitation strike if trump or eu or others controlled by them makes Iran believe easily and lower down the guard but it is not easy with fake deals anymore.

As long as Iran keeps alert and does not react by fear giving up defenses or reacts by a pre-emptive attack against usa( which would make usa declare war on Iran and call full nato support) the current build up strategy wont work. There can be faints and movements in air around those bases to increase pressure on Iran and to keep Iran guessing but a pre-emptive stirke seems like a bait in my opinion. If Iran changes mobile asset positions like radars, bm tels continiously then an immediate counter attack would be as powerful as a preemptive attack. Deterrence would still be in place.

Giving up bms would result in an attack soon afterwards and the technical base of missiles-nuclear technology which is the threat against israel would be totally eradicated by killing Iranian scientists etc after an invasion/balkanisation of Iran to ensure that Iran wont turn back to a threat again later. So giving up missile tech to gain riches and work with liberal eu stuff wont work as a solution as long as Iran has a potential to become a threat against israel again.

A mutually assured destruction measure against israel should be put in place to have the deterrant ability to climb the escalation ladder in case of a Usa attack so they wont be able to use nukes on Iran if a usa carrier gets hit or something. Radioactive warheads is one possible solution to be equipped in enough numbers in a very short amount of time. Another is nuclear warhead but it takes time to develop and build them especially in enough numbers. It is a more longer term solution. If no mad concept is there against israel they wont care about Ukraine they will opt for using nukes and allow Russia to use nukes on Ukraine as long as the threat against israel is eliminated. Ukraines population is already halved by migration and war. They dont care about ukranians at all and they wont care when they will be nuked by Russia.
 
ICE may well cause the start of another Civil War in the US before they attack Iran... All it takes is for some National Guard members to defect and side with Democrats against the Republican Administration...if they think Trump is a Tyrant who has violated the US Constitution and Amendments.
 
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We have seen logistical flights also go to Qatar, they are very much helping too.
 
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